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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: fryingsocks</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-183947</link>
		<dc:creator>fryingsocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 01:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alot of people have been asking me about my copy of Antonín Bečvář&#039;s Atlas of the Heavens: Atlas Coeli 1950.0. So I&#039;ll post the info here. I have two copies so one can go to whoever might be interested.

Atlas of the Sky. 16 fold out maps of the sky (approx. 16&quot; x 22&quot; each). Also included a large plastic grid overlay. The pages do not show any signs of use. The book has a blue soft cover, silver text, and a metal spiral-type binding. The cover shows wear due to it being oversized compared to text and map pages. Wear might also be due to the overall size of the book.

Author Info:
Antonín Bečvář IPA: [ˈantoɲi:n ˈbɛtʃva:r̝̊] (June 10, 1901 – January 10, 1965) was a Czech astronomer who was active in Slovakia. He was born (and died) in Stará Boleslav. Among his chief achievements is the foundation of the Skalnaté Pleso Observatory and the discovery of the comet C/1947 F2 (Bečvář) (also known by the designations 1947 III and 1947c).

Bečvář is particularly important for his star charts: he led the compilation of the Atlas Coeli Skalnate Pleso (1951), published by Sky Publishing Corporation as the Skalnate Pleso Atlas of the Heavens, which was the state-of-the-art atlas of its kind until Wil Tirion&#039;s &quot;Sky Atlas 2000.0&quot; in 1981. He also compiled Atlas eclipticalis, 1950.0 (1958), Atlas borealis 1950.0 (1962), and Atlas australis 1950.0 (1964). 

see it here on craigslist
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bks/1173148800.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alot of people have been asking me about my copy of Antonín Bečvář&#8217;s Atlas of the Heavens: Atlas Coeli 1950.0. So I&#8217;ll post the info here. I have two copies so one can go to whoever might be interested.</p>
<p>Atlas of the Sky. 16 fold out maps of the sky (approx. 16&#8243; x 22&#8243; each). Also included a large plastic grid overlay. The pages do not show any signs of use. The book has a blue soft cover, silver text, and a metal spiral-type binding. The cover shows wear due to it being oversized compared to text and map pages. Wear might also be due to the overall size of the book.</p>
<p>Author Info:<br />
Antonín Bečvář IPA: [ˈantoɲi:n ˈbɛtʃva:r̝̊] (June 10, 1901 – January 10, 1965) was a Czech astronomer who was active in Slovakia. He was born (and died) in Stará Boleslav. Among his chief achievements is the foundation of the Skalnaté Pleso Observatory and the discovery of the comet C/1947 F2 (Bečvář) (also known by the designations 1947 III and 1947c).</p>
<p>Bečvář is particularly important for his star charts: he led the compilation of the Atlas Coeli Skalnate Pleso (1951), published by Sky Publishing Corporation as the Skalnate Pleso Atlas of the Heavens, which was the state-of-the-art atlas of its kind until Wil Tirion&#8217;s &#8220;Sky Atlas 2000.0&#8243; in 1981. He also compiled Atlas eclipticalis, 1950.0 (1958), Atlas borealis 1950.0 (1962), and Atlas australis 1950.0 (1964). </p>
<p>see it here on craigslist<br />
<a href="http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bks/1173148800.html" rel="nofollow">http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bks/1173148800.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Young</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30264</link>
		<dc:creator>John Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Phil,
It&#039;s pretty funny that the google ad on this page is for naming a star....
NOT!
( I know you have no control over it, but still!!!!)

From the http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/02/14/star-scammery/
page on 11-14-07

Name a Star from $29.95
Get your official star package not a cheap email printout!
www.BuyTheStars.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Phil,<br />
It&#8217;s pretty funny that the google ad on this page is for naming a star&#8230;.<br />
NOT!<br />
( I know you have no control over it, but still!!!!)</p>
<p>From the <a href="http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/02/14/star-scammery/" rel="nofollow">http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/02/14/star-scammery/</a><br />
page on 11-14-07</p>
<p>Name a Star from $29.95<br />
Get your official star package not a cheap email printout!<br />
<a href="http://www.BuyTheStars.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.BuyTheStars.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: C.P.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30263</link>
		<dc:creator>C.P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine what it&#039;s like working at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory. Many of these companies use a star catalog developed by SAO 30-plus years ago and slap our name on their website to imply that we approve of their shady practices. I&#039;m told the Smithsonian lawyers elected not to pursue the matter. I wish to heck they would. I&#039;ve also had to field calls and e-mails from grieving family members, although usually they are asking if the company is legit prior to making a purchase. I wonder if the FTC could make them take down the Smithsonian name, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine what it&#8217;s like working at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory. Many of these companies use a star catalog developed by SAO 30-plus years ago and slap our name on their website to imply that we approve of their shady practices. I&#8217;m told the Smithsonian lawyers elected not to pursue the matter. I wish to heck they would. I&#8217;ve also had to field calls and e-mails from grieving family members, although usually they are asking if the company is legit prior to making a purchase. I wonder if the FTC could make them take down the Smithsonian name, too?</p>
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		<title>By: csrster</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30262</link>
		<dc:creator>csrster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Five years later and it still irks me that my sisters thought that a good congratulation-present for our firstborn would be an ISR star. Given that both my wife and I are PhD astronomers we would rather have poked our own eyes out than allow any of our friends to know about it so we hid the certificate away in the back of a cupboard (in case my sisters turned up and wanted to see it). When we moved house last year it &quot;mysteriously&quot; disappeared.

Oh, and ISR spelt my daughter&#039;s middle name wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Five years later and it still irks me that my sisters thought that a good congratulation-present for our firstborn would be an ISR star. Given that both my wife and I are PhD astronomers we would rather have poked our own eyes out than allow any of our friends to know about it so we hid the certificate away in the back of a cupboard (in case my sisters turned up and wanted to see it). When we moved house last year it &#8220;mysteriously&#8221; disappeared.</p>
<p>Oh, and ISR spelt my daughter&#8217;s middle name wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30261</link>
		<dc:creator>John W. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;FYI, itâ€™s no longer CSICOP. They recently changed their name to the Committee for Skeptical Investigation (CSI). CSICOP was such a mouthful to sound out that it was cumbersome for media activities.&quot;

Besides, people kept expecting them to turn up in black uniforms, wear gloves indoors, and make inexplicable allusions to &quot;The Prisoner&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;FYI, itâ€™s no longer CSICOP. They recently changed their name to the Committee for Skeptical Investigation (CSI). CSICOP was such a mouthful to sound out that it was cumbersome for media activities.&#8221;</p>
<p>Besides, people kept expecting them to turn up in black uniforms, wear gloves indoors, and make inexplicable allusions to &#8220;The Prisoner&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lunatik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30260</link>
		<dc:creator>Lunatik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fraud is fraud.


  This practice (selling star cor.) is as bad as that of the nutcase S. B., Uri G., ect.  They prey on the weak-minded and gulible of society.


   String them up!!!  There are laws about fraudulent activitites.


   Lunatik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraud is fraud.</p>
<p>  This practice (selling star cor.) is as bad as that of the nutcase S. B., Uri G., ect.  They prey on the weak-minded and gulible of society.</p>
<p>   String them up!!!  There are laws about fraudulent activitites.</p>
<p>   Lunatik</p>
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		<title>By: KellyT</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30259</link>
		<dc:creator>KellyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why hasn&#039;t anyone addressed the most obvious problem with naming
your own star?  What if the aliens who already live there think we&#039;re
trying to take them over by claiming their star with a person&#039;s name?!!

And here come the battle fleets!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why hasn&#8217;t anyone addressed the most obvious problem with naming<br />
your own star?  What if the aliens who already live there think we&#8217;re<br />
trying to take them over by claiming their star with a person&#8217;s name?!!</p>
<p>And here come the battle fleets!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Maruyama</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30258</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur Maruyama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um...am I the first to note that some amount of effort has gone into trying to find BA&#039;s ISR star photo, when he did just post a link to an effort trying to find Beagle 2 on Mars?



(OK, I admit it...I did spend about a half-hour scouring the pics trying to find a match :-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230;am I the first to note that some amount of effort has gone into trying to find BA&#8217;s ISR star photo, when he did just post a link to an effort trying to find Beagle 2 on Mars?</p>
<p>(OK, I admit it&#8230;I did spend about a half-hour scouring the pics trying to find a match <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Astronomer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30257</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bad Astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Squid, the constellation of Cetus is the Sea Monster, and it&#039;s not clear what it really is. Most people depict it as a whale, but I don&#039;t think that&#039;s really canon. So there you go.

Also, the claim I have heard is that with binocs you can see slightly fainter than you can if you had a lens of the same size (depending on the exact characteristics of the binocs). There are companies that make binocular telescopes (JMI for example) where you might be able to find out more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Squid, the constellation of Cetus is the Sea Monster, and it&#8217;s not clear what it really is. Most people depict it as a whale, but I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s really canon. So there you go.</p>
<p>Also, the claim I have heard is that with binocs you can see slightly fainter than you can if you had a lens of the same size (depending on the exact characteristics of the binocs). There are companies that make binocular telescopes (JMI for example) where you might be able to find out more.</p>
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		<title>By: Evolving Squid</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30256</link>
		<dc:creator>Evolving Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, here&#039;s a serious question for BA (or anyone who might know).  I&#039;ve tried to find this on the net, without success.

There is a formula for finding the limiting magnitude of a telescope.  The link in the previous post can do the calculation.

The question is whether or not binoculars have the same limiting magnitude as a telescope with an objective equal to one side of the binoculars, or both combined or somewhere in the middle.

i.e. my medium binos have 3&quot; objectives.  Are they equivalent to a 3&quot; telescope for limiting magnitude, or a 6&quot; telescope, or something in between.  Presumably either side would be the same as a 3&quot; scope for limiting magnitude, but since nobody closes one eye to use binos, I can conjecture that it might be different.

Thoughts? wisdom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, here&#8217;s a serious question for BA (or anyone who might know).  I&#8217;ve tried to find this on the net, without success.</p>
<p>There is a formula for finding the limiting magnitude of a telescope.  The link in the previous post can do the calculation.</p>
<p>The question is whether or not binoculars have the same limiting magnitude as a telescope with an objective equal to one side of the binoculars, or both combined or somewhere in the middle.</p>
<p>i.e. my medium binos have 3&#8243; objectives.  Are they equivalent to a 3&#8243; telescope for limiting magnitude, or a 6&#8243; telescope, or something in between.  Presumably either side would be the same as a 3&#8243; scope for limiting magnitude, but since nobody closes one eye to use binos, I can conjecture that it might be different.</p>
<p>Thoughts? wisdom?</p>
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		<title>By: Evolving Squid</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30255</link>
		<dc:creator>Evolving Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A back-of-the napkin calculation says I can see the 10th magnitude Plait star in my largest binos and with my telescope, and maybe with my medium binos if I&#039;m in a really dark place on a night with good seeing.

http://www.go.ednet.ns.ca/~larry/astro/maglimit.html is a handy link.

I&#039;ve never noted that there are any stars or constellations named after cephalopods.  The heavens are lacking indeed.

I took my medium binos with me on my recent trip to Death Valley.  Man, to be out in a place with actual dark sky for a change was so awesome.  When you live in the city it&#039;s hard to remember what the sky really does look like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A back-of-the napkin calculation says I can see the 10th magnitude Plait star in my largest binos and with my telescope, and maybe with my medium binos if I&#8217;m in a really dark place on a night with good seeing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.go.ednet.ns.ca/~larry/astro/maglimit.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.go.ednet.ns.ca/~larry/astro/maglimit.html</a> is a handy link.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never noted that there are any stars or constellations named after cephalopods.  The heavens are lacking indeed.</p>
<p>I took my medium binos with me on my recent trip to Death Valley.  Man, to be out in a place with actual dark sky for a change was so awesome.  When you live in the city it&#8217;s hard to remember what the sky really does look like.</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30254</link>
		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notwithstanding the above, I reckon that the image *may* be there, and all the flippin&#039; and &#039;shoppin&#039; will be to no avail if what they have done is layered two or more sky photos, and purport that this is &#039;your&#039; piece of the sky.

The problem now is to deduce where and what the extraneous image(s) could be.

Interesting problem. (Hey, have we got an idea for a weekly competition?).

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notwithstanding the above, I reckon that the image *may* be there, and all the flippin&#8217; and &#8216;shoppin&#8217; will be to no avail if what they have done is layered two or more sky photos, and purport that this is &#8216;your&#8217; piece of the sky.</p>
<p>The problem now is to deduce where and what the extraneous image(s) could be.</p>
<p>Interesting problem. (Hey, have we got an idea for a weekly competition?).</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30253</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rotate Phil&#039;s image 90 degrees clockwise, then flip it right-to-left (as if looking at it in a mirror), then reduce the brightness to black out most of the dimmer stars and compare the &quot;stars.gif&quot; image to the left edge center of the rotated-and-flipped image (what would be the top center of Phil&#039;s original).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rotate Phil&#8217;s image 90 degrees clockwise, then flip it right-to-left (as if looking at it in a mirror), then reduce the brightness to black out most of the dimmer stars and compare the &#8220;stars.gif&#8221; image to the left edge center of the rotated-and-flipped image (what would be the top center of Phil&#8217;s original).</p>
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		<title>By: Irishman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30252</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, it&#039;s no longer CSICOP.  They recently changed their name to the Committee for Skeptical Investigation (CSI).  CSICOP was such a mouthful to sound out that it was cumbersome for media activities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, it&#8217;s no longer CSICOP.  They recently changed their name to the Committee for Skeptical Investigation (CSI).  CSICOP was such a mouthful to sound out that it was cumbersome for media activities.</p>
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		<title>By: gopher65</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30251</link>
		<dc:creator>gopher65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found five groups of stars that came close, but none that matched exactly (who&#039;d have thunk that those many boring hours in astro labs would actually come in handy?:P). I don&#039;t think it is the same picture. They probably didn&#039;t like your picture, so they did an archive search for a pic in the same area of the sky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found five groups of stars that came close, but none that matched exactly (who&#8217;d have thunk that those many boring hours in astro labs would actually come in handy?:P). I don&#8217;t think it is the same picture. They probably didn&#8217;t like your picture, so they did an archive search for a pic in the same area of the sky.</p>
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		<title>By: Bwian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30250</link>
		<dc:creator>Bwian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, my official guess is rotated 180, in the middle of the second image.</description>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/02/14/star-scammery/comment-page-1/#comment-30249</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When i first saw the ISR image, i thought it was this exact star field that i had studied about a year ago.  It had two similar features in common with my star field.  It isn&#039;t, though. Just goes to show you that your mind can play tricks on you when you look at star fields.

I tried rotating pieces of the image, etc.  I&#039;m going to go out on a limb and say that they aren&#039;t covering the same area.  I don&#039;t supposed they told you the angular size of that image they posted.  You could take any triangle pattern of three stars from anywhere in the sky, with very few other identifying features, and you could probably &quot;almost&quot; get it to match up with any star field with enough stars in it.

My high school girlfriend bought me a star.  She decided to save herself 50 dollars by buying it un-framed.  She then decided to nag me incessantly until i took it to a framing shop and got it framed myself.  Yeah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When i first saw the ISR image, i thought it was this exact star field that i had studied about a year ago.  It had two similar features in common with my star field.  It isn&#8217;t, though. Just goes to show you that your mind can play tricks on you when you look at star fields.</p>
<p>I tried rotating pieces of the image, etc.  I&#8217;m going to go out on a limb and say that they aren&#8217;t covering the same area.  I don&#8217;t supposed they told you the angular size of that image they posted.  You could take any triangle pattern of three stars from anywhere in the sky, with very few other identifying features, and you could probably &#8220;almost&#8221; get it to match up with any star field with enough stars in it.</p>
<p>My high school girlfriend bought me a star.  She decided to save herself 50 dollars by buying it un-framed.  She then decided to nag me incessantly until i took it to a framing shop and got it framed myself.  Yeah.</p>
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		<title>By: Melusine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melusine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like, who doesn&#039;t already know your middle name? Actually, it&#039;s a nice name.

My sister mentioned that they thought of doing a star naming thing for me. I politely told them I would prefer that they buy me another year&#039;s membership to &lt;b&gt;The Planetary Society&lt;/b&gt; or something similar, or as &lt;b&gt;Beche-la-mer&lt;/b&gt; said, if the funds were going to the observatory operations, that would be fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like, who doesn&#8217;t already know your middle name? Actually, it&#8217;s a nice name.</p>
<p>My sister mentioned that they thought of doing a star naming thing for me. I politely told them I would prefer that they buy me another year&#8217;s membership to <b>The Planetary Society</b> or something similar, or as <b>Beche-la-mer</b> said, if the funds were going to the observatory operations, that would be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: spacewriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>spacewriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote about the starnaming scam on my blog a few days ago in a commentary about Valentine&#039;s Day gifts.

When I was working at the planetarium back in my grad school days I&#039;d hate it, too, when the folks came in wanting to see &#039;their&#039; stars -- and they&#039;d show me this crappily photocopied star chart purporting to show how to find the star. One of them looked like the star had been drawn in with a pen!

I remember one woman coming in (and this is the one that started me on my road to denouncing the star registry folks because it was their product) who had gotten a nice certificate showing that a mourner had named a star after her late husband. She was so touched that she wanted to see &quot;Bob&#039;s&quot; (not his real name) star and wanted us to show it to her.  The chart was a lousy photocopy with the  name International Star Registry on it.  The &quot;star&quot; was a blob of ink.   The letter accompanying the &quot;chart&quot; seemed to indicate that all astronomers would refer to the star in their research as &quot;Bob&#039;s&quot; star and that her husband would be immortalized in this way.

These scumbags were capitalizing on a woman&#039;s grief, fer cryin&#039; out loud! And lying, to boot.

Since that time they&#039;ve changed their tune slightly, but they&#039;re still trying to imply that their product is &quot;official&quot; and they&#039;re still not being truthful about it.  I can&#039;t countenance that and I warn people away from such products at every chance.

Now, I have seen fundraisers for planetarium facilities that sell stars off the dome -- which, if they make it clear that that&#039;s what they&#039;re doing -- is fine with me. But, I don&#039;t want anybody to be fooled into thinking they&#039;re name a star officially, and I certainly don&#039;t approve of charging people $50 bucks or whatever it is now for a crappy photocopy and a packet full of promises that turn out to be nothing more than snake oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote about the starnaming scam on my blog a few days ago in a commentary about Valentine&#8217;s Day gifts.</p>
<p>When I was working at the planetarium back in my grad school days I&#8217;d hate it, too, when the folks came in wanting to see &#8216;their&#8217; stars &#8212; and they&#8217;d show me this crappily photocopied star chart purporting to show how to find the star. One of them looked like the star had been drawn in with a pen!</p>
<p>I remember one woman coming in (and this is the one that started me on my road to denouncing the star registry folks because it was their product) who had gotten a nice certificate showing that a mourner had named a star after her late husband. She was so touched that she wanted to see &#8220;Bob&#8217;s&#8221; (not his real name) star and wanted us to show it to her.  The chart was a lousy photocopy with the  name International Star Registry on it.  The &#8220;star&#8221; was a blob of ink.   The letter accompanying the &#8220;chart&#8221; seemed to indicate that all astronomers would refer to the star in their research as &#8220;Bob&#8217;s&#8221; star and that her husband would be immortalized in this way.</p>
<p>These scumbags were capitalizing on a woman&#8217;s grief, fer cryin&#8217; out loud! And lying, to boot.</p>
<p>Since that time they&#8217;ve changed their tune slightly, but they&#8217;re still trying to imply that their product is &#8220;official&#8221; and they&#8217;re still not being truthful about it.  I can&#8217;t countenance that and I warn people away from such products at every chance.</p>
<p>Now, I have seen fundraisers for planetarium facilities that sell stars off the dome &#8212; which, if they make it clear that that&#8217;s what they&#8217;re doing &#8212; is fine with me. But, I don&#8217;t want anybody to be fooled into thinking they&#8217;re name a star officially, and I certainly don&#8217;t approve of charging people $50 bucks or whatever it is now for a crappy photocopy and a packet full of promises that turn out to be nothing more than snake oil.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.joshuamcharles.com/isr_mystar_thumb_perhaps_.jpg

I took the two images into photoshop just to see how they fit up.  The three brightest scale down perfectly to fit on top, but the others do not line up.  I believe the only remaining solution is that they was a heavily edited picture.</description>
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<p>I took the two images into photoshop just to see how they fit up.  The three brightest scale down perfectly to fit on top, but the others do not line up.  I believe the only remaining solution is that they was a heavily edited picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Ausrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ausrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks to me at a glance to be the section two thirds down and on the right, rotated CCW 90 Degrees and adjusted for brightness/contrast.  But if it seems to be this hard, I&#039;m probably wrong. :(

About star names, instead of spending money to buy a star that nobody can see, you could always name your children something like Fomalhaut or Spica! That way they are named after a star everyone can see.  It&#039;s kinda the same thing, a great conversation piece, and if they don&#039;t hate you for getting made fun of in school too much, they might grow up to love science! :) By the way I actually tried this line of reasoning but my wife wasn&#039;t convinced.  If my super-nerdy friends can convince their wives to name their poor children after their D&amp;D characters or in Elvish, I thought a star name sounded like a plausible idea, I mean why not? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks to me at a glance to be the section two thirds down and on the right, rotated CCW 90 Degrees and adjusted for brightness/contrast.  But if it seems to be this hard, I&#8217;m probably wrong. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>About star names, instead of spending money to buy a star that nobody can see, you could always name your children something like Fomalhaut or Spica! That way they are named after a star everyone can see.  It&#8217;s kinda the same thing, a great conversation piece, and if they don&#8217;t hate you for getting made fun of in school too much, they might grow up to love science! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  By the way I actually tried this line of reasoning but my wife wasn&#8217;t convinced.  If my super-nerdy friends can convince their wives to name their poor children after their D&amp;D characters or in Elvish, I thought a star name sounded like a plausible idea, I mean why not? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bryan D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I&#039;m not too sure about your star, but if you look at sector 7-G you can clearly see that aliens have arranged the stars in the shape of a face. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I&#8217;m not too sure about your star, but if you look at sector 7-G you can clearly see that aliens have arranged the stars in the shape of a face. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aubri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aubri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you rotate the newspaper image 180 degrees, there&#039;s a triangle of stars with what looks like that dimmer cluster just above center.  However, because of the other stars as others have noted, I&#039;m suspicious that they printed a different image of the same piece of sky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you rotate the newspaper image 180 degrees, there&#8217;s a triangle of stars with what looks like that dimmer cluster just above center.  However, because of the other stars as others have noted, I&#8217;m suspicious that they printed a different image of the same piece of sky.</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W. Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their ads don&#039;t mention the Library of Congress anymore -- now they mention the Copyright Office.

Frankly, I cannot control my rage at these bastards. They&#039;re nothing but sociopathic professional criminals who should have been prosecuted years ago under RICO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their ads don&#8217;t mention the Library of Congress anymore &#8212; now they mention the Copyright Office.</p>
<p>Frankly, I cannot control my rage at these bastards. They&#8217;re nothing but sociopathic professional criminals who should have been prosecuted years ago under RICO.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.C.P. says:

&quot;what they printed kinda sorta looks like the field with my star in it, but danged if I can figure out what they did. Cropped, rotated, distorted?&quot;

I think the word you&#039;re fumbling for is &#039;photoshopped&#039;  ;-)
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<p>&#8220;what they printed kinda sorta looks like the field with my star in it, but danged if I can figure out what they did. Cropped, rotated, distorted?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the word you&#8217;re fumbling for is &#8216;photoshopped&#8217;  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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