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	<title>Comments on: Two gorgeous images</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Astrolink [Global Edition] &#187; Night FLIERs &#124; Latest astronomy news in 11 languages</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30029</link>
		<dc:creator>Astrolink [Global Edition] &#187; Night FLIERs &#124; Latest astronomy news in 11 languages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What you are seeing here is the death of a star like the Sun. I have written about them before (here and here, with some more general info here), so go read those to get the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Risa</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30028</link>
		<dc:creator>Risa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil you were right, the second image is up on APOD today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil you were right, the second image is up on APOD today!</p>
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		<title>By: ABR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30027</link>
		<dc:creator>ABR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of supernovae...did anyone else catch the segment entitled Galactic Gold on NPR&#039;s All Things Considered tonight? It traces the gold from one&#039;s wedding band back to a supernova that created it. There are even explosive sound effects when they talk about supernovae (and also a disclaimer about no sound in space). The story is up on NPR.org for those interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of supernovae&#8230;did anyone else catch the segment entitled Galactic Gold on NPR&#8217;s All Things Considered tonight? It traces the gold from one&#8217;s wedding band back to a supernova that created it. There are even explosive sound effects when they talk about supernovae (and also a disclaimer about no sound in space). The story is up on NPR.org for those interested.</p>
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		<title>By: BMurray</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30026</link>
		<dc:creator>BMurray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of those two NGC 2440 images is upside down.  Which is it?  My reference point is at risk here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of those two NGC 2440 images is upside down.  Which is it?  My reference point is at risk here!</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30025</link>
		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention the first image. Are you sure it is not a color Ultrasound image of ET&#039;s chest?

Um, I&#039;ll let you go now.

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention the first image. Are you sure it is not a color Ultrasound image of ET&#8217;s chest?</p>
<p>Um, I&#8217;ll let you go now.</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30024</link>
		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With reference to the second image, NGC2440, am I correct in thinking there is a reminescence of two party balloons bursting, a la, one frame of a high speed cine camera image, as we used to see in the newsreels, oh half-a-lifetime ago? The distribution of matter is quite like the balloon surface, the thicker (denser) matter still retaining the original form, with the great voids adjacent.

Or is it?

Could that void be just a &quot;matter of degree&quot; of voidness? There could be a much less dense interstellar space there? Or maybe actually a much more dense Dark Matter?

Fill me in.

Oh and one more thing. That junction between the two balloons would be rather compressed, like double , from the two gigantic pressure waves crashing into each other at twice the velocity of either. (I realise that actual balloons have a relatively stable pressure before they burst, unlike the supernovas which are essentially expanding from point sources.)

Well that is the way I see it.

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With reference to the second image, NGC2440, am I correct in thinking there is a reminescence of two party balloons bursting, a la, one frame of a high speed cine camera image, as we used to see in the newsreels, oh half-a-lifetime ago? The distribution of matter is quite like the balloon surface, the thicker (denser) matter still retaining the original form, with the great voids adjacent.</p>
<p>Or is it?</p>
<p>Could that void be just a &#8220;matter of degree&#8221; of voidness? There could be a much less dense interstellar space there? Or maybe actually a much more dense Dark Matter?</p>
<p>Fill me in.</p>
<p>Oh and one more thing. That junction between the two balloons would be rather compressed, like double , from the two gigantic pressure waves crashing into each other at twice the velocity of either. (I realise that actual balloons have a relatively stable pressure before they burst, unlike the supernovas which are essentially expanding from point sources.)</p>
<p>Well that is the way I see it.</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: skeptigirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>skeptigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, look at all the bubbles.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt J</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30022</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like that first image, probably because of the insanely huge amount of detail included therein. I like being a human and not something like, oh, an axolotl, because I can look at a really cool image like that and say, &quot;Oh! This is a really cool image! Gee, that&#039;s swell!&quot; or something to that extent. I also like the second one, just because of the bizarro shape of the explosion. Great posts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like that first image, probably because of the insanely huge amount of detail included therein. I like being a human and not something like, oh, an axolotl, because I can look at a really cool image like that and say, &#8220;Oh! This is a really cool image! Gee, that&#8217;s swell!&#8221; or something to that extent. I also like the second one, just because of the bizarro shape of the explosion. Great posts!</p>
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		<title>By: Grand Lunar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30021</link>
		<dc:creator>Grand Lunar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 02:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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The temperature of a â€œworkingâ€ star is in the billions of kelvins.
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If you mean a main sequence star Kaptain K, that would be millions, not billions.
You&#039;d encounter billions of Kelvin in very, very large stars or supernova.</description>
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The temperature of a â€œworkingâ€ star is in the billions of kelvins.<br />
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<p>If you mean a main sequence star Kaptain K, that would be millions, not billions.<br />
You&#8217;d encounter billions of Kelvin in very, very large stars or supernova.</p>
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		<title>By: dr fish</title>
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		<dc:creator>dr fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the blue circle goes in the Vela image, I would guess that it is a ghost image of a bright star that was on one or more of the images used for the blue frames. He&#039;s used 19 different Schmidt plate images, and one of those may have been oriented so that light from a bright star has reflected off the internal structure of the telescope and made the ghost image in that position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the blue circle goes in the Vela image, I would guess that it is a ghost image of a bright star that was on one or more of the images used for the blue frames. He&#8217;s used 19 different Schmidt plate images, and one of those may have been oriented so that light from a bright star has reflected off the internal structure of the telescope and made the ghost image in that position.</p>
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		<title>By: Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30019</link>
		<dc:creator>Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breathtaking. With these two and Helix earlier I need multiple desktops!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breathtaking. With these two and Helix earlier I need multiple desktops!</p>
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		<title>By: Kullat Nunu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kullat Nunu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Hubble website: &lt;i&gt;The image was taken Feb. 6, 2007 with Hubble&#039;s Wide Field Planetary Camera 2.&lt;/i&gt;

I wonder if the image released to remind people that Hubble is far from blind even though the ACS bit the dust?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Hubble website: <i>The image was taken Feb. 6, 2007 with Hubble&#8217;s Wide Field Planetary Camera 2.</i></p>
<p>I wonder if the image released to remind people that Hubble is far from blind even though the ACS bit the dust?</p>
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		<title>By: Kaptain K</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30017</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaptain K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make that &quot;The temperature of the core of a â€œworkingâ€ star...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that &#8220;The temperature of the core of a â€œworkingâ€ star&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kaptain K</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30016</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaptain K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>=====
&quot;Pardon my ignorance, but how does a star get so hot? Is it just from the compressional heating of the starâ€™s collapse?&quot;
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The white dwarf is what remains of the core of the progenitor star.The temperature of a &quot;working&quot; star is in the billions of kelvins. After the outer parts of the star are shed (creating the planetary nebula) the exposed core cools, quickly at first, more slowly as it ages. The surface temperature is an inverse function of its age.</description>
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&#8220;Pardon my ignorance, but how does a star get so hot? Is it just from the compressional heating of the starâ€™s collapse?&#8221;<br />
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<p>The white dwarf is what remains of the core of the progenitor star.The temperature of a &#8220;working&#8221; star is in the billions of kelvins. After the outer parts of the star are shed (creating the planetary nebula) the exposed core cools, quickly at first, more slowly as it ages. The surface temperature is an inverse function of its age.</p>
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		<title>By: Coreburn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30015</link>
		<dc:creator>Coreburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the link to &quot;a pan and scan version online&quot; is incorrect, it takes me to a totally different image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the link to &#8220;a pan and scan version online&#8221; is incorrect, it takes me to a totally different image.</p>
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		<title>By: RPink</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30014</link>
		<dc:creator>RPink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just caught that Vela shot on APOD mere minutes ago.  Just missed the boat, eh.  I love that shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just caught that Vela shot on APOD mere minutes ago.  Just missed the boat, eh.  I love that shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30013</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed it too, the same thing is around some of the blue stars in the high res version as well.  It could just be a &quot;near-by&quot; star that washed out the image which was removed but they left that in accidently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed it too, the same thing is around some of the blue stars in the high res version as well.  It could just be a &#8220;near-by&#8221; star that washed out the image which was removed but they left that in accidently.</p>
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		<title>By: Brant D</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30012</link>
		<dc:creator>Brant D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon my ignorance, but how does a star get so hot? Is it just from the compressional heating of the star&#039;s collapse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon my ignorance, but how does a star get so hot? Is it just from the compressional heating of the star&#8217;s collapse?</p>
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		<title>By: Teapot</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30011</link>
		<dc:creator>Teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the blue circular thing in the upper-right corner of the first image some sort of watermark?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the blue circular thing in the upper-right corner of the first image some sort of watermark?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/13/two-gorgeous-images/comment-page-1/#comment-30010</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Phil, you might be interested to know that the hilarious &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=936&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dinosaur Comics&lt;/a&gt; is campaigning, sort of, to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.qwantz.com/merchandise.html#moon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;return to the Moon&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Phil, you might be interested to know that the hilarious <a href="http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=936" rel="nofollow">Dinosaur Comics</a> is campaigning, sort of, to <a href="http://www.qwantz.com/merchandise.html#moon" rel="nofollow">return to the Moon</a>.</p>
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