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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: xXEmoXx</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this was really interesting. I&#039;m not much for science, but seeing all the pictures and understanding what i was looking at, and what could be found in the picture was pretty cool! :D [&lt;3]!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this was really interesting. I&#8217;m not much for science, but seeing all the pictures and understanding what i was looking at, and what could be found in the picture was pretty cool! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  [&lt;3]!</p>
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		<title>By: Three Sigma Result &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Another Great Astronomy Pic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Three Sigma Result &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Another Great Astronomy Pic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 14:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a much fuller and more literate explanation of the whole thing check out the badastronomer blog here.   Leave a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: igu</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Astronomy for JJ! &#171; Cocking A Snook!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astronomy for JJ! &#171; Cocking A Snook!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The power of story &#8212; on a really big stage.   Plowing through the electromagnetic spectrum [...]</description>
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		<title>By: solomon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/11/08/plowing-through-the-electromagnetic-spectrum/comment-page-2/#comment-23501</link>
		<dc:creator>solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bad Astronomer said &quot;sychotron radiation&quot;

I looked that up and the closest I got was synchrotron radiation.

Synchrotron radiation gives me a point to start looking for science that&#039;s been done to answer questions like mine about where all that radiation comes from and why, while keeping some distance from the fringe stuff that blames it all on legendary lightning bolts of Thor that Velikovsky reinterpreted some old legends as being about, or blames it on artists&#039; conceptions of &quot;black holes&quot; and their spirals and jets without having any explanation of how they work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bad Astronomer said &#8220;sychotron radiation&#8221;</p>
<p>I looked that up and the closest I got was synchrotron radiation.</p>
<p>Synchrotron radiation gives me a point to start looking for science that&#8217;s been done to answer questions like mine about where all that radiation comes from and why, while keeping some distance from the fringe stuff that blames it all on legendary lightning bolts of Thor that Velikovsky reinterpreted some old legends as being about, or blames it on artists&#8217; conceptions of &#8220;black holes&#8221; and their spirals and jets without having any explanation of how they work.</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/11/08/plowing-through-the-electromagnetic-spectrum/comment-page-2/#comment-23500</link>
		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MoeHammered: Did you mean that red image with the prominent nose in profile in the lower section, and the hint of a shock of red hair at the top, and the left eyebrow in the center of the image? And with Phil looking towards the East / right side of the screen?

No, can&#039;t say I did.

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MoeHammered: Did you mean that red image with the prominent nose in profile in the lower section, and the hint of a shock of red hair at the top, and the left eyebrow in the center of the image? And with Phil looking towards the East / right side of the screen?</p>
<p>No, can&#8217;t say I did.</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: MoeHammered</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoeHammered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 02:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pareidolia Alert:
Did anybody else notice that the radio wave image looks a bit like BA Phil poking his head around a corner?  The top half, especially.

This blog is one of my faves, and this post is another reason why.

Thanks, Phil!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pareidolia Alert:<br />
Did anybody else notice that the radio wave image looks a bit like BA Phil poking his head around a corner?  The top half, especially.</p>
<p>This blog is one of my faves, and this post is another reason why.</p>
<p>Thanks, Phil!</p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Astronomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bad Astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 02:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy Doody, your initial assumption isn&#039;t correct. Radio waves can be emitted in many different ways, as can X-rays. Kinetic energy is just one way, but there is also sychotron radiation. The jets from black holes have a &lt;i&gt;vast&lt;/i&gt; amount of kinetic energy; they are travelling at very nearly the speed of light when they leave the center of the cluster. They do slow down, but the emission of the radio waves isn&#039;t tied to their temperature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy Doody, your initial assumption isn&#8217;t correct. Radio waves can be emitted in many different ways, as can X-rays. Kinetic energy is just one way, but there is also sychotron radiation. The jets from black holes have a <i>vast</i> amount of kinetic energy; they are travelling at very nearly the speed of light when they leave the center of the cluster. They do slow down, but the emission of the radio waves isn&#8217;t tied to their temperature.</p>
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		<title>By: Howdy Doody</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/11/08/plowing-through-the-electromagnetic-spectrum/comment-page-2/#comment-23498</link>
		<dc:creator>Howdy Doody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome images, but I&#039;m not buying all of the explanation. Radio emission implies relatively low kinetic energy, x-ray emission  implies extremely high kinetic energy. The idea that a relatively low velocity stream of ions could push an extremely hot cloud of gas out of the way and clear out a volume of billions of cubic light years is preposterous. I would rather think that some explosive event such as the collision of ultramassive black holes ejected the hot gas in a asymmetrical way. The hot plasma is probably opaque to radio waves, and where there is little of the gas the radio waves can shine through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome images, but I&#8217;m not buying all of the explanation. Radio emission implies relatively low kinetic energy, x-ray emission  implies extremely high kinetic energy. The idea that a relatively low velocity stream of ions could push an extremely hot cloud of gas out of the way and clear out a volume of billions of cubic light years is preposterous. I would rather think that some explosive event such as the collision of ultramassive black holes ejected the hot gas in a asymmetrical way. The hot plasma is probably opaque to radio waves, and where there is little of the gas the radio waves can shine through.</p>
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		<title>By: Skepticality and BA &#171; My View</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skepticality and BA &#171; My View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 16:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Another of my favorite people is Phil Plait from Bad Astronomy.com.Â  Phil has a particularly wondrous post about what you can see in space from different points of view along the electromagnetic spectrum.Â  Well worth a read. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Another of my favorite people is Phil Plait from Bad Astronomy.com.Â  Phil has a particularly wondrous post about what you can see in space from different points of view along the electromagnetic spectrum.Â  Well worth a read. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
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		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops&#039;, just noticed... 2nd line.. &quot;... or its states.&quot;, I should have written.

It&#039;s not what came out, and I completely missed it. I&#039;ll have to watch that in future.

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops&#8217;, just noticed&#8230; 2nd line.. &#8220;&#8230; or its states.&#8221;, I should have written.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not what came out, and I completely missed it. I&#8217;ll have to watch that in future.</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
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		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 04:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info Gary. Boy you never know until you ask. I wonder if all the seemingly contradictory properties of hydrogen, or it&#039;s states relative to pressure, temperature and other influences, still have to be determined. And who knows what may turn up in the on-going study in the future.

Undoubtedly with so much still to discover, why are we wasting time, energy and people fighting wars? Or even trying to find more horrific ways to bring down an enemy? And don&#039;t anybody bring out the old chestnuts about pennicillin, or teflon, or even dynamite. Nothing can justify war as a bringer of goodness.

Enough of the rant, but any good persuasion to encourage kids and college students to follow the never-ending idea of &quot;Why is it so?&quot;, (with apologies to the late Prof. Julius Sumner Miller, who used that phrase to great effect here on Australian TV a couple of decades ago.) Well I certainly remembered him, but not only for the phrase. I guess many budding young scientists, now working in their chosen fields, do also. For me, it was too late, but I can still learn and be amazed.

Ivan. ( B.Zero, Uni. of Hard Knocks.) (Heck, I&#039;m not even a batchelor anymore - I&#039;m married!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info Gary. Boy you never know until you ask. I wonder if all the seemingly contradictory properties of hydrogen, or it&#8217;s states relative to pressure, temperature and other influences, still have to be determined. And who knows what may turn up in the on-going study in the future.</p>
<p>Undoubtedly with so much still to discover, why are we wasting time, energy and people fighting wars? Or even trying to find more horrific ways to bring down an enemy? And don&#8217;t anybody bring out the old chestnuts about pennicillin, or teflon, or even dynamite. Nothing can justify war as a bringer of goodness.</p>
<p>Enough of the rant, but any good persuasion to encourage kids and college students to follow the never-ending idea of &#8220;Why is it so?&#8221;, (with apologies to the late Prof. Julius Sumner Miller, who used that phrase to great effect here on Australian TV a couple of decades ago.) Well I certainly remembered him, but not only for the phrase. I guess many budding young scientists, now working in their chosen fields, do also. For me, it was too late, but I can still learn and be amazed.</p>
<p>Ivan. ( B.Zero, Uni. of Hard Knocks.) (Heck, I&#8217;m not even a batchelor anymore &#8211; I&#8217;m married!)</p>
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		<title>By: solomon</title>
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		<dc:creator>solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 04:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What made that nebula emit x-rays at a roughly similar temperature or intensity over its millions of light years of extent? If it&#039;s the temperature of the gas, why didn&#039;t it just cool down within a few years of being ejected, being exposed to the cold of intergalactic space? Why does the nebula look so much like a close-up of a supernova remnant? What makes those jets emit radio waves? How would matter spiraling into a black hole cause it to eject matter? Why would ejected matter be focused into beams or jets?

I&#039;m wondering if the way astronomy is discussed is about popularizing support for it without explaining what&#039;s really known, because that would be over the average person&#039;s head, or if the way it&#039;s discussed is about guiding funding by emphasizing the words that influence supporters, such as &quot;black hole,&quot; and that&#039;s why practically nothing is publicly explained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What made that nebula emit x-rays at a roughly similar temperature or intensity over its millions of light years of extent? If it&#8217;s the temperature of the gas, why didn&#8217;t it just cool down within a few years of being ejected, being exposed to the cold of intergalactic space? Why does the nebula look so much like a close-up of a supernova remnant? What makes those jets emit radio waves? How would matter spiraling into a black hole cause it to eject matter? Why would ejected matter be focused into beams or jets?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if the way astronomy is discussed is about popularizing support for it without explaining what&#8217;s really known, because that would be over the average person&#8217;s head, or if the way it&#8217;s discussed is about guiding funding by emphasizing the words that influence supporters, such as &#8220;black hole,&#8221; and that&#8217;s why practically nothing is publicly explained.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved the idea used in &#039;Raft&#039; by Stephen Baxter; of a super-high gravitational-constant universe, where humans live in an oxygen nebula.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the idea used in &#8216;Raft&#8217; by Stephen Baxter; of a super-high gravitational-constant universe, where humans live in an oxygen nebula.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 22:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Icemith:
Metalic hydrogen: Lighter than water, transperant, possibly a superconductor at room temp(strictly theoretical). We have made solid hydrogen in the lab, but metalic hydrogen likely only exists really deep on Jupiter, where the temp/pressure allows its formation. It is suggested by theoretical models it COULD remain metalic at normal temp/pressure, but until we can attain such humongous pressures in the lab, we won&#039;t know for sure,,,

Gary 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Icemith:<br />
Metalic hydrogen: Lighter than water, transperant, possibly a superconductor at room temp(strictly theoretical). We have made solid hydrogen in the lab, but metalic hydrogen likely only exists really deep on Jupiter, where the temp/pressure allows its formation. It is suggested by theoretical models it COULD remain metalic at normal temp/pressure, but until we can attain such humongous pressures in the lab, we won&#8217;t know for sure,,,</p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
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		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, thanks James, it was as I really expected, but I cease to be surprised nowdays, as the opposite can also be true. Nowhere was there a clue to the actual density mentioned but being so far away, and so huge, and being heated by such a monstrous &#039;furnace&quot;, it is mind boggling just the same.

I actually view space as &quot;without heat of any kind&quot;, ie at zero degrees absolute, and in fact &quot;without cold of any kind&quot;, if you get what I mean. It is only the &quot;solid&quot; object in space, ie the element hydrogen or whatever, that is agitated, thereby raising the temperature a mite or two. When that element has been heated for a long time, along with all the others so effected, I guess it is really raised in energy levels to a point where it re-radiates some of that energy and we see it as a glow, albeit in the microwave region, in this case, and in other parts of the EM spectrum across the whole gamut in all galaxies otherwise.

But I did wonder if that density was high enough to constitute an ultra-light solid, in effect. That would mean it would be very very hot. It would mean that there would be Mass, lots of it. Maybe even account for some of the &quot;missing&quot; mass of the universe?

Hey, what does metalic hydrogen look like? There must be some point where it does exist. Maybe not for long as it heats up, but there must be a temperature differential as one moves around so to speak. Are there cooler areas in Space behind other objects, such as in shadows? Being cooler, they would be more condensed, thereby having a slightly higher mass per given volume, and also a higher gravity. Or am I off beam with that one?

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, thanks James, it was as I really expected, but I cease to be surprised nowdays, as the opposite can also be true. Nowhere was there a clue to the actual density mentioned but being so far away, and so huge, and being heated by such a monstrous &#8216;furnace&#8221;, it is mind boggling just the same.</p>
<p>I actually view space as &#8220;without heat of any kind&#8221;, ie at zero degrees absolute, and in fact &#8220;without cold of any kind&#8221;, if you get what I mean. It is only the &#8220;solid&#8221; object in space, ie the element hydrogen or whatever, that is agitated, thereby raising the temperature a mite or two. When that element has been heated for a long time, along with all the others so effected, I guess it is really raised in energy levels to a point where it re-radiates some of that energy and we see it as a glow, albeit in the microwave region, in this case, and in other parts of the EM spectrum across the whole gamut in all galaxies otherwise.</p>
<p>But I did wonder if that density was high enough to constitute an ultra-light solid, in effect. That would mean it would be very very hot. It would mean that there would be Mass, lots of it. Maybe even account for some of the &#8220;missing&#8221; mass of the universe?</p>
<p>Hey, what does metalic hydrogen look like? There must be some point where it does exist. Maybe not for long as it heats up, but there must be a temperature differential as one moves around so to speak. Are there cooler areas in Space behind other objects, such as in shadows? Being cooler, they would be more condensed, thereby having a slightly higher mass per given volume, and also a higher gravity. Or am I off beam with that one?</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Icemith:
Saying millions of degrees &#039;hot&#039; is sloppy phrasing on their part. What they mean is that the molecules are radiating a lot of energy ( heat ) and the molecules are in a high energy state. However the gases are so spread out that their will only be one molecule every few cubic metres, unlike down here where there are 10(exp n). Imagine the sparks from a grinder or welder; each one will glow white hot, but you can pass your hand through a stream of them and they don&#039;t hurt because their individual energy content is so small.

If you were to gather that gas together at sea level density it would be very hot indeed; it would shine like the sun.

space is very cold, very large, but has the very occassional very small very hot thing. :-)

(please tell me that all made sense!! I just came of a 16 hour shift and should be nowhere near the memespace!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Icemith:<br />
Saying millions of degrees &#8216;hot&#8217; is sloppy phrasing on their part. What they mean is that the molecules are radiating a lot of energy ( heat ) and the molecules are in a high energy state. However the gases are so spread out that their will only be one molecule every few cubic metres, unlike down here where there are 10(exp n). Imagine the sparks from a grinder or welder; each one will glow white hot, but you can pass your hand through a stream of them and they don&#8217;t hurt because their individual energy content is so small.</p>
<p>If you were to gather that gas together at sea level density it would be very hot indeed; it would shine like the sun.</p>
<p>space is very cold, very large, but has the very occassional very small very hot thing. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(please tell me that all made sense!! I just came of a 16 hour shift and should be nowhere near the memespace!)</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Phil for another very interesting post. Just love seeing things in a &quot;Different Light&quot;. And thanks Cindy (at 6.30 pm), for the link to Columbia Edu. for the little QuickTime movie, which I have subsequently re-distributed. Hey, these things should be on YouTube and/or Google videos, educating the masses.

Another thing though, in the Chandra X-Ray image and complementary discription, there is mention of the surrounding interstellar gas being many millions of degrees HOT. (You thought I was going to ask if it was degrees F or C didn&#039;t you. Dur, I&#039;m not even going to mention that. Hot is hot!)

Does this mean that the mean temperature of space in that (huge) vicinity is similar to the center of the Sun, or only the relatively sparse gas molecules or elements in that cloud the only things that could be heated by that radiation from the nearby (?) stars? I mean could we as space travellers actually venture there, and for the time being, not heat up and melt and eventually vaporise?

So, any estimate as to the average density of elements in that area, and how would it compare with our neck of the woods?

Ivan.</description>
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<p>Another thing though, in the Chandra X-Ray image and complementary discription, there is mention of the surrounding interstellar gas being many millions of degrees HOT. (You thought I was going to ask if it was degrees F or C didn&#8217;t you. Dur, I&#8217;m not even going to mention that. Hot is hot!)</p>
<p>Does this mean that the mean temperature of space in that (huge) vicinity is similar to the center of the Sun, or only the relatively sparse gas molecules or elements in that cloud the only things that could be heated by that radiation from the nearby (?) stars? I mean could we as space travellers actually venture there, and for the time being, not heat up and melt and eventually vaporise?</p>
<p>So, any estimate as to the average density of elements in that area, and how would it compare with our neck of the woods?</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mungascr: No, I&#039;m not familiar with Friday. I&#039;ll look it up.

Thanks,

GAry 7</description>
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<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>GAry 7</p>
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		<title>By: Mungascr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mungascr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I see our little index regeix whatever-y code gremilin is still plaguing us ... Its still backspace and refresh. ;)

I also see my typos are as bad as ever. That&#039;s Robert A. Heinlein&#039;s novel &#039;Friday&#039; (New English Library, 1982) of course with the red-haired heroine on the cover sitting on a hovercar with a backdrop of burning city.
Asa big SF buff Iread alot of novels and that one still has about the best openings  I&#039;ve ever read -&#039;nuff said.

Dunno if any authors named Gheinelin exist .. if so haven&#039;t read them ;)

Apologies for those typos  - stuffing up names is always embarassing. (Sigh)</description>
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<p>I also see my typos are as bad as ever. That&#8217;s Robert A. Heinlein&#8217;s novel &#8216;Friday&#8217; (New English Library, 1982) of course with the red-haired heroine on the cover sitting on a hovercar with a backdrop of burning city.<br />
Asa big SF buff Iread alot of novels and that one still has about the best openings  I&#8217;ve ever read -&#8217;nuff said.</p>
<p>Dunno if any authors named Gheinelin exist .. if so haven&#8217;t read them <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Apologies for those typos  &#8211; stuffing up names is always embarassing. (Sigh)</p>
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		<title>By: Mungascr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mungascr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that BA. Awe inspiring.

Lorne Ipsum - if you&#039;re reading this - try NOT to lookat the Sun too much!
;-)  It&#039;ll send you blind -and that&#039;s for real - just ask a certain Galileo Galilei.

Gary Ansorge : If you&#039;re reading this have you read GHeinelin&#039;s novel &#039;Friday&#039;? That&#039;s my fave - gripping from the start witha very sexy heroine and a nice little interstellar voyage at the end - witty, amusing, highly readable. If you haven&#039;t already readit it, I&#039;d certainly recommend it ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that BA. Awe inspiring.</p>
<p>Lorne Ipsum &#8211; if you&#8217;re reading this &#8211; try NOT to lookat the Sun too much! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   It&#8217;ll send you blind -and that&#8217;s for real &#8211; just ask a certain Galileo Galilei.</p>
<p>Gary Ansorge : If you&#8217;re reading this have you read GHeinelin&#8217;s novel &#8216;Friday&#8217;? That&#8217;s my fave &#8211; gripping from the start witha very sexy heroine and a nice little interstellar voyage at the end &#8211; witty, amusing, highly readable. If you haven&#8217;t already readit it, I&#8217;d certainly recommend it ..</p>
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		<title>By: Myzery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myzery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, simply amazing. Thank you BA.</description>
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		<title>By: csrster</title>
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		<dc:creator>csrster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing that would be cool would be to map the mass distribution of the cluster with microlensing. Dark matter, is too weakly interacting to be entrained by the jets (right?) so the distribution of mass will not show any holes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing that would be cool would be to map the mass distribution of the cluster with microlensing. Dark matter, is too weakly interacting to be entrained by the jets (right?) so the distribution of mass will not show any holes.</p>
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		<title>By: AitchJay</title>
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		<dc:creator>AitchJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great post, one of the main reasons I keep listening - there&#039;s wonderful worlds out there.. Thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: silence</title>
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		<dc:creator>silence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 04:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the image, the jets appear to have a sharp bend in them.

Why is this?</description>
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<p>Why is this?</p>
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