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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Melusine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/10/25/spirit-of-longevity/comment-page-1/#comment-22646</link>
		<dc:creator>Melusine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David Vanderschel

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=spell&amp;resnum=0&amp;ct=result&amp;cd=1&amp;q=3D+glasses&amp;spell=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google is your friend.&lt;/a&gt; The first choice will send you paper ones for free. The nicer ones have a minimum order of 2 @ $7.00 apiece, which isn&#039;t bad. http://www.rainbowsymphony.com/freestuff.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David Vanderschel</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=spell&amp;resnum=0&amp;ct=result&amp;cd=1&amp;q=3D+glasses&amp;spell=1" rel="nofollow">Google is your friend.</a> The first choice will send you paper ones for free. The nicer ones have a minimum order of 2 @ $7.00 apiece, which isn&#8217;t bad. <a href="http://www.rainbowsymphony.com/freestuff.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rainbowsymphony.com/freestuff.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Vanderschel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/10/25/spirit-of-longevity/comment-page-1/#comment-22651</link>
		<dc:creator>David Vanderschel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding glasses for viewing the anaglyph, the BA says, &quot;go get a pair.&quot;  But where can &quot;a pair&quot; be obtained at a reasonable price?  The only sources I have found are for expensive glasses in frames or for quantity orders of the cardboard kind.  The problem with this sort of &#039;product&#039; is that it is so nearly worthless that there is no profit in selling it.  Those owned by most folks who do have some were obtained as free handouts.  I had some once, but I can no longer find them.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding glasses for viewing the anaglyph, the BA says, &#8220;go get a pair.&#8221;  But where can &#8220;a pair&#8221; be obtained at a reasonable price?  The only sources I have found are for expensive glasses in frames or for quantity orders of the cardboard kind.  The problem with this sort of &#8216;product&#8217; is that it is so nearly worthless that there is no profit in selling it.  Those owned by most folks who do have some were obtained as free handouts.  I had some once, but I can no longer find them.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark Martin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/10/25/spirit-of-longevity/comment-page-1/#comment-22647</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed Minchau Says:

â€œThis would be the same calibration that turned the Stars and Stripes on Viking purple and orange?â€

It was when a technician noticed the off-coloring of the flag that everyone realised that correction was necessary. I remember that very vividly.

But letâ€™s say, hypothetically, that in some inexplicable way, calibrating to the flag throws the color-balance way off for images of the calibration stripe. Similarly, adjusting to the stripe throws the flagâ€™s colors way off. Which one do you go with? You canâ€™t go with both, since theyâ€™re inconsistent with each other. It can at least be said that the calibration stripe was designed explicitly for the purpose of color-correcting images. The pigments in the flag were probably chosen on a much more casual basis than those in the calibration stripe. Iâ€™d rather go with the stripe than the flag.

â€œThe sky should be blue on Mars for the same reason that the sky is blue on Earth - Rayleigh scattering of the same light source. The chemical composition of the sky should not matter unless there is a gas with an intrinsic color present.â€

Rayleigh scattering is dependent upon several variables. Sunlight isnâ€™t the sole player. Similarly, Rayleigh scattering per se isnâ€™t the sole mode by which light is scattered. Rayleigh scattering is dominant for wavelengths at least an order of magnitude larger than the particles in the scattering medium. For particles larger than that, the dominant mechanism is Mie scattering. On top of that, thereâ€™s a mode called Raman scattering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed Minchau Says:</p>
<p>â€œThis would be the same calibration that turned the Stars and Stripes on Viking purple and orange?â€</p>
<p>It was when a technician noticed the off-coloring of the flag that everyone realised that correction was necessary. I remember that very vividly.</p>
<p>But letâ€™s say, hypothetically, that in some inexplicable way, calibrating to the flag throws the color-balance way off for images of the calibration stripe. Similarly, adjusting to the stripe throws the flagâ€™s colors way off. Which one do you go with? You canâ€™t go with both, since theyâ€™re inconsistent with each other. It can at least be said that the calibration stripe was designed explicitly for the purpose of color-correcting images. The pigments in the flag were probably chosen on a much more casual basis than those in the calibration stripe. Iâ€™d rather go with the stripe than the flag.</p>
<p>â€œThe sky should be blue on Mars for the same reason that the sky is blue on Earth &#8211; Rayleigh scattering of the same light source. The chemical composition of the sky should not matter unless there is a gas with an intrinsic color present.â€</p>
<p>Rayleigh scattering is dependent upon several variables. Sunlight isnâ€™t the sole player. Similarly, Rayleigh scattering per se isnâ€™t the sole mode by which light is scattered. Rayleigh scattering is dominant for wavelengths at least an order of magnitude larger than the particles in the scattering medium. For particles larger than that, the dominant mechanism is Mie scattering. On top of that, thereâ€™s a mode called Raman scattering.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/10/25/spirit-of-longevity/comment-page-1/#comment-22648</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martian Colors.
http://www.donaldedavis.com/PARTS/MARSCLRS.html
Quoting from the second page:
&quot;The blue seen here is probably more camera induced than real. On Mars the &#039;Raleigh scattering&#039; which colors our sky blue is greatly diminished by the low atmospheric pressure&quot;

More:
What Color is Mars?
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/hoagland/mars_colors.html

What Color is the Martian Sky?
http://webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/14C.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martian Colors.<br />
<a href="http://www.donaldedavis.com/PARTS/MARSCLRS.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.donaldedavis.com/PARTS/MARSCLRS.html</a><br />
Quoting from the second page:<br />
&#8220;The blue seen here is probably more camera induced than real. On Mars the &#8216;Raleigh scattering&#8217; which colors our sky blue is greatly diminished by the low atmospheric pressure&#8221;</p>
<p>More:<br />
What Color is Mars?<br />
<a href="http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/hoagland/mars_colors.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/hoagland/mars_colors.html</a></p>
<p>What Color is the Martian Sky?<br />
<a href="http://webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/14C.html" rel="nofollow">http://webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/14C.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ed Minchau</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/10/25/spirit-of-longevity/comment-page-1/#comment-22649</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Minchau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Upon calibration, the sky turned pink.&quot;

This would be the same calibration that turned the Stars and Stripes on Viking purple and orange?

&quot;But even if you didnâ€™t know this, why would you expect the sky to be the same color as on Earth? Marsâ€™ atmosphere has been known for decades to have a lower pressure, and different abundances of gases.&quot;

The sky should be blue on Mars for the same reason that the sky is blue on Earth - Rayleigh scattering of the same light source.  The chemical composition of the sky should not matter unless there is a gas with an intrinsic color present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Upon calibration, the sky turned pink.&#8221;</p>
<p>This would be the same calibration that turned the Stars and Stripes on Viking purple and orange?</p>
<p>&#8220;But even if you didnâ€™t know this, why would you expect the sky to be the same color as on Earth? Marsâ€™ atmosphere has been known for decades to have a lower pressure, and different abundances of gases.&#8221;</p>
<p>The sky should be blue on Mars for the same reason that the sky is blue on Earth &#8211; Rayleigh scattering of the same light source.  The chemical composition of the sky should not matter unless there is a gas with an intrinsic color present.</p>
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		<title>By: Melusine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/10/25/spirit-of-longevity/comment-page-1/#comment-22650</link>
		<dc:creator>Melusine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, my post from early this morning got eaten by the spam filter...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Shawn S. Says:
Iâ€™m an atheist and photos like these and my studies of microorganisms give me that great feeling that some people describe as spiritual. I love feeling that wonder and awe at the universe that photos like these evoke. It makes me happy to exist.  Thanks for the post, Phil. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I feel the same way, though I don&#039;t know that it&#039;s because I&#039;m an atheist. I look at these photos and see landscapes and rocks that look familiar to our own world yet are millions of miles away. It just drives home to me how connected everything in the universe is - and we made something that&#039;s cruising around on another planet! (Perhaps that solidifies my worldview, after all.)

I love looking at the &quot;Slide Show: Road Trip&quot; pictures on the NASA page (middle right sidebar). Close-ups of rocks, how awesome. Somebody said to me, &quot;Why are we studying rocks on another planet...we could spend the money...&quot; blah, blah. I replied that we&#039;re trying to figure out where the rocks in his head came from. Really, I can&#039;t understand how people fail to feel excited looking at these photos - doesn&#039;t it at least fuel their imagination?

Side note: I can&#039;t wait to see the results of the STEREO mission. Looking at solar storms in 3-D...woo-hoo! I gotta get me some glasses. (-8~

Links:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/stereo/main/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, my post from early this morning got eaten by the spam filter&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Shawn S. Says:<br />
Iâ€™m an atheist and photos like these and my studies of microorganisms give me that great feeling that some people describe as spiritual. I love feeling that wonder and awe at the universe that photos like these evoke. It makes me happy to exist.  Thanks for the post, Phil. </p></blockquote>
<p>I feel the same way, though I don&#8217;t know that it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m an atheist. I look at these photos and see landscapes and rocks that look familiar to our own world yet are millions of miles away. It just drives home to me how connected everything in the universe is &#8211; and we made something that&#8217;s cruising around on another planet! (Perhaps that solidifies my worldview, after all.)</p>
<p>I love looking at the &#8220;Slide Show: Road Trip&#8221; pictures on the NASA page (middle right sidebar). Close-ups of rocks, how awesome. Somebody said to me, &#8220;Why are we studying rocks on another planet&#8230;we could spend the money&#8230;&#8221; blah, blah. I replied that we&#8217;re trying to figure out where the rocks in his head came from. Really, I can&#8217;t understand how people fail to feel excited looking at these photos &#8211; doesn&#8217;t it at least fuel their imagination?</p>
<p>Side note: I can&#8217;t wait to see the results of the STEREO mission. Looking at solar storms in 3-D&#8230;woo-hoo! I gotta get me some glasses. (-8~</p>
<p>Links:<br />
<a href="http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer" rel="nofollow">http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer</a><br />
<a href="http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/stereo/main/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/stereo/main/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: A Ler&#8230;-- Rastos de Luz</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Ler&#8230;-- Rastos de Luz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Spirit of Longevity&#8220;, no Bad Astronomy. Os 1000 dias marcianos do MER Spirit. TambÃ©m sobre o mesmo tema, &#8220;1.000 Sols&#8220;, no Tom&#8217;s Astronomy Blog; &#8220;Transit of Mercury&#8220;, no Astroprof&#8217;s Page. Ainda o trÃ¢nsito de MercÃºrio no dia 8 de Novembro, que nÃ£o serÃ¡ visÃ­vel em Portugal; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Spirit of Longevity&#8220;, no Bad Astronomy. Os 1000 dias marcianos do MER Spirit. TambÃ©m sobre o mesmo tema, &#8220;1.000 Sols&#8220;, no Tom&#8217;s Astronomy Blog; &#8220;Transit of Mercury&#8220;, no Astroprof&#8217;s Page. Ainda o trÃ¢nsito de MercÃºrio no dia 8 de Novembro, que nÃ£o serÃ¡ visÃ­vel em Portugal; [...]</p>
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