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		<title>By: YourTechWorld &#187; A Hidden Cosmic Neighbor: Cool Brown Dwarf Found Lurking Near Our Solar System &#124; 80beats</title>
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		<dc:creator>YourTechWorld &#187; A Hidden Cosmic Neighbor: Cool Brown Dwarf Found Lurking Near Our Solar System &#124; 80beats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Adam Solomon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer some questions that have come up before, a brown dwarf in solar orbit at the hypothesized Nemesis distance wouldn&#039;t need to be QUITE that dim (M ~ 42) to have gone undetected. A couple of years ago a fairly detailed study came out analyzing the limits of the telescopes that would likely have found such an object by now, and all that does is put a mass limit of about 40 Jupiter masses on it, although I&#039;m not quite sure what magnitude that corresponds to at solar age (in all likelihood it would be a T dwarf, I know people who have conducted studies ruling out most likelihoods of finding an L dwarf Nemesis), but I doubt its anywhere near 42 (probably late teens).

The reason we might not have detected Nemesis when we can find all these other brown dwarfs is twofold. First, we&#039;re still nowhere near finding all the T dwarfs that are right in front of our eyes. Brown dwarfs are usually found by combing through data from all-sky surveys, but T dwarfs are very faint and their colors make them look like other objects (galaxies, stars, etc.), so finding them is very much &quot;diving into the muck.&quot; The other problem is that Nemesis, given its proximity and its orbit around the Sun, would be moving so quickly that it could feasibly have avoided detection in the all-sky surveys.

Oh, and try Oh, Be A Fine Girl, Kiss Me Lovingly Tonight :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer some questions that have come up before, a brown dwarf in solar orbit at the hypothesized Nemesis distance wouldn&#8217;t need to be QUITE that dim (M ~ 42) to have gone undetected. A couple of years ago a fairly detailed study came out analyzing the limits of the telescopes that would likely have found such an object by now, and all that does is put a mass limit of about 40 Jupiter masses on it, although I&#8217;m not quite sure what magnitude that corresponds to at solar age (in all likelihood it would be a T dwarf, I know people who have conducted studies ruling out most likelihoods of finding an L dwarf Nemesis), but I doubt its anywhere near 42 (probably late teens).</p>
<p>The reason we might not have detected Nemesis when we can find all these other brown dwarfs is twofold. First, we&#8217;re still nowhere near finding all the T dwarfs that are right in front of our eyes. Brown dwarfs are usually found by combing through data from all-sky surveys, but T dwarfs are very faint and their colors make them look like other objects (galaxies, stars, etc.), so finding them is very much &#8220;diving into the muck.&#8221; The other problem is that Nemesis, given its proximity and its orbit around the Sun, would be moving so quickly that it could feasibly have avoided detection in the all-sky surveys.</p>
<p>Oh, and try Oh, Be A Fine Girl, Kiss Me Lovingly Tonight <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mungascr</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20807</link>
		<dc:creator>Mungascr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That a brown dwarf could have such an influence on the exo-Saturn&#039;s orbit making it eccentric from thatfaraway is indeed pretty amazing.

So much so that it makes me rather skeptical its actually happenening. Granted the brown dwarf is quite massive with a hefty gravitational tug but from my undestanding an object at Pluto&#039;s distance affecting something at Mercury&#039;s so strongly just seems highly unlikely unless its a black hole or neutron star which it clearly ain&#039;t!

Have they ruled out other closer-in planets or possible reasons for the exo-Saturn&#039;s orbit? Are they sure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That a brown dwarf could have such an influence on the exo-Saturn&#8217;s orbit making it eccentric from thatfaraway is indeed pretty amazing.</p>
<p>So much so that it makes me rather skeptical its actually happenening. Granted the brown dwarf is quite massive with a hefty gravitational tug but from my undestanding an object at Pluto&#8217;s distance affecting something at Mercury&#8217;s so strongly just seems highly unlikely unless its a black hole or neutron star which it clearly ain&#8217;t!</p>
<p>Have they ruled out other closer-in planets or possible reasons for the exo-Saturn&#8217;s orbit? Are they sure?</p>
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		<title>By: Mungascr</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20808</link>
		<dc:creator>Mungascr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spectral types  R, N, S are rediant or supergiant ones usuallysyyubsumed under the M category.

There&#039;s also a W class for Wolf-Rayet stars at the opposite end of the spectral class spectrum (try saying that five tuimes quicklyafter drinking afew shots of tequila! ;-) ... )    which is sometimes included as type O.

Maybe the all-encompassing mennonic could be :

Whoa! Oh Be A Fine Girl Kiss Me Right Now - Sex Later Tonight?! ;-)

One point BA - I thought G type stars were 4 % of thestellar population not 10 %?

Got this from a Ken Croswell article on Alpha Centauri in Astronomy magazine (April 1991 issue)  which had a pyramid graphically illustrating the breakdown of star type /numbers as follows :

70 % red dwarfs

10 % white dwarfs

15 % orange dwarfs

4% yellow dwarfs

1 % F class dwarfs &amp; main-sequence white Sirian A type stars


and finally less than 1 % all other star types...


Now this was before the L &amp; T type brown dwarfs were added so its a bit out of date but other than that - is it that wrong? Have we found that many more G-type stars since??  Has that idea been revised? Or did the BA (cough,cough, ahem) get it a trifle wrong? What _are_ the approximate relative percentages?

BA? Anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spectral types  R, N, S are rediant or supergiant ones usuallysyyubsumed under the M category.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a W class for Wolf-Rayet stars at the opposite end of the spectral class spectrum (try saying that five tuimes quicklyafter drinking afew shots of tequila! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230; )    which is sometimes included as type O.</p>
<p>Maybe the all-encompassing mennonic could be :</p>
<p>Whoa! Oh Be A Fine Girl Kiss Me Right Now &#8211; Sex Later Tonight?! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>One point BA &#8211; I thought G type stars were 4 % of thestellar population not 10 %?</p>
<p>Got this from a Ken Croswell article on Alpha Centauri in Astronomy magazine (April 1991 issue)  which had a pyramid graphically illustrating the breakdown of star type /numbers as follows :</p>
<p>70 % red dwarfs</p>
<p>10 % white dwarfs</p>
<p>15 % orange dwarfs</p>
<p>4% yellow dwarfs</p>
<p>1 % F class dwarfs &amp; main-sequence white Sirian A type stars</p>
<p>and finally less than 1 % all other star types&#8230;</p>
<p>Now this was before the L &amp; T type brown dwarfs were added so its a bit out of date but other than that &#8211; is it that wrong? Have we found that many more G-type stars since??  Has that idea been revised? Or did the BA (cough,cough, ahem) get it a trifle wrong? What _are_ the approximate relative percentages?</p>
<p>BA? Anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20806</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 04:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why I&#039;m surprised he didn&#039;t bring it up again.  It seems that the astronomers that discovered it are classifying it absolutely as a brown dwarf, and I&#039;m wondering what was behind that decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m surprised he didn&#8217;t bring it up again.  It seems that the astronomers that discovered it are classifying it absolutely as a brown dwarf, and I&#8217;m wondering what was behind that decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20802</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan, he talked about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2006/09/07/the-upper-limit-to-a-planet/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the upper limit to a planet&lt;/a&gt; a couple of weeks ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan, he talked about <a href="http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2006/09/07/the-upper-limit-to-a-planet/" rel="nofollow">the upper limit to a planet</a> a couple of weeks ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if there is an object with 20 times jupiter&#039;s mass not fusing hydrogen that orbits a star that is fusing hydrogen, and other planets are already in the system.  What defines the object as a brown dwarf, and not as a planet- the distance between the dwarf and the other star?  After all of the Pluto stuff the lower limit for planets is set, but where is the upper mass limit?  I&#039;m surprised you didn&#039;t comment on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if there is an object with 20 times jupiter&#8217;s mass not fusing hydrogen that orbits a star that is fusing hydrogen, and other planets are already in the system.  What defines the object as a brown dwarf, and not as a planet- the distance between the dwarf and the other star?  After all of the Pluto stuff the lower limit for planets is set, but where is the upper mass limit?  I&#8217;m surprised you didn&#8217;t comment on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Siefert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Siefert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Navneeth, :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Navneeth, <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Astronomer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20809</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bad Astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irishman, the pattern of light from stars will be the same due to telescope optics. Basically, any point source will display that pattern (if it&#039;s bright enough).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irishman, the pattern of light from stars will be the same due to telescope optics. Basically, any point source will display that pattern (if it&#8217;s bright enough).</p>
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		<title>By: RAD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20810</link>
		<dc:creator>RAD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its probably the word stellar that you might not find in the porn circles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its probably the word stellar that you might not find in the porn circles</p>
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		<title>By: RAD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought R, N and S came right after M in stellar classification:

O Be A Fine Girl Kiss Me Right Now Sweetie

Where does T fit in?

..... Thanks? right after sweetie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought R, N and S came right after M in stellar classification:</p>
<p>O Be A Fine Girl Kiss Me Right Now Sweetie</p>
<p>Where does T fit in?</p>
<p>&#8230;.. Thanks? right after sweetie</p>
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		<title>By: Evolving Squid</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20813</link>
		<dc:creator>Evolving Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah the magic of google has explained away my dated knowledge.  The internet is wonderful.

And to think, googling &quot;stellar classification&quot; seems to return no porn hits.  That&#039;s amazing in and of itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah the magic of google has explained away my dated knowledge.  The internet is wonderful.</p>
<p>And to think, googling &#8220;stellar classification&#8221; seems to return no porn hits.  That&#8217;s amazing in and of itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Evolving Squid</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20814</link>
		<dc:creator>Evolving Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought R, N and S came right after M in stellar classification:

O Be A Fine Girl Kiss Me Right Now Sweetie

Where does T fit in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought R, N and S came right after M in stellar classification:</p>
<p>O Be A Fine Girl Kiss Me Right Now Sweetie</p>
<p>Where does T fit in?</p>
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		<title>By: Irishman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20812</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>santhosh maruthi, Moose, the three prominent stars do appear to form nearly right triangles, and the placement and size seem similar but rotated.  However, look at the rest of the stars in each pattern and you will see differences.  For instance, the top corner star in the right image has a dimmer companion near it that is not present in the left image.  There is a very bright star in the right image just over the middle that is not present in the left image. There is a cluster of stars in the lower middle of the right image that are not present in the left image.

What is more startling to me is the similarity of the flash pattern of the two major star images.  The hexagonal shaped spikes are likely an effect of diffraction. Nevertheless, the specific pattern of brightness and the shape of the spiking is eerily similar.  Not only the specific hex pattern, but the extra lumpiness at the top left, the contour on the lower right. It looks like you could cut out the bright central core of the right image along those contours and directly overlay them with the ones on the left.  The midrange bright outer ring of spikes also appear similar, with some minor variations in shape that are subtle.

I would be curious to see other star close ups from Spitzer for comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>santhosh maruthi, Moose, the three prominent stars do appear to form nearly right triangles, and the placement and size seem similar but rotated.  However, look at the rest of the stars in each pattern and you will see differences.  For instance, the top corner star in the right image has a dimmer companion near it that is not present in the left image.  There is a very bright star in the right image just over the middle that is not present in the left image. There is a cluster of stars in the lower middle of the right image that are not present in the left image.</p>
<p>What is more startling to me is the similarity of the flash pattern of the two major star images.  The hexagonal shaped spikes are likely an effect of diffraction. Nevertheless, the specific pattern of brightness and the shape of the spiking is eerily similar.  Not only the specific hex pattern, but the extra lumpiness at the top left, the contour on the lower right. It looks like you could cut out the bright central core of the right image along those contours and directly overlay them with the ones on the left.  The midrange bright outer ring of spikes also appear similar, with some minor variations in shape that are subtle.</p>
<p>I would be curious to see other star close ups from Spitzer for comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Brady</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20815</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did an off-the-cuff calculation with some dubious statistics, and it looks like any stellar companion to our Sun would need to have an absolute magnitude of 42 or so for us to have not seen it yet....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did an off-the-cuff calculation with some dubious statistics, and it looks like any stellar companion to our Sun would need to have an absolute magnitude of 42 or so for us to have not seen it yet&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: MaDeR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20816</link>
		<dc:creator>MaDeR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nemezis? Well, orbits of our planets are nearly circullar...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nemezis? Well, orbits of our planets are nearly circullar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kaptain K</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20817</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaptain K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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A solar-type star with a brown dwarf? What about Nemesis?
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If we can find brown dwarfs 35 and 60 light years away, don&#039;t you  think we could find one in our own neighborhood (light days or less)?</description>
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A solar-type star with a brown dwarf? What about Nemesis?<br />
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<p>If we can find brown dwarfs 35 and 60 light years away, don&#8217;t you  think we could find one in our own neighborhood (light days or less)?</p>
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		<title>By: Paolo Amoroso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paolo Amoroso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A solar-type star with a brown dwarf? What about Nemesis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A solar-type star with a brown dwarf? What about Nemesis?</p>
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		<title>By: Navneeth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20821</link>
		<dc:creator>Navneeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh be a fine girl, kiss me later tonight. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh be a fine girl, kiss me later tonight. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Navneeth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20820</link>
		<dc:creator>Navneeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Santosh,
As BA said, take a look at the background stars; and it can be seen, without any actual measurement, that the sides (of the triangle) aren&#039;t really equal. Also, the direction of the black band, which I don&#039;t think is a diffraction spike, is the same in both pictures.

All said and done, healthy skepticism is always good. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Santosh,<br />
As BA said, take a look at the background stars; and it can be seen, without any actual measurement, that the sides (of the triangle) aren&#8217;t really equal. Also, the direction of the black band, which I don&#8217;t think is a diffraction spike, is the same in both pictures.</p>
<p>All said and done, healthy skepticism is always good. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: KingNor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20819</link>
		<dc:creator>KingNor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blake:  might want to change that to Laura or Leela or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blake:  might want to change that to Laura or Leela or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake Stacey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20818</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, the first thing I think of when I read this post was, &quot;How do we extend the old mnemonic for the spectral classes to include L and T?&quot;  You remember, &lt;b&gt;O&lt;/b&gt;h &lt;b&gt;B&lt;/b&gt;e &lt;b&gt;A&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;F&lt;/b&gt;ine &lt;b&gt;G&lt;/b&gt;irl, &lt;b&gt;K&lt;/b&gt;iss &lt;b&gt;M&lt;/b&gt;e. . . . &lt;b&gt;L&lt;/b&gt;olita, &lt;b&gt;T&lt;/b&gt;today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the first thing I think of when I read this post was, &#8220;How do we extend the old mnemonic for the spectral classes to include L and T?&#8221;  You remember, <b>O</b>h <b>B</b>e <b>A</b> <b>F</b>ine <b>G</b>irl, <b>K</b>iss <b>M</b>e. . . . <b>L</b>olita, <b>T</b>today?</p>
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		<title>By: KingNor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20823</link>
		<dc:creator>KingNor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are brown dwarfs dim enough that you could look directly at one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are brown dwarfs dim enough that you could look directly at one?</p>
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		<title>By: Moose</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20797</link>
		<dc:creator>Moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conspiracy fodder? Wha?

Sincere observation: the images really do look rotated to these layperson&#039;s eyes. I&#039;m not finding _any_ other correspondence between the two images to suggest otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conspiracy fodder? Wha?</p>
<p>Sincere observation: the images really do look rotated to these layperson&#8217;s eyes. I&#8217;m not finding _any_ other correspondence between the two images to suggest otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Grand Lunar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/19/brown-dwarf-t-party/comment-page-1/#comment-20798</link>
		<dc:creator>Grand Lunar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nice to see some good science for a change!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to see some good science for a change!</p>
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