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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
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		<dc:creator>penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, it would still take a long time for the energy to reach the
upper layers of the star---so we use mid 21 century physics to find a way for the black hole produced energy to turn into the emission of
neutrino like particles that don&#039;t interact with standard matter--which let&#039;s them travel at the speed of light until they decay ( say just after
long enough to reach the upper layers) into standard matter. String theory should give particles like that. Again, we appeal to knowledge gained after several decades of artifical microblackhole experiments at the
LHC.

  Another point--it wasn&#039;t necessary for the sun to be almost dead--a small reduction in its output ( call it a long period variable star) would
be enough to threaten the earth. And that could be the result of deep internal process change started LONG ago.

   I could have written a much better movie--with accurate science, in my sleep. With no psychopathy, and lots about physics, the LHC, human culture adapting to the threat and the cooling, how the icarus ship was designed, and built ( there is where human ambivalence and religious
resistance can come in) and then the launching and the trip.

Penny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, it would still take a long time for the energy to reach the<br />
upper layers of the star&#8212;so we use mid 21 century physics to find a way for the black hole produced energy to turn into the emission of<br />
neutrino like particles that don&#8217;t interact with standard matter&#8211;which let&#8217;s them travel at the speed of light until they decay ( say just after<br />
long enough to reach the upper layers) into standard matter. String theory should give particles like that. Again, we appeal to knowledge gained after several decades of artifical microblackhole experiments at the<br />
LHC.</p>
<p>  Another point&#8211;it wasn&#8217;t necessary for the sun to be almost dead&#8211;a small reduction in its output ( call it a long period variable star) would<br />
be enough to threaten the earth. And that could be the result of deep internal process change started LONG ago.</p>
<p>   I could have written a much better movie&#8211;with accurate science, in my sleep. With no psychopathy, and lots about physics, the LHC, human culture adapting to the threat and the cooling, how the icarus ship was designed, and built ( there is where human ambivalence and religious<br />
resistance can come in) and then the launching and the trip.</p>
<p>Penny</p>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
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		<dc:creator>penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 02:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw it, and I walked out about two thirds in.
It was a horror movie--complete with bloody stabbings, people burned to death, an insane horribly burned psychopath etc.,
and  it made me physically sick for two hours after I fled. I may never see another new
Hollywood science fiction movie, as the creators are clearly psychopaths.

By the way, here is a more sensible way to turn on a star: You create an artifical small
 black hole and send it into the interior of the star using a wormhole.
Both the wormhole and the black hole are created using mid 21 century
knowledge of higher dimensional string theory learned at the LHC after 20 years. The black hole absorbs star matter and creates an alternative
energy source.
Penny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw it, and I walked out about two thirds in.<br />
It was a horror movie&#8211;complete with bloody stabbings, people burned to death, an insane horribly burned psychopath etc.,<br />
and  it made me physically sick for two hours after I fled. I may never see another new<br />
Hollywood science fiction movie, as the creators are clearly psychopaths.</p>
<p>By the way, here is a more sensible way to turn on a star: You create an artifical small<br />
 black hole and send it into the interior of the star using a wormhole.<br />
Both the wormhole and the black hole are created using mid 21 century<br />
knowledge of higher dimensional string theory learned at the LHC after 20 years. The black hole absorbs star matter and creates an alternative<br />
energy source.<br />
Penny</p>
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		<title>By: Max Tsukino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Tsukino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here in Mexico City the movie is on cinemas ...

In my opinion, it&#039;s not the average &quot;science fiction&quot; movie ... I think that - in a way and maybe taking a lot of liberties - it could be some sort of equivalent of some science fiction books ... think Asimov, Poul Anderson, Robert A. Heinlein, Larry Niven, etc ...

I liked the movie, a lot ...

it&#039;s not The Core ... not at all ...

I think there would be some errors and bad astronomy ... some people on the IMDB boards posted about them ... (I won&#039;t mention the comments, to avoid spoilers) ... but I don&#039;t think those are a serious crime ...

I really hope for an entry about the movie ... =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here in Mexico City the movie is on cinemas &#8230;</p>
<p>In my opinion, it&#8217;s not the average &#8220;science fiction&#8221; movie &#8230; I think that &#8211; in a way and maybe taking a lot of liberties &#8211; it could be some sort of equivalent of some science fiction books &#8230; think Asimov, Poul Anderson, Robert A. Heinlein, Larry Niven, etc &#8230;</p>
<p>I liked the movie, a lot &#8230;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s not The Core &#8230; not at all &#8230;</p>
<p>I think there would be some errors and bad astronomy &#8230; some people on the IMDB boards posted about them &#8230; (I won&#8217;t mention the comments, to avoid spoilers) &#8230; but I don&#8217;t think those are a serious crime &#8230;</p>
<p>I really hope for an entry about the movie &#8230; =)</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Gia, for enlightening us a bit better than the trailer did, without giving anything away. Now it sounds a little more believable... or less unbelievable... well, it sounds interesting. If the actors can get that excited about it, for the reasons you cited, it sounds at least worth a viewing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Gia, for enlightening us a bit better than the trailer did, without giving anything away. Now it sounds a little more believable&#8230; or less unbelievable&#8230; well, it sounds interesting. If the actors can get that excited about it, for the reasons you cited, it sounds at least worth a viewing!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Whiteside</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Whiteside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading the blog explaination, it seems like a pretty well-thought-out if implausible premise. I mean, it&#039;s the sort of thing Arthur C. Clarke got up to in a lot of his short stories. Of course it&#039;s the MacGuffin rather than a serious plot point so they get away with more in accuracy than, say, a Michael Crichton novel where the science represented is one of the themes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the blog explaination, it seems like a pretty well-thought-out if implausible premise. I mean, it&#8217;s the sort of thing Arthur C. Clarke got up to in a lot of his short stories. Of course it&#8217;s the MacGuffin rather than a serious plot point so they get away with more in accuracy than, say, a Michael Crichton novel where the science represented is one of the themes.</p>
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		<title>By: DennyMo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DennyMo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with CR, the trailer made the movie look like a space-bound &quot;Faces of Death&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: Gia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Phil! I tried commenting the other day, but it seems it was eaten en route.

Yes, the premise *does* sound outrageous. Trust me when I say that the &#039;mission to the Sun&#039; is to Sunshine what the &#039;briefcase&#039; is to Pulp Fiction... It&#039;s not like The Core (during which even my 10 year old son said &#039;Wait! That&#039;s not possible, is it?!&#039;). It&#039;s not like Event Horizon. It&#039;s not a &quot;disaster movie&quot;. Don&#039;t let the marketing people fool you...

The filmmakers (Alex Garland and Dany Boyle) want to use the film as a way to talk about science. They hired &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apolloschildren.com/brian/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brian Cox&lt;/a&gt; from CERN (my husband, actually) as science advisor. Brian admittedly had quite a time working out an explanation for why the Sun could be &quot;dimming&quot;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sunshinedna.com/?p=180&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is what he came up with.

The filmmakers are taking Brian around the world with them when they do press for the film so that he can talk to the world&#039;s *film media* about science and CERN... which is no bad thing...

Both the filmmakers and the actors were so inspired and excited by their pre-filming scientific &#039;education&#039; that one of the actors, Cillian Murphy (28 Days Later, Batman Begins, The Wind That Shakes the Barley) gave a talk at the Royal Society saying that he believes the work being done at CERN is &#039;truly an heroic pursuit&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Phil! I tried commenting the other day, but it seems it was eaten en route.</p>
<p>Yes, the premise *does* sound outrageous. Trust me when I say that the &#8216;mission to the Sun&#8217; is to Sunshine what the &#8216;briefcase&#8217; is to Pulp Fiction&#8230; It&#8217;s not like The Core (during which even my 10 year old son said &#8216;Wait! That&#8217;s not possible, is it?!&#8217;). It&#8217;s not like Event Horizon. It&#8217;s not a &#8220;disaster movie&#8221;. Don&#8217;t let the marketing people fool you&#8230;</p>
<p>The filmmakers (Alex Garland and Dany Boyle) want to use the film as a way to talk about science. They hired <a href="http://www.apolloschildren.com/brian/" rel="nofollow">Brian Cox</a> from CERN (my husband, actually) as science advisor. Brian admittedly had quite a time working out an explanation for why the Sun could be &#8220;dimming&#8221;. <a href="http://www.sunshinedna.com/?p=180" rel="nofollow">This</a> is what he came up with.</p>
<p>The filmmakers are taking Brian around the world with them when they do press for the film so that he can talk to the world&#8217;s *film media* about science and CERN&#8230; which is no bad thing&#8230;</p>
<p>Both the filmmakers and the actors were so inspired and excited by their pre-filming scientific &#8216;education&#8217; that one of the actors, Cillian Murphy (28 Days Later, Batman Begins, The Wind That Shakes the Barley) gave a talk at the Royal Society saying that he believes the work being done at CERN is &#8216;truly an heroic pursuit&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The amusing thing about the music is that - while I think it&#039;s the remixed version from Requiem for a Dream, which was nicked by the Lord of the Rings trailers - the original song is Mozart&#039;s Lux Aeterna - &quot;eternal light&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amusing thing about the music is that &#8211; while I think it&#8217;s the remixed version from Requiem for a Dream, which was nicked by the Lord of the Rings trailers &#8211; the original song is Mozart&#8217;s Lux Aeterna &#8211; &#8220;eternal light&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ioresult</title>
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		<dc:creator>ioresult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gia said, in november 2005, &quot;they were going to do something the â€˜traditional sci-fi movie wayâ€™ and after hearing your interview have decided to do it the â€˜correctâ€™ wayâ€¦&quot;.

I guess I can say what it is: the space ship viewed from space is going to be silent! (there&#039;s hoping)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gia said, in november 2005, &#8220;they were going to do something the â€˜traditional sci-fi movie wayâ€™ and after hearing your interview have decided to do it the â€˜correctâ€™ wayâ€¦&#8221;.</p>
<p>I guess I can say what it is: the space ship viewed from space is going to be silent! (there&#8217;s hoping)</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I heard the name Icarus in the trailer... not sure if I&#039;d want to be aboard any ship named that!</description>
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		<title>By: BJN</title>
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		<dc:creator>BJN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooh, big tanks of Wizard charcoal lighter fluid...that must be what that guy&#039;s drowning in! And the &quot;Promethius&quot; ship name. Dude, how did they think of that!

There are so many trilling science based stories to tell, why do sci-fi movies these days have to be based on a clueless premise? It can&#039;t all be the fault of clueless audiences. It has something to do with the unseen asphixiation of the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh, big tanks of Wizard charcoal lighter fluid&#8230;that must be what that guy&#8217;s drowning in! And the &#8220;Promethius&#8221; ship name. Dude, how did they think of that!</p>
<p>There are so many trilling science based stories to tell, why do sci-fi movies these days have to be based on a clueless premise? It can&#8217;t all be the fault of clueless audiences. It has something to do with the unseen asphixiation of the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Flak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q-D, I apologize, perhaps my point was not made well. I&#039;m only saying that many posting here are trashing a movie they know very little about beyond it&#039;s premise and it&#039;s pedigree. It may indeed be the worst movie since the inception of the motion picture, but we don&#039;t know that yet. There&#039;s no reviews, no one&#039;s seen it, so we&#039;re all to a point in the dark. But it&#039;s got good people behind it, so it deserves some deference. Trust me, if Micheal Bay were behind this I&#039;d be more then willing to laugh at it. And I&#039;d like to give you kudos, your point about Medium is excellent! There is a TV show who&#039;s premise is preposterous to the science minded skeptic, yet it&#039;s a good show. Well written, acted, and directed. Perhaps &#039;Sunshine&#039; will be the same way, perhaps not, but let it have its shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q-D, I apologize, perhaps my point was not made well. I&#8217;m only saying that many posting here are trashing a movie they know very little about beyond it&#8217;s premise and it&#8217;s pedigree. It may indeed be the worst movie since the inception of the motion picture, but we don&#8217;t know that yet. There&#8217;s no reviews, no one&#8217;s seen it, so we&#8217;re all to a point in the dark. But it&#8217;s got good people behind it, so it deserves some deference. Trust me, if Micheal Bay were behind this I&#8217;d be more then willing to laugh at it. And I&#8217;d like to give you kudos, your point about Medium is excellent! There is a TV show who&#8217;s premise is preposterous to the science minded skeptic, yet it&#8217;s a good show. Well written, acted, and directed. Perhaps &#8216;Sunshine&#8217; will be the same way, perhaps not, but let it have its shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Stark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, not truly related but this thread reminded me of this : http://qntm.org/orb

Seeing as how we&#039;re all science geeks here and there is a strong realtionship between science geekery and enjoyment of science fiction I figured I&#039;d post it.
It is a quite enjoyable short story about the sun going out...  the author is a fellow by the name of Sam Hughes - and not a bad writer of sci-fi shortstories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, not truly related but this thread reminded me of this : <a href="http://qntm.org/orb" rel="nofollow">http://qntm.org/orb</a></p>
<p>Seeing as how we&#8217;re all science geeks here and there is a strong realtionship between science geekery and enjoyment of science fiction I figured I&#8217;d post it.<br />
It is a quite enjoyable short story about the sun going out&#8230;  the author is a fellow by the name of Sam Hughes &#8211; and not a bad writer of sci-fi shortstories.</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet_Desperation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiet_Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flak said, &quot;Flak Says: &quot;Câ€™mon all, suspend a little disbeleif for a couple of hours, chow some bad popcorn and enjoy yourselves. Or at least try.&quot;

Because there&#039;s limits. If two cops on CSI jump into a police car, and the police cars flys across the city through the air with no explanation, that breaks the limits assuming it isn&#039;t some fantasy Blade Runner sequence.

I consider myself pretty open minded when it comes to fiction. For example, I&#039;m a hard core skeptic who really likes the show Medium, and my major crush on Patricia Arquette has *nothing* to do with it. Honest. I&#039;m the local Mr. Science Guy, but I read a lot of fantasy along with my SF.

But why watch a bad movie with bad popcorn when I can see a good movie with good popcorn? There&#039;s enough choices out there, or in my own home theater, so that I don&#039;t have to watch crap.

There&#039;s also the consideration that if people keep going to see bad movies, Hollywood will continue to make bad movies. If it&#039;s really &quot;so bad you have to see it&quot; then at least wait until it shows up on television and won&#039;t register as a ticket sale or rental.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flak said, &#8220;Flak Says: &#8220;Câ€™mon all, suspend a little disbeleif for a couple of hours, chow some bad popcorn and enjoy yourselves. Or at least try.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because there&#8217;s limits. If two cops on CSI jump into a police car, and the police cars flys across the city through the air with no explanation, that breaks the limits assuming it isn&#8217;t some fantasy Blade Runner sequence.</p>
<p>I consider myself pretty open minded when it comes to fiction. For example, I&#8217;m a hard core skeptic who really likes the show Medium, and my major crush on Patricia Arquette has *nothing* to do with it. Honest. I&#8217;m the local Mr. Science Guy, but I read a lot of fantasy along with my SF.</p>
<p>But why watch a bad movie with bad popcorn when I can see a good movie with good popcorn? There&#8217;s enough choices out there, or in my own home theater, so that I don&#8217;t have to watch crap.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the consideration that if people keep going to see bad movies, Hollywood will continue to make bad movies. If it&#8217;s really &#8220;so bad you have to see it&#8221; then at least wait until it shows up on television and won&#8217;t register as a ticket sale or rental.</p>
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		<title>By: ioresult</title>
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		<dc:creator>ioresult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ring from Stephen Baxter gives a nice idea why the sun would turn off, and it involves dark matter: neutralino lifeforms drinking gamma photons and so inhibiting fusion reactions inside stars.

Sundiver from David Brin gives good ideas on how a ship might survive inside the Sun&#039;s atmosphere. One nice idea: an X-ray cooling pump laser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ring from Stephen Baxter gives a nice idea why the sun would turn off, and it involves dark matter: neutralino lifeforms drinking gamma photons and so inhibiting fusion reactions inside stars.</p>
<p>Sundiver from David Brin gives good ideas on how a ship might survive inside the Sun&#8217;s atmosphere. One nice idea: an X-ray cooling pump laser.</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I thought about When Worlds Collide yesterday while I typed my first comment about Sunshine, and realized that I&#039;ve been glad all these years that nobody HAS remade it, because of the implausibility of the whole thing.
Now, though, I&#039;ll bet the floodgates are open and it&#039;s only a matter of time before we see it happen. I&#039;ll bet they were just waiting for the hubbub of Deep Impact &amp; Armageddon to die down before doing another &#039;collision&#039; themed disaster film.
Chip&#039;s right, though... colliding worlds seems more suspension-of-disbelief plausible than re-igniting the sun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I thought about When Worlds Collide yesterday while I typed my first comment about Sunshine, and realized that I&#8217;ve been glad all these years that nobody HAS remade it, because of the implausibility of the whole thing.<br />
Now, though, I&#8217;ll bet the floodgates are open and it&#8217;s only a matter of time before we see it happen. I&#8217;ll bet they were just waiting for the hubbub of Deep Impact &amp; Armageddon to die down before doing another &#8216;collision&#8217; themed disaster film.<br />
Chip&#8217;s right, though&#8230; colliding worlds seems more suspension-of-disbelief plausible than re-igniting the sun.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this is just an off-the-wall side comment and no big deal - but I wish someone with talent and money (and great sets) would remake into a movie Philip Wylie&#039;s &quot;When Worlds Collide&quot; - especially combined with the follow-up &quot;After Worlds Collide&quot;.  Though fantastical, it seems more suspension-of-disbelief-plausible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is just an off-the-wall side comment and no big deal &#8211; but I wish someone with talent and money (and great sets) would remake into a movie Philip Wylie&#8217;s &#8220;When Worlds Collide&#8221; &#8211; especially combined with the follow-up &#8220;After Worlds Collide&#8221;.  Though fantastical, it seems more suspension-of-disbelief-plausible.</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
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		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had a look at the &#039;standard&#039; video as provided in the blog, but it was un-inspiring, and seemed to be somewhat jerky and with too many pauses in it to be useful. Was not impressed, and the premise of the story, whoever came up with that?

So I read the comments, and was not surprised.

But then I did what is in-explicable. I downloaded the HD  version, as recommended by Caesar at 9:45pm, and was faced with three size choices - I selected the 38Mb version (others were 84 and 134Mb), and was prepared to wait a while while it loaded. Took about 30 seconds I reckon, and stretching the screen to the full entent, viewed the trailer again and saw much, much more than on the piddly little version in lo def, with no way to enlarge it. (Not that it would be any use as the thing would pixellate and jerk even more!)

I am almost game to d/l the 134Mb one, as these are in Quicktime, I should be suitably impressed.

So I have a better appreciation of the trailer at least, and I would enjoy the movie when it comes out, especially for the effects, even if I have to suspend my scientific sensibilities (hopefully). Still, it&#039;s a silly plot.

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had a look at the &#8216;standard&#8217; video as provided in the blog, but it was un-inspiring, and seemed to be somewhat jerky and with too many pauses in it to be useful. Was not impressed, and the premise of the story, whoever came up with that?</p>
<p>So I read the comments, and was not surprised.</p>
<p>But then I did what is in-explicable. I downloaded the HD  version, as recommended by Caesar at 9:45pm, and was faced with three size choices &#8211; I selected the 38Mb version (others were 84 and 134Mb), and was prepared to wait a while while it loaded. Took about 30 seconds I reckon, and stretching the screen to the full entent, viewed the trailer again and saw much, much more than on the piddly little version in lo def, with no way to enlarge it. (Not that it would be any use as the thing would pixellate and jerk even more!)</p>
<p>I am almost game to d/l the 134Mb one, as these are in Quicktime, I should be suitably impressed.</p>
<p>So I have a better appreciation of the trailer at least, and I would enjoy the movie when it comes out, especially for the effects, even if I have to suspend my scientific sensibilities (hopefully). Still, it&#8217;s a silly plot.</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: Flak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, lots of people taking the premise movie a little too seriously. C&#039;mon all, suspend a little disbeleif for a couple of hours, chow some bad popcorn and enjoy yourselves. Or at least try. The premise might be a little outrageous (how the hell WOULD you re-ignite a star), but if it&#039;s well put together, exciting, and the science isn&#039;t laughable it could be good. It&#039;s relatively rare for a film maker of this pedigree to even attempt sci-fi, so if the science isn&#039;t utterly laughable (Armageddon anyone?), give it a shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, lots of people taking the premise movie a little too seriously. C&#8217;mon all, suspend a little disbeleif for a couple of hours, chow some bad popcorn and enjoy yourselves. Or at least try. The premise might be a little outrageous (how the hell WOULD you re-ignite a star), but if it&#8217;s well put together, exciting, and the science isn&#8217;t laughable it could be good. It&#8217;s relatively rare for a film maker of this pedigree to even attempt sci-fi, so if the science isn&#8217;t utterly laughable (Armageddon anyone?), give it a shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerrsun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerrsun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re wondering how he eats and breathes
And other science facts,
Just repeat to yourself &quot;It&#039;s just a show,
I should really just relax

Some folks need to step back... cause emulating emotionless Vulcan&#039;s really ISN&#039;T cool.
 :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re wondering how he eats and breathes<br />
And other science facts,<br />
Just repeat to yourself &#8220;It&#8217;s just a show,<br />
I should really just relax</p>
<p>Some folks need to step back&#8230; cause emulating emotionless Vulcan&#8217;s really ISN&#8217;T cool.<br />
 <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Well, the trailer just came out. Itâ€™s really cool.
&gt; I still donâ€™t know what to make of this movie. The
&gt; Sun has shut down, and we send a spaceship to
&gt; restart it.

Phil, seriously.  I&#039;m mean, c&#039;mon.  You have no thoughts about this movie and think the trailer is cool?  Losing respect, man, losing respect.

I&#039;m not even an amateur astronomer and I think I vomited a little in my mouth when I saw this trailer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Well, the trailer just came out. Itâ€™s really cool.<br />
&gt; I still donâ€™t know what to make of this movie. The<br />
&gt; Sun has shut down, and we send a spaceship to<br />
&gt; restart it.</p>
<p>Phil, seriously.  I&#8217;m mean, c&#8217;mon.  You have no thoughts about this movie and think the trailer is cool?  Losing respect, man, losing respect.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even an amateur astronomer and I think I vomited a little in my mouth when I saw this trailer.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Core&lt;/i&gt; was hilarious! Come on, what&#039;s wrong with you people? It&#039;s truly one of the best comedies I&#039;ve ever seen.

As for &lt;i&gt;Sunshine&lt;/i&gt;, though... I&#039;d like to say I have faith in Danny Boyle, but if anything having a quality filmmaker on board is going to make the premise all the more painful.

I enjoyed &lt;i&gt;The Core&lt;/i&gt; because it was an awful movie that knew it was awful and just didn&#039;t care all that much. I&#039;m not sure I can stomach the same ridiculous premise in a film that intends to actually be good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Core</i> was hilarious! Come on, what&#8217;s wrong with you people? It&#8217;s truly one of the best comedies I&#8217;ve ever seen.</p>
<p>As for <i>Sunshine</i>, though&#8230; I&#8217;d like to say I have faith in Danny Boyle, but if anything having a quality filmmaker on board is going to make the premise all the more painful.</p>
<p>I enjoyed <i>The Core</i> because it was an awful movie that knew it was awful and just didn&#8217;t care all that much. I&#8217;m not sure I can stomach the same ridiculous premise in a film that intends to actually be good.</p>
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		<title>By: Amateur Heliochromologist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amateur Heliochromologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pleased. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pleased. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Kemeny</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Kemeny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another movie titled &#039;Sunshine&#039; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145503/ which follows a Hungarian Jewish family through the horrors of the 20th century.  While not a great movie, it depicts events honestly, and has Ralph Fiennes star in multiple roles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another movie titled &#8216;Sunshine&#8217; <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145503/" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145503/</a> which follows a Hungarian Jewish family through the horrors of the 20th century.  While not a great movie, it depicts events honestly, and has Ralph Fiennes star in multiple roles.</p>
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		<title>By: KingNor</title>
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		<dc:creator>KingNor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what i don&#039;t get is... dont&#039; stars operate using their own gravity?

it&#039;s not like they are galactic water heaters that can go out, and all you need to do is relight the pilot.

if the star is still there, it kind of has to keep doing its fusion reaction thing... right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what i don&#8217;t get is&#8230; dont&#8217; stars operate using their own gravity?</p>
<p>it&#8217;s not like they are galactic water heaters that can go out, and all you need to do is relight the pilot.</p>
<p>if the star is still there, it kind of has to keep doing its fusion reaction thing&#8230; right?</p>
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