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	<title>Comments on: Dune Mars</title>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-387102</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 09:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the star “Dune” orbited was Arrakis which is the old Arabic name for Nu Draconis&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Actually make that &lt;b&gt;Mu&lt;/b&gt; Draconis instead, sorry. Click on my name for a link to more info. via Kaler&#039;s Stars website. 

@ 42. ABR : &lt;i&gt;&quot;You may want to pull out your copy of Dune. The names “Dune” and “Arrakis” are synonymous and refer to the third planet of Canopus.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m always happy to re-read that book &amp;, yeah, that sounds like a good excuse to do so &amp; check. Very belated but sincere thanks. :-) 

If  so, however, that is somewhat of a pity though because Canopus is a most unsuitable candidate star for habitable planets - a short-lived white giant that would fry its worlds then go supernova before life can arise, perhaps before planets could even properly form. Arrakis (Mu Draconis), OTOH, is a more likely Real Life possibility, an F7 V main-sequence binary with a possible distant red dwarf member as well. Hotter and more luminous than our Sun but still relatively long-lived enough and the binary is distant enough for exoplanets to orbit stablely around either star too.

NB. I used to post here as &#039;Stevo&#039; years ago before I finally settled on my current moniker.</description>
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<p>Actually make that <b>Mu</b> Draconis instead, sorry. Click on my name for a link to more info. via Kaler&#8217;s Stars website. </p>
<p>@ 42. ABR : <i>&#8220;You may want to pull out your copy of Dune. The names “Dune” and “Arrakis” are synonymous and refer to the third planet of Canopus.&#8221; </i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m always happy to re-read that book &amp;, yeah, that sounds like a good excuse to do so &amp; check. Very belated but sincere thanks. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>If  so, however, that is somewhat of a pity though because Canopus is a most unsuitable candidate star for habitable planets &#8211; a short-lived white giant that would fry its worlds then go supernova before life can arise, perhaps before planets could even properly form. Arrakis (Mu Draconis), OTOH, is a more likely Real Life possibility, an F7 V main-sequence binary with a possible distant red dwarf member as well. Hotter and more luminous than our Sun but still relatively long-lived enough and the binary is distant enough for exoplanets to orbit stablely around either star too.</p>
<p>NB. I used to post here as &#8216;Stevo&#8217; years ago before I finally settled on my current moniker.</p>
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		<title>By: ABR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25100</link>
		<dc:creator>ABR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stevo,

You may want to pull out your copy of Dune. The names &quot;Dune&quot; and &quot;Arrakis&quot; are synonymous and refer to the third planet of Canopus.

On another note, I live in envy of you and all Southern Hemisphere citizens -- I&#039;ve never seen the Southern Cross or the Magellanic Clouds!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stevo,</p>
<p>You may want to pull out your copy of Dune. The names &#8220;Dune&#8221; and &#8220;Arrakis&#8221; are synonymous and refer to the third planet of Canopus.</p>
<p>On another note, I live in envy of you and all Southern Hemisphere citizens &#8212; I&#8217;ve never seen the Southern Cross or the Magellanic Clouds!</p>
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		<title>By: Stevo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25099</link>
		<dc:creator>Stevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 03:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of the Mundrabilla meteorite they&#039;ve got in the entrance lobby to the South Australian museum. Similar texture that looks all fluid. Every time I visit there I touch it just to have tactile contact with an object that orbited our Sun independently for aeons before falling through our atmosphere, glowing red-hot, the edges sizzling and becoming molten from the re-entry heat. It blows me away every time. :-)

&#039;Seitch&#039; I think meant village as much as cavern in &#039;Dune&#039; - tehfRemen were descendents froma ZenSunni (or was it Zen Sufi) diaspora which I take it means some sort of confluence / symbiosis of  &quot;Zen&quot; (buddhist philosophy) and &quot;Sunni&quot; the mainstream version of Islam. An interesting fusion of religions.  A lot of the terms used by &quot;Fremen&quot; (ie. &#039;Free men&#039;) were adopted I think from Arabic which make sense considering the environment. ;-)

Oh, &amp; the star &quot;Dune&quot; orbited was Arrakis which is the old Arabic name for Nu Draconis, visible to you Northern hemisphere-ers as a circumpolar star (spectral type A I think ie like Sirius, Vega and Altair) near the north celstial pole (UrsaMinor -lil&#039; dipper &amp; polaris) Which means, of course, that here in Adelaide, South Oz, I can&#039;t see it. Still I&#039;d take having the Southern Cross, Magellanic Clouds, the two best globular clusters and Eta Carinae
in my skies over Draco, Polaris and the two Bears (Ursa&#039;s major &amp; minor) anyday!

Hope that&#039;s interesting / amusing  /enlightening / fun for y&#039;all..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of the Mundrabilla meteorite they&#8217;ve got in the entrance lobby to the South Australian museum. Similar texture that looks all fluid. Every time I visit there I touch it just to have tactile contact with an object that orbited our Sun independently for aeons before falling through our atmosphere, glowing red-hot, the edges sizzling and becoming molten from the re-entry heat. It blows me away every time. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8216;Seitch&#8217; I think meant village as much as cavern in &#8216;Dune&#8217; &#8211; tehfRemen were descendents froma ZenSunni (or was it Zen Sufi) diaspora which I take it means some sort of confluence / symbiosis of  &#8220;Zen&#8221; (buddhist philosophy) and &#8220;Sunni&#8221; the mainstream version of Islam. An interesting fusion of religions.  A lot of the terms used by &#8220;Fremen&#8221; (ie. &#8216;Free men&#8217;) were adopted I think from Arabic which make sense considering the environment. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh, &amp; the star &#8220;Dune&#8221; orbited was Arrakis which is the old Arabic name for Nu Draconis, visible to you Northern hemisphere-ers as a circumpolar star (spectral type A I think ie like Sirius, Vega and Altair) near the north celstial pole (UrsaMinor -lil&#8217; dipper &amp; polaris) Which means, of course, that here in Adelaide, South Oz, I can&#8217;t see it. Still I&#8217;d take having the Southern Cross, Magellanic Clouds, the two best globular clusters and Eta Carinae<br />
in my skies over Draco, Polaris and the two Bears (Ursa&#8217;s major &amp; minor) anyday!</p>
<p>Hope that&#8217;s interesting / amusing  /enlightening / fun for y&#8217;all..</p>
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		<title>By: Astrogirl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25098</link>
		<dc:creator>Astrogirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those pictures are beautiful, as are all the other Mars pictures that have been on here lately.  Yes, keep them coming.  It&#039;s so nice to catch up on science news quickly by coming to the BA website.  I often forward links of these pictures (of Mars, Saturn, etc.) to friends at work and fellow-astronomy club members.  It&#039;s one of the more successful ways to get others interested in astronomy (or to keep fellow astronomy geeks happy).

Thanks for the pictures, and keep showing us more!

Astrogirl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those pictures are beautiful, as are all the other Mars pictures that have been on here lately.  Yes, keep them coming.  It&#8217;s so nice to catch up on science news quickly by coming to the BA website.  I often forward links of these pictures (of Mars, Saturn, etc.) to friends at work and fellow-astronomy club members.  It&#8217;s one of the more successful ways to get others interested in astronomy (or to keep fellow astronomy geeks happy).</p>
<p>Thanks for the pictures, and keep showing us more!</p>
<p>Astrogirl</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Vector</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25097</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Vector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice photo!  Appropriately rotated and scaled, it&#039;s my new desktop background.  (Replacing &lt;a href=&quot;http://olduvaigeorge.com/2006/12/01/march-of-the-hippoartiowhales/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ambulocetus&lt;/a&gt;, but only because it&#039;s more abstract and thus less distracting for those rare moments when my screen isn&#039;t covered in windows.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice photo!  Appropriately rotated and scaled, it&#8217;s my new desktop background.  (Replacing <a href="http://olduvaigeorge.com/2006/12/01/march-of-the-hippoartiowhales/" rel="nofollow">Ambulocetus</a>, but only because it&#8217;s more abstract and thus less distracting for those rare moments when my screen isn&#8217;t covered in windows.)</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25096</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Puts me in mind of Salvador Dali
http://www.dali-gallery.com/images/works/1981_01.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Puts me in mind of Salvador Dali<br />
<a href="http://www.dali-gallery.com/images/works/1981_01.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.dali-gallery.com/images/works/1981_01.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Phillips</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25095</link>
		<dc:creator>John Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 19:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those running Windows who don&#039;t want to download the viewer mentioned in the previous posting abut Hires Mars images the full blown .JP2 images can be viewed in Irfanview as long as its plugins pack is installed. And, oh wow, they do look even more amazing when you zoom in on different areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those running Windows who don&#8217;t want to download the viewer mentioned in the previous posting abut Hires Mars images the full blown .JP2 images can be viewed in Irfanview as long as its plugins pack is installed. And, oh wow, they do look even more amazing when you zoom in on different areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Foreign Kid</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25094</link>
		<dc:creator>Foreign Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 15:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet there are giant worms living under those dunes, much like (duh) the books &quot;Dune.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet there are giant worms living under those dunes, much like (duh) the books &#8220;Dune.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Grand Lunar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25093</link>
		<dc:creator>Grand Lunar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 02:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry all. My fault for sticking my nose where it didn&#039;t belong.
Now, I shall go enjoy my humble pie.

*slinks away*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry all. My fault for sticking my nose where it didn&#8217;t belong.<br />
Now, I shall go enjoy my humble pie.</p>
<p>*slinks away*</p>
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		<title>By: Darmok</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25092</link>
		<dc:creator>Darmok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 22:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right; he is not trolling at all! The term, by the way, is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrackBack&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TrackBack&lt;/a&gt;. When he posted about this entry in his blog (and used the trackback), the BA blog generated that comment. I admit it can be confusing, though you can usually tell trackbacks by the â€œ[...]â€ they use to indicate that an excerpt of the other entry is being posted here. Incidentally, I believe â€A Lerâ€ is the title of his post, and probably means something like â€œto read.â€ Heâ€™s promoting BA, not criticizing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right; he is not trolling at all! The term, by the way, is a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrackBack" rel="nofollow">TrackBack</a>. When he posted about this entry in his blog (and used the trackback), the BA blog generated that comment. I admit it can be confusing, though you can usually tell trackbacks by the â€œ[...]â€ they use to indicate that an excerpt of the other entry is being posted here. Incidentally, I believe â€A Lerâ€ is the title of his post, and probably means something like â€œto read.â€ Heâ€™s promoting BA, not criticizing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Melusine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25091</link>
		<dc:creator>Melusine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, &quot;A Ler&quot; wasn&#039;t being critical at all. He was just posting a link to his blog. &quot;No&quot; is &quot;in&quot; in Portuguese. BTW, he has the Ann Druyan article posted that was in this month&#039;s Planetary Report - nice piece on her late husband, Carl Sagan.

See his page here to read it:
http://rastosdeluz.astronomo-amador.com/?p=384</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, &#8220;A Ler&#8221; wasn&#8217;t being critical at all. He was just posting a link to his blog. &#8220;No&#8221; is &#8220;in&#8221; in Portuguese. BTW, he has the Ann Druyan article posted that was in this month&#8217;s Planetary Report &#8211; nice piece on her late husband, Carl Sagan.</p>
<p>See his page here to read it:<br />
<a href="http://rastosdeluz.astronomo-amador.com/?p=384" rel="nofollow">http://rastosdeluz.astronomo-amador.com/?p=384</a></p>
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		<title>By: Grand Lunar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25090</link>
		<dc:creator>Grand Lunar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Nerull. Makes sense now!

I only thought that &#039;A Ler&#039; was trolling because it seems he was criticizing the BA for posting topics that are appearently don&#039;t relate to &quot;bad astronomy&quot;.
Shows the difficulty of not having the guy write in english so we call can understand.
Also, one post he did looked as if he was being critical of the subject matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Nerull. Makes sense now!</p>
<p>I only thought that &#8216;A Ler&#8217; was trolling because it seems he was criticizing the BA for posting topics that are appearently don&#8217;t relate to &#8220;bad astronomy&#8221;.<br />
Shows the difficulty of not having the guy write in english so we call can understand.<br />
Also, one post he did looked as if he was being critical of the subject matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Will. M.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25089</link>
		<dc:creator>Will. M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to the link&#039;s site, and looked at his bio.  I think it&#039;s in Portugese, but it might as well be Greek &#039;cause I can&#039;t read it anyway.  And to think my grandparents refused to teach me Swedish and Finnish because they wanted to be sure we grandkids were 100% American...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to the link&#8217;s site, and looked at his bio.  I think it&#8217;s in Portugese, but it might as well be Greek &#8217;cause I can&#8217;t read it anyway.  And to think my grandparents refused to teach me Swedish and Finnish because they wanted to be sure we grandkids were 100% American&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nerull</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25088</link>
		<dc:creator>Nerull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I don&#039;t think A Ler is trolling. He is posting a link to this article on his blog, and this one must be setup to post a summary of his link. (There is a blog-term for this system, but I can&#039;t remember it at the moment.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I don&#8217;t think A Ler is trolling. He is posting a link to this article on his blog, and this one must be setup to post a summary of his link. (There is a blog-term for this system, but I can&#8217;t remember it at the moment.)</p>
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		<title>By: Nerull</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25087</link>
		<dc:creator>Nerull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Sietch is the caverns the Fremen lived in. They usualy had a cistern where water condensed from the air was stored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Sietch is the caverns the Fremen lived in. They usualy had a cistern where water condensed from the air was stored.</p>
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		<title>By: Darmok</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25086</link>
		<dc:creator>Darmok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 19:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wowâ€”if someone had shown me that picture and asked me to guess what it was, I would have probably thought was some sort of scanning tunnelling electron microphotographâ€¦Martian sand dunes would never have occurred to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wowâ€”if someone had shown me that picture and asked me to guess what it was, I would have probably thought was some sort of scanning tunnelling electron microphotographâ€¦Martian sand dunes would never have occurred to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Grand Lunar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25085</link>
		<dc:creator>Grand Lunar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t understand the reference you made, ABR. Guess I&#039;m not as familar with &quot;Dune&quot; as you may be (I only know of the 1980s film and the on Sci-Fi did).

*sigh* I wish that &#039;A Ler&#039; guy would quit trolling here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t understand the reference you made, ABR. Guess I&#8217;m not as familar with &#8220;Dune&#8221; as you may be (I only know of the 1980s film and the on Sci-Fi did).</p>
<p>*sigh* I wish that &#8216;A Ler&#8217; guy would quit trolling here.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25084</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sand surfing, anyone?

In the empty quarter(the Rub AL Khali)  of southeast Arabia, there are red dunes 800 feet tall and not a drop of rain has been recorded in the past century. I wonder if that could be a good starting point for researchers trying to determine if man can survive in the Martian equivelant? Of course, there are differences between these and those of MArs. For one, there&#039;s good air and another it&#039;s typically over 130 degress F. in the summer(measured at up to 134).

Gary 7</description>
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<p>In the empty quarter(the Rub AL Khali)  of southeast Arabia, there are red dunes 800 feet tall and not a drop of rain has been recorded in the past century. I wonder if that could be a good starting point for researchers trying to determine if man can survive in the Martian equivelant? Of course, there are differences between these and those of MArs. For one, there&#8217;s good air and another it&#8217;s typically over 130 degress F. in the summer(measured at up to 134).</p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: A Ler&#8230;-- Rastos de Luz</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Ler&#8230;-- Rastos de Luz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Dune Mars&#8220;, no Bad Astronomy; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Dune Mars&#8220;, no Bad Astronomy; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ABR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25082</link>
		<dc:creator>ABR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As was I, Grand Lunar. You just beat me to it.

And jasonB...Kul wahad, indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As was I, Grand Lunar. You just beat me to it.</p>
<p>And jasonB&#8230;Kul wahad, indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kowabunga----wheeewww----dumbstruck!!!

i cannot think of science right now, the is art through nature.

Jimi Hendrix had a song with the following lyrics:

Castles made of sand fall into the sea eventually....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kowabunga&#8212;-wheeewww&#8212;-dumbstruck!!!</p>
<p>i cannot think of science right now, the is art through nature.</p>
<p>Jimi Hendrix had a song with the following lyrics:</p>
<p>Castles made of sand fall into the sea eventually&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jasonB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25080</link>
		<dc:creator>jasonB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kul wuhad!</description>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25079</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely spectacular.</description>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 14:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see a face!  I see a face!  A face in the sand dunes!  Does anyone else see a face?  Proof of extraterrestrial life at last!

Sorry, couldn&#039;t resist.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a face!  I see a face!  A face in the sand dunes!  Does anyone else see a face?  Proof of extraterrestrial life at last!</p>
<p>Sorry, couldn&#8217;t resist.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Grand Lunar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/08/dune-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-25077</link>
		<dc:creator>Grand Lunar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 13:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you refer to, ABR?

You do know I was making a joke, referring to Frank Herbert&#039;s novel, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you refer to, ABR?</p>
<p>You do know I was making a joke, referring to Frank Herbert&#8217;s novel, right?</p>
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