Comments on: The next best thing to being there http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/ I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:23:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: KU Students for Science » Art and Science http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-21078 KU Students for Science » Art and Science Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:11:36 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/#comment-21078 [...] Recently, the blogsphere has been murmuring about the artistic side of science. The Bad Astronomer made several posts along these very lines, as well as {mollishka’s title goes here} and me in my blog. I think all of them are worth checking out if you have the time. [...] [...] Recently, the blogsphere has been murmuring about the artistic side of science. The Bad Astronomer made several posts along these very lines, as well as {mollishka’s title goes here} and me in my blog. I think all of them are worth checking out if you have the time. [...]

]]> By: jrkeller http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-21085 jrkeller Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:25:04 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/#comment-21085 For those of you that are interested in high resolution Apollo photos should check out Kipp Teague's Apollo Archieve, http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html Moon Hoaxer Jack White should check this site. For those of you that are interested in high resolution Apollo photos should check out Kipp Teague’s Apollo Archieve,

http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html

Moon Hoaxer Jack White should check this site.

]]> By: gopher65 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-21087 gopher65 Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:11:05 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/#comment-21087 Wow Mike, thanks for taking the time to explain that too us:). Wow Mike, thanks for taking the time to explain that too us:).

]]> By: Rob http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-21088 Rob Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:52:40 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/#comment-21088 Hi Phil Don't apologise for all the recent blogs on great images - keep them coming. It is always fun and stimulating to come across new perspectives and stunning images. Hi Phil

Don’t apologise for all the recent blogs on great images – keep them coming. It is always fun and stimulating to come across new perspectives and stunning images.

]]> By: Mike Constantine http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-21089 Mike Constantine Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:25:51 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/#comment-21089 Hi Tom Thanks for pointing out the red dot! I was worried that it was a mistake I made in the panoramic assembly process. But I just checked the original pan frames, and the dot is on those too. Along with several other dots too. The dots change position from frame to frame, so my guess is that they are just random photographic anomolies in either the development process, or in the duplication of the original transparencies. Or perhaps in the scanning to digital Thanks Mike Constantine Hi Tom

Thanks for pointing out the red dot! I was worried that it was a mistake I made in the panoramic assembly process. But I just checked the original pan frames, and the dot is on those too. Along with several other dots too.

The dots change position from frame to frame, so my guess is that they are just random photographic anomolies in either the development process, or in the duplication of the original transparencies. Or perhaps in the scanning to digital

Thanks
Mike Constantine

]]> By: Mike Constantine http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-21090 Mike Constantine Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:17:17 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/#comment-21090 Hi Tom, thanks for pointing out the red dot. I thought it may have been something I had mistakingly done during the Panoramic assembly process, but I just checked the original pan frame images, and the dot is on those too, and quite a few other dots too. http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/as11-40-5930HR.jpg http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/as11-40-5931HR.jpg As the dots are in different positions as the pan goes along my guess is they are just photographic anomolies, either in the development process, or duplication of the original transparencies or in the scanning of the transparencies to digital. Thanks Mike Constantine http://moonpans.com Hi Tom, thanks for pointing out the red dot. I thought it may have been something I had mistakingly done during the Panoramic assembly process, but I just checked the original pan frame images, and the dot is on those too, and quite a few other dots too.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/as11-40-5930HR.jpg

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/as11-40-5931HR.jpg

As the dots are in different positions as the pan goes along my guess is they are just photographic anomolies, either in the development process, or duplication of the original transparencies or in the scanning of the transparencies to digital.

Thanks
Mike Constantine
http://moonpans.com

]]> By: Tom http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-21091 Tom Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:55:30 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/#comment-21091 Mark: Sure. See where the shadow of the lander almost touches the horizon, on the left? It's above that area, about even horizontally with the middle of the base of the lander. Mark: Sure. See where the shadow of the lander almost touches the horizon, on the left? It’s above that area, about even horizontally with the middle of the base of the lander.

]]> By: JerWah http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-21086 JerWah Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:35:54 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/#comment-21086 Must...Get...Image...of Bad Astronomer...in his skivies...out of my mind....AAAAARGGGGHHHHH........AAAARGGGHHHHH :-) Must…Get…Image…of Bad Astronomer…in his skivies…out of my mind….AAAAARGGGGHHHHH……..AAAARGGGHHHHH
:-)

]]> By: Mark Martin http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-21079 Mark Martin Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:51:05 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/#comment-21079 Tom, could you be more specific as to where you see the red dot? Tom, could you be more specific as to where you see the red dot?

]]> By: mocky_puppet http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-21080 mocky_puppet Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:29:48 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/#comment-21080 there's a "C" on one of the rocks there--fake. there’s a “C” on one of the rocks there–fake.

]]> By: Gary Ansorge http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-21082 Gary Ansorge Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:58:28 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/#comment-21082 Shawn: A trillion dollars isn't necessary to start the job of asteroid reclamation. Just need some imagination, some teleoperated 'bots and about 50 billion dollars dedicated to the development of space resources. As Gerard K. O'Nielle pointed out 30 plus years ago, one of the very best reasons for settling the High Frontier was 24/7 access to solar energy. The development of High Orbit Mini Earths constructed from asteroidal materials was a secondary adjunct to the Power Sats and the power sats were ideal as a means of generating cold, hard cash to facilitate the development of the H.O.M.E.s. The economic potential of our near space environment is so large as to boggle an accountants mind. Even G. Bush would have a hard time spending the tax money that could be generated from this exploitation. Gary 7 Shawn: A trillion dollars isn’t necessary to start the job of asteroid reclamation. Just need some imagination, some teleoperated ‘bots and about 50 billion dollars dedicated to the development of space resources. As Gerard K. O’Nielle pointed out 30 plus years ago, one of the very best reasons for settling the High Frontier was 24/7 access to solar energy. The development of High Orbit Mini Earths constructed from asteroidal materials was a secondary adjunct to the Power Sats and the power sats were ideal as a means of generating cold, hard cash to facilitate the development of the H.O.M.E.s. The economic potential of our near space environment is so large as to boggle an accountants mind. Even G. Bush would have a hard time spending the tax money that could be generated from this exploitation.

Gary 7

]]> By: Tom http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-21081 Tom Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:44:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/#comment-21081 Look at the Apollo 11 EASEP QTVR panorama. Notice the small, red dot in the sky just left of the lunar module? I mailed Phil about it, but if anyone has any speculation, I'd be glad to hear it. I thought it might be the command module in orbit, then I thought Mars because of the red tint. Now that I think about it again, wouldn't Mars be too faint to see? If all the stars are invisible thanks to the exposure setting, would Mars still show up? Look at the Apollo 11 EASEP QTVR panorama. Notice the small, red dot in the sky just left of the lunar module? I mailed Phil about it, but if anyone has any speculation, I’d be glad to hear it. I thought it might be the command module in orbit, then I thought Mars because of the red tint. Now that I think about it again, wouldn’t Mars be too faint to see? If all the stars are invisible thanks to the exposure setting, would Mars still show up?

]]> By: Shawn S. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-21083 Shawn S. Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:39:58 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/#comment-21083 That was like SOOOO 1969, dude... those suits are like SOOOO RETRO, though. Ohmigawd. Maybe that's why. I'm still in awe of the accomplishment when I think about it. It boosts my humanist notions, too. See what we can do when we put effort into something? Of course it also shows what competition can lead to. The Space Race was probably the only reason we were able to do this at all. Next stop... uh... earth? Personally I like Ben Bova's scenario of hitting the asteroid fields for resources. If I had a trillion dollars I'd start up a company that was designed to make that happen. The private sector is probably our best bet for space expansion in the future. That was like SOOOO 1969, dude… those suits are like SOOOO RETRO, though. Ohmigawd.

Maybe that’s why.

I’m still in awe of the accomplishment when I think about it. It boosts my humanist notions, too. See what we can do when we put effort into something? Of course it also shows what competition can lead to. The Space Race was probably the only reason we were able to do this at all.

Next stop… uh… earth? Personally I like Ben Bova’s scenario of hitting the asteroid fields for resources. If I had a trillion dollars I’d start up a company that was designed to make that happen. The private sector is probably our best bet for space expansion in the future.

]]> By: Thomas Siefert http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/comment-page-1/#comment-21084 Thomas Siefert Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:11:38 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/25/the-next-best-thing-to-being-there/#comment-21084 If we could send a man to the moon, why can't we make people realise how fantastic an achievement it was? If we could send a man to the moon, why can’t we make people realise how fantastic an achievement it was?

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