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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;&#8230; and Admiral, it is very Chile in space.&#8221;</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Pete Sturtevant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Sturtevant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While taking a break from campus turmoil in â€™69 my wife and I were sitting in the gathering dark in the Sierras when we saw a UFO.  A bright white head shedding smaller &#039;craft&#039; and rising slowly through the trees.  Knowing that there had to be an explanation, it none the less unnerved us.
The papers the next day mentioned that the coast of California was treated to a spectacular display of the second (or third) stage separation of a rocket fired from Vandenberg 400kms south, hence from our perspective it never got above the trees.
Had we been of that ilk it would have been a story of a definite spacecraft leaving planet earth, maybe even with abductees aboard.  Gees, what a letdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While taking a break from campus turmoil in â€™69 my wife and I were sitting in the gathering dark in the Sierras when we saw a UFO.  A bright white head shedding smaller &#8216;craft&#8217; and rising slowly through the trees.  Knowing that there had to be an explanation, it none the less unnerved us.<br />
The papers the next day mentioned that the coast of California was treated to a spectacular display of the second (or third) stage separation of a rocket fired from Vandenberg 400kms south, hence from our perspective it never got above the trees.<br />
Had we been of that ilk it would have been a story of a definite spacecraft leaving planet earth, maybe even with abductees aboard.  Gees, what a letdown.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With our own history for colonizing every available ecological niche and &quot;removing&quot; competing species, I doubt seriously we&#039;d still be here if there was some techno. superior species around. We&#039;d just be one of the &quot;removed&quot; species. Simple enough to do, with advanced genetic engineering techniques.

I believe it was Arthur Clark or Issac Asimov who calculated that even at sub light velocities, an expansive techno. species could completely colonize the galaxy in about 2 million years(exponential growth). If it&#039;s NOT expansive, it would never have had the urge to make it into space in the first place, so we&#039;d never see them here.

Since it takes a very specific combination of elements, cooked up in super novae, to provide the right mix for life to form and it&#039;s been just barely long enough for that mix to result in us, I expect IF there are other techno species out there, they are at about the same place we are, however,,,if they&#039;re anywhere close enough to come see us, they should also have left pleanty of electromagnetic waste from their early development for us to have found traces of them by now.

There&#039;s almost as much evidence for ET as there is for god,,.,

Gary 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With our own history for colonizing every available ecological niche and &#8220;removing&#8221; competing species, I doubt seriously we&#8217;d still be here if there was some techno. superior species around. We&#8217;d just be one of the &#8220;removed&#8221; species. Simple enough to do, with advanced genetic engineering techniques.</p>
<p>I believe it was Arthur Clark or Issac Asimov who calculated that even at sub light velocities, an expansive techno. species could completely colonize the galaxy in about 2 million years(exponential growth). If it&#8217;s NOT expansive, it would never have had the urge to make it into space in the first place, so we&#8217;d never see them here.</p>
<p>Since it takes a very specific combination of elements, cooked up in super novae, to provide the right mix for life to form and it&#8217;s been just barely long enough for that mix to result in us, I expect IF there are other techno species out there, they are at about the same place we are, however,,,if they&#8217;re anywhere close enough to come see us, they should also have left pleanty of electromagnetic waste from their early development for us to have found traces of them by now.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s almost as much evidence for ET as there is for god,,.,</p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
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		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops, forgot to finish that last sentance... should have added... is unfortunate, because they really are wasting their time trying to defend the indefensable.

I think I know why the IDers, have a problem with Time. They just can&#039;t seem to get their hourglasses to work reliably in Space. What with variable gravity having an effect on the &#039;Sands of Time&#039;. Think about it.

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops, forgot to finish that last sentance&#8230; should have added&#8230; is unfortunate, because they really are wasting their time trying to defend the indefensable.</p>
<p>I think I know why the IDers, have a problem with Time. They just can&#8217;t seem to get their hourglasses to work reliably in Space. What with variable gravity having an effect on the &#8216;Sands of Time&#8217;. Think about it.</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
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		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking about UFOs, whatever was the outcome of the &#039;State Fair Angel&#039; sighting way back in November? I mean definately. Because it DID fall into the category of being a UFO. And when it, or, they are truly identified, can no longer be classed as un-identified.

And of course, all or any UFO does not necessarily mean it is an alien spaceship or probe, just not able to be seen as what it really is without more evidence.

That there are &#039;starry-eyed&#039; mystics and evidence deniers and others with religious agendas, who would rather believe anything that could be backed-up by some dogma or ancient text, written when philosophy = science = religion.

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about UFOs, whatever was the outcome of the &#8216;State Fair Angel&#8217; sighting way back in November? I mean definately. Because it DID fall into the category of being a UFO. And when it, or, they are truly identified, can no longer be classed as un-identified.</p>
<p>And of course, all or any UFO does not necessarily mean it is an alien spaceship or probe, just not able to be seen as what it really is without more evidence.</p>
<p>That there are &#8217;starry-eyed&#8217; mystics and evidence deniers and others with religious agendas, who would rather believe anything that could be backed-up by some dogma or ancient text, written when philosophy = science = religion.</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: BigJohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigJohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does UFO automatically mean alien spacecraft?  I have seen quite a few UFOs but I have never seen an alien spacecraft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does UFO automatically mean alien spacecraft?  I have seen quite a few UFOs but I have never seen an alien spacecraft.</p>
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		<title>By: JustAl</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustAl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You all are just being naive. Aliens are already here in our culture, just cloaked so we can&#039;t see them. For instance, how many people in cloaks do you see on the street? None, right? See?! You can&#039;t see cloaks!!!!

The Greighs (correct spelling) are the ones causing quantum entanglement, and giggling helplessly. They&#039;d actually be snorting with laughter, but with their tiny nostrils this causes pressure buildup and their vision fluctuates, then they have to go lie down for a while.

Their communication waves around the Earth distort light and make us think there must be such a thing as &quot;dark matter,&quot; another endless source of amusement. They find the concept of &quot;unseen density&quot; to be incredibly ironic for our species, but I don&#039;t understand why.

The fact that we still reproduce only within our own species kinda creeps them out, though - apparently we&#039;re kinda the Ozarks of the galaxy. Several abductees are now stars of the immensely successful sitcom, &quot;The Bellatrix Hillbillies&quot; (loose translation) in their home system. The abductees that have been returned simply failed their screen tests. Misunderstandings about the nature of the microphones required means that every time the phrase &quot;anal probe&quot; is used, the Greighs have to go lie down again.

The truth is out there. Way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all are just being naive. Aliens are already here in our culture, just cloaked so we can&#8217;t see them. For instance, how many people in cloaks do you see on the street? None, right? See?! You can&#8217;t see cloaks!!!!</p>
<p>The Greighs (correct spelling) are the ones causing quantum entanglement, and giggling helplessly. They&#8217;d actually be snorting with laughter, but with their tiny nostrils this causes pressure buildup and their vision fluctuates, then they have to go lie down for a while.</p>
<p>Their communication waves around the Earth distort light and make us think there must be such a thing as &#8220;dark matter,&#8221; another endless source of amusement. They find the concept of &#8220;unseen density&#8221; to be incredibly ironic for our species, but I don&#8217;t understand why.</p>
<p>The fact that we still reproduce only within our own species kinda creeps them out, though &#8211; apparently we&#8217;re kinda the Ozarks of the galaxy. Several abductees are now stars of the immensely successful sitcom, &#8220;The Bellatrix Hillbillies&#8221; (loose translation) in their home system. The abductees that have been returned simply failed their screen tests. Misunderstandings about the nature of the microphones required means that every time the phrase &#8220;anal probe&#8221; is used, the Greighs have to go lie down again.</p>
<p>The truth is out there. Way.</p>
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		<title>By: dileffante</title>
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		<dc:creator>dileffante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a long tradition of ufo sightings, ufologists and ET-worshipping sects down there. I grew up hearing tales of Valdes&#039; abduction (yes, I&#039;m chilean), which were quite simple, since he didn&#039;t remember anything. I wonder if at the meeting he repeated the additions he made for TV talk shows in more recent years, about some message for mankind that Jesus gave him during the event. Then perhaps the field would be taken more seriously... it&#039;s Jesus, man, we ought to pay attention!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a long tradition of ufo sightings, ufologists and ET-worshipping sects down there. I grew up hearing tales of Valdes&#8217; abduction (yes, I&#8217;m chilean), which were quite simple, since he didn&#8217;t remember anything. I wonder if at the meeting he repeated the additions he made for TV talk shows in more recent years, about some message for mankind that Jesus gave him during the event. Then perhaps the field would be taken more seriously&#8230; it&#8217;s Jesus, man, we ought to pay attention!</p>
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