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	<title>Comments on: Running is not an option</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/22/running-is-not-an-option/comment-page-1/#comment-26232</link>
		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot; I prefer mars. The gravity and atmosphere are a big plus.&quot;

(blank stare)

That&#039;s a bit like moving from Bratsk to Novosibirsk for the warmer weather.

Note to Monkey: lighten up, guy!

And there really are some of us out here so disconnected from the dippy cultures on the Earth that a &quot;Galt&#039;s Gultch&quot; in space is an attractive idea if only the technology and money were there to accomplish it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&#8221; I prefer mars. The gravity and atmosphere are a big plus.&#8221;</p>
<p>(blank stare)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a bit like moving from Bratsk to Novosibirsk for the warmer weather.</p>
<p>Note to Monkey: lighten up, guy!</p>
<p>And there really are some of us out here so disconnected from the dippy cultures on the Earth that a &#8220;Galt&#8217;s Gultch&#8221; in space is an attractive idea if only the technology and money were there to accomplish it.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/22/running-is-not-an-option/comment-page-1/#comment-26231</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this what we really want? To:
a) absolve ourselves and our leaders (are we not all leaders of at least some things?) of the responsibility to control human impact on Earth? To say, &quot;yes its bad but whatever...there are other planets&quot;. Will the prblems we enact here not only propogate on other worlds but be in even more control of technology and distance ourselves from evolutionary foundations that allowed us to survive?
b) To assume that human survival is the end all of science, and to that end if &#039;we&#039; can survive on other wolrds, so be it. Earth was nice while it lasted? What about the myriad species that ARE the foundation (along with humans) of the evolving and SURVIVING ecological background.
c) On a tangent of sorts - are we not imply playing out a godly ownership of earth and all extant species? Is this where science and ignorance meet?

Why, then, shouldI propose to my students that we curb our ways and try to meld BACK with nature, in a format that has worked in a symbiotic co-format? Why not give them their saran wrapped hamburgers and help them pick out a new SUV for when they are older....we are giving up anyway.
I think that this is an ignorant use of science.
who was it that spoke  &quot;science now has blood in its hands?&quot;  Well, I propose we dont re-bloddy our hands.

Hmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this what we really want? To:<br />
a) absolve ourselves and our leaders (are we not all leaders of at least some things?) of the responsibility to control human impact on Earth? To say, &#8220;yes its bad but whatever&#8230;there are other planets&#8221;. Will the prblems we enact here not only propogate on other worlds but be in even more control of technology and distance ourselves from evolutionary foundations that allowed us to survive?<br />
b) To assume that human survival is the end all of science, and to that end if &#8216;we&#8217; can survive on other wolrds, so be it. Earth was nice while it lasted? What about the myriad species that ARE the foundation (along with humans) of the evolving and SURVIVING ecological background.<br />
c) On a tangent of sorts &#8211; are we not imply playing out a godly ownership of earth and all extant species? Is this where science and ignorance meet?</p>
<p>Why, then, shouldI propose to my students that we curb our ways and try to meld BACK with nature, in a format that has worked in a symbiotic co-format? Why not give them their saran wrapped hamburgers and help them pick out a new SUV for when they are older&#8230;.we are giving up anyway.<br />
I think that this is an ignorant use of science.<br />
who was it that spoke  &#8220;science now has blood in its hands?&#8221;  Well, I propose we dont re-bloddy our hands.</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/22/running-is-not-an-option/comment-page-1/#comment-26230</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost blew off the entire morning, distracted by all those &#039;toons. Bet ya can&#039;t read just one!

Ah, vacuum. Great for mass driver launched vehicles, the most efficient method ever devised to launch payloads to space. Too bad we can&#039;t maintain such on the earths surface. On the other hand, air makes good reaction mass, as long as your power generator stays on the ground. Just need a really looong extension cord,,,or high power micro wave transmitters,,,

Luna could be a really cool jumping off platform for launching to the outer planets.

GAry 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost blew off the entire morning, distracted by all those &#8216;toons. Bet ya can&#8217;t read just one!</p>
<p>Ah, vacuum. Great for mass driver launched vehicles, the most efficient method ever devised to launch payloads to space. Too bad we can&#8217;t maintain such on the earths surface. On the other hand, air makes good reaction mass, as long as your power generator stays on the ground. Just need a really looong extension cord,,,or high power micro wave transmitters,,,</p>
<p>Luna could be a really cool jumping off platform for launching to the outer planets.</p>
<p>GAry 7</p>
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		<title>By: James Pyrich</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/12/22/running-is-not-an-option/comment-page-1/#comment-26229</link>
		<dc:creator>James Pyrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the problem that the world&#039;s leaders are insincere, or is it that we expect them to be something that they&#039;re not?

I wonder if the title of your post was an intentional double-entendre.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the problem that the world&#8217;s leaders are insincere, or is it that we expect them to be something that they&#8217;re not?</p>
<p>I wonder if the title of your post was an intentional double-entendre.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Infophile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Infophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I moved to Canada for university, partly to get away from them. And then the year I moved they elected Harper. *sigh* The moon would have been a better choice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I moved to Canada for university, partly to get away from them. And then the year I moved they elected Harper. *sigh* The moon would have been a better choice&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gravity sucks, but so does vacuum. I&#039;ll take a moonbase any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gravity sucks, but so does vacuum. I&#8217;ll take a moonbase any day.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Casserly</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Casserly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though you can get a nice view of the earth from the moon, I prefer mars. The gravity and atmosphere are a big plus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though you can get a nice view of the earth from the moon, I prefer mars. The gravity and atmosphere are a big plus.</p>
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