Comments on: Get in Mars’s face! http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/ I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:14:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Carlos Alberto http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/comment-page-1/#comment-27649 Carlos Alberto Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:53:10 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/#comment-27649 Sorry, but the "Malin" photos (that were used in an "turn-around" animation at theWeb) aren't real photos for me! They never were! They were produced by 3D programs. Look to the textures! I am an artist.I draw, profissionally, so I have a "good eye" for this kind of thing. They are "artistics" images, not photos! The other ESA photos (signed by G. Neukun, not by Malin) shows an half face, not diferent of all seen before. The eroded side may have been airbrushed, for to hide some aspects, too. It's not impossible! What seems to me a proof of cover-up: How many photos were taken, to produce that Web animation? (not the "flash" film; I am talking about the ESA animation).Do you all have a "small notion" of how many frames are necessary to produce an animation? The Mars Express didn't take all that photos, at various angles, for make the animation, for sure! It's impossible, they don't make this sort of thing and they don't seems photos! It's Malin trying to trick all of us, again ! Sorry, but the “Malin” photos (that were used in an “turn-around” animation at theWeb) aren’t real photos for me! They never were!
They were produced by 3D programs. Look to the textures! I am an artist.I draw, profissionally, so I have a “good eye” for this kind of thing. They are “artistics” images, not photos!
The other ESA photos (signed by G. Neukun, not by Malin) shows an half face, not diferent of all seen before. The eroded side may have been airbrushed, for to hide some aspects, too. It’s not impossible!
What seems to me a proof of cover-up: How many photos were taken, to produce that Web animation? (not the “flash” film; I am talking about the ESA animation).Do you all have a “small notion” of how many frames are necessary to produce an animation? The Mars Express didn’t take all that photos, at various angles, for make the animation, for sure! It’s impossible, they don’t make this sort of thing and they don’t seems photos!
It’s Malin trying to trick all of us, again !

]]> By: Bruce Pitcairn Strachan http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/comment-page-1/#comment-27648 Bruce Pitcairn Strachan Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:14:45 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/#comment-27648 not a nutt, iq 165 an artist of 45 years. Listen to me straight on and put all the cute things to say aside. What this "face" and other features in the sorrounding countryside indicate is a violence so vast, so brutal, so efficient...pointing to highways beneath the Carribean, cities below the Meditteranian, buildings below the Gulf of Mexico and "Lord Knows What-all", plus enough cocktail ice spinning around Saturn for a large party that already took place and also to the fact that you`ll not have the technoligy to play copycat for a while yet. That FACE peers down on 30,000 year-old heads dug up while heads are being chopped off a few miles away. (nothing new to the British) It`s been watching the entire time..Why aren`t we embarrassed? not a nutt, iq 165 an artist of 45 years. Listen to me straight on and put
all the cute things to say aside. What this “face” and other features in
the sorrounding countryside indicate is a violence so vast, so brutal, so
efficient…pointing to highways beneath the Carribean, cities below the
Meditteranian, buildings below the Gulf of Mexico and “Lord Knows What-all”, plus enough cocktail ice spinning around Saturn for a large party that already took place and also to the fact that you`ll not have the technoligy to play copycat for a while yet. That FACE peers down on 30,000 year-old heads dug up while heads are being chopped off a few miles away. (nothing new to the British) It`s been watching the entire time..Why
aren`t we embarrassed?

]]> By: Jack Hagerty http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/comment-page-1/#comment-27647 Jack Hagerty Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:02:00 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/#comment-27647 Polarbeast Says: "But wait! After the initial zoom-in, just before it shows the original Viking 1 photo that made the “Face” famous, look just beneath… it shows a buried skull! SweartoGod. It’s uncanny. This proves that pirates populated Mars." :-) Yes, it's uncanny. I've been using that image as my wallpaper at work for a few months (trading off with the one of back-lit Saturn). I never tell anyone about the "skull", but they all catch it on their own. - Jack Polarbeast Says: “But wait! After the initial zoom-in, just before it shows the original Viking 1 photo that made the “Face” famous, look just beneath… it shows a buried skull! SweartoGod. It’s uncanny. This proves that pirates populated Mars.”
:-)

Yes, it’s uncanny. I’ve been using that image as my wallpaper at work for a few months (trading off with the one of back-lit Saturn). I never tell anyone about the “skull”, but they all catch it on their own.

- Jack

]]> By: Polarbeast http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/comment-page-1/#comment-27646 Polarbeast Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:19:00 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/#comment-27646 But wait! After the initial zoom-in, just before it shows the original Viking 1 photo that made the "Face" famous, look just beneath... it shows a buried skull! SweartoGod. It's uncanny. This proves that pirates populated Mars. I'm off to the presses... :D But wait! After the initial zoom-in, just before it shows the original Viking 1 photo that made the “Face” famous, look just beneath… it shows a buried skull! SweartoGod. It’s uncanny.

This proves that pirates populated Mars.

I’m off to the presses…
:D

]]> By: seaducer http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/comment-page-1/#comment-27645 seaducer Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:36:48 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/#comment-27645 Hmm, some of those shots looked more to me like an eroded monument than the other photos I have seen before,lol Then again the "face" definately resembles Peter Boyle from that Mel Brooks movie, so aliens couldn't have built it, unless they did so with technology to make it look much older than it is. Maybe they got those techniques from God. Could you imagine an advanced alien culture that is in love with b movies? We would rule the galaxy! Hmm, some of those shots looked more to me like an eroded monument than the other photos I have seen before,lol

Then again the “face” definately resembles Peter Boyle from that Mel Brooks movie, so aliens couldn’t have built it, unless they did so with technology to make it look much older than it is. Maybe they got those techniques from God.

Could you imagine an advanced alien culture that is in love with b movies? We would rule the galaxy!

]]> By: Melusine http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/comment-page-1/#comment-27644 Melusine Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:16:56 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/#comment-27644 Nice flash movie. Yeah, Gary, you're quite right: Hoagland could have put his energy into writing science fiction stories and sold books that way, rather than trying to pass his imagination off as real. Now it's too late - he can't save face and he'll just be remembered as a kook. "He can't save face..." I really didn't intend that pun, but it works. (-8~ Nice flash movie. Yeah, Gary, you’re quite right: Hoagland could have put his energy into writing science fiction stories and sold books that way, rather than trying to pass his imagination off as real. Now it’s too late – he can’t save face and he’ll just be remembered as a kook.

“He can’t save face…” I really didn’t intend that pun, but it works. (-8~

]]> By: Gary Ansorge http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/comment-page-1/#comment-27643 Gary Ansorge Mon, 15 Jan 2007 07:05:52 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/#comment-27643 You know, if Hogland had just billed his "insights" as a SciFi disaster story, he could have sold it to Hollywood and laughed all the way to the bank. I've become bored by all the "end of the world" asteroid/comet/volcano stories. Why does it seem there are so few that offer hope? I got to thinking about comet mcnaught(a dangerous thing to do, I admit) and the possible stories that could evolve from an orbital change induced by a close solar approach(happens all the time, I hear). If the comet were to impact Luna at just the right angle(however unlikly) to launch some lunar debris into a million year earth orbit, wouldn't the close availability of such handy resources tempt entrepreneurs to go for them? All kinds of hopeful possibilities arise from THAT scenario. Plus all those delivered volatiles from the comet now buried deep(but not TOO deep) within the moon. Water anybody? Ah, I'm an incurable optimist. Gary 7 You know, if Hogland had just billed his “insights” as a SciFi disaster story, he could have sold it to Hollywood and laughed all the way to the bank. I’ve become bored by all the “end of the world” asteroid/comet/volcano stories. Why does it seem there are so few that offer hope?
I got to thinking about comet mcnaught(a dangerous thing to do, I admit) and the possible stories that could evolve from an orbital change induced by a close solar approach(happens all the time, I hear). If the comet were to impact Luna at just the right angle(however unlikly) to launch some lunar debris into a million year earth orbit, wouldn’t the close availability of such handy resources tempt entrepreneurs to go for them? All kinds of hopeful possibilities arise from THAT scenario. Plus all those delivered volatiles from the comet now buried deep(but not TOO deep) within the moon. Water anybody?

Ah, I’m an incurable optimist.

Gary 7

]]> By: Walter Williams http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/comment-page-1/#comment-27642 Walter Williams Mon, 15 Jan 2007 05:27:52 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/#comment-27642 When we finally get established on Mars, we should finish the job the aliens didn't. This whole "Is it a face or isn't it" discussion is just too controversial. When we finally get established on Mars, we should finish the job the aliens didn’t. This whole “Is it a face or isn’t it” discussion is just too controversial.

]]> By: Lorne Ipsum http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/comment-page-1/#comment-27641 Lorne Ipsum Mon, 15 Jan 2007 03:55:36 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/#comment-27641 BA, Hoagland may have gone silent about the face, but his buddy Mark Carlotto is still making all sorts of noise about it (including an article published recently in JBIS). You might want to expand your "Face on Mars" pages to cover folks other than Hoagland... Lorne BA,

Hoagland may have gone silent about the face, but his buddy Mark Carlotto is still making all sorts of noise about it (including an article published recently in JBIS). You might want to expand your “Face on Mars” pages to cover folks other than Hoagland…

Lorne

]]> By: ABR http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/comment-page-1/#comment-27640 ABR Mon, 15 Jan 2007 03:55:02 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/01/14/get-in-marss-face/#comment-27640 Nice movie. Given the buildup, I half-expected the final image to have Richard Hoagland's face superimposed on the rock outcropping. At least it wasn't a Face on Mars version of the stupid dancing Elf movie that made the rounds last month. Nice movie. Given the buildup, I half-expected the final image to have Richard Hoagland’s face superimposed on the rock outcropping. At least it wasn’t a Face on Mars version of the stupid dancing Elf movie that made the rounds last month.

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