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	<title>Comments on: Why I don&#8217;t &#8220;believe&#8221; in UFOs: the Phoenix Lights</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off the pheonix lights have been sighted multiple times, dating before and after March 13th, 1997.  Could some of the video been flares?  I&#039;m sure, but that does nothing to explain why over 10,000 people say they saw this craft. I&#039;m sure residents of the area are quite familiar with planes,  and flares if it&#039;s such a routine thing in the area. It does nothing to explain the 1000&#039;s of phone calls authorities recieved that night either. Or why the former governer of arizona says he saw this thing, along with literally 1000&#039;s of reputable people. Say what you will, but honestly the evidense of ufo&#039;s is overwhelming. A phenomenon dating back to mankinds conception. The flare drop that was demonstrated some years later to dismiss the pheonix lights has been analyzed from many angles and in no way matches up to the lights.  A formation of planes?  Why would thousands report seeing this craft in great detail if it was a routine fly-over?  Or should we take into account that the one report by a citizen saying they were planes that came out of that was by a boy with a telescope. But the former long time governer is going to risk being called insane for saying he saw it to? Regardless of what other affairs he may have been involved in.  And those of you who say you saw planes why haven&#039;t you come forward to the public? Why is the explanation so shallow, and have so many holes?  I&#039;m not saying no-one saw any planes that night, but the 100&#039;s of tapes that exist and testimonials would suggest there is no way people didn&#039;t see this craft.  Also why would the air-force not respond to such a simple question with haste?  People wanted to know what they saw, and it took them a very substantial amount of time to respond. Flares and planes?  I think many arizona resident&#039;s intelligence is being insulted here. This phenomenon is far from isolated. They have been reported in every part of the world for thousands of years. Ranging from one witness to entire cities. Events which just cannot be explained. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off the pheonix lights have been sighted multiple times, dating before and after March 13th, 1997.  Could some of the video been flares?  I&#8217;m sure, but that does nothing to explain why over 10,000 people say they saw this craft. I&#8217;m sure residents of the area are quite familiar with planes,  and flares if it&#8217;s such a routine thing in the area. It does nothing to explain the 1000&#8217;s of phone calls authorities recieved that night either. Or why the former governer of arizona says he saw this thing, along with literally 1000&#8217;s of reputable people. Say what you will, but honestly the evidense of ufo&#8217;s is overwhelming. A phenomenon dating back to mankinds conception. The flare drop that was demonstrated some years later to dismiss the pheonix lights has been analyzed from many angles and in no way matches up to the lights.  A formation of planes?  Why would thousands report seeing this craft in great detail if it was a routine fly-over?  Or should we take into account that the one report by a citizen saying they were planes that came out of that was by a boy with a telescope. But the former long time governer is going to risk being called insane for saying he saw it to? Regardless of what other affairs he may have been involved in.  And those of you who say you saw planes why haven&#8217;t you come forward to the public? Why is the explanation so shallow, and have so many holes?  I&#8217;m not saying no-one saw any planes that night, but the 100&#8217;s of tapes that exist and testimonials would suggest there is no way people didn&#8217;t see this craft.  Also why would the air-force not respond to such a simple question with haste?  People wanted to know what they saw, and it took them a very substantial amount of time to respond. Flares and planes?  I think many arizona resident&#8217;s intelligence is being insulted here. This phenomenon is far from isolated. They have been reported in every part of the world for thousands of years. Ranging from one witness to entire cities. Events which just cannot be explained.</p>
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		<title>By: does not matter</title>
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		<dc:creator>does not matter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are real...,i seen them too.and i dont live in pheonix..
real ufos..,and i mean the ones from other places..,agartha,etc...,
they only show themselves to spiritualy ready people...,or entitys who have been watched carefully...this ufo story is a long,loong and painfull story...
i dont expect no one to belive..,but theres someone out there who knows what im talking about...
yall have a good life now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are real&#8230;,i seen them too.and i dont live in pheonix..<br />
real ufos..,and i mean the ones from other places..,agartha,etc&#8230;,<br />
they only show themselves to spiritualy ready people&#8230;,or entitys who have been watched carefully&#8230;this ufo story is a long,loong and painfull story&#8230;<br />
i dont expect no one to belive..,but theres someone out there who knows what im talking about&#8230;<br />
yall have a good life now</p>
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		<title>By: RKC38</title>
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		<dc:creator>RKC38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“We’re such intelligence creatures of the Universe. Just look at who we twice elected as President.”

I know you meant that sarcastically, and I agree he&#039;s a real doofus, but take heart - he got less than 50% of the vote both times and wouldn&#039;t have been elected in the first place if Ross Perot hadn&#039;t split the republican vote in &#039;92.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We’re such intelligence creatures of the Universe. Just look at who we twice elected as President.”</p>
<p>I know you meant that sarcastically, and I agree he&#8217;s a real doofus, but take heart &#8211; he got less than 50% of the vote both times and wouldn&#8217;t have been elected in the first place if Ross Perot hadn&#8217;t split the republican vote in &#8216;92.</p>
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		<title>By: vaskees</title>
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		<dc:creator>vaskees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg. im just doing a essay the teacher told me to do :/ Pff boring! &amp; UFOs r kool &gt;.&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg. im just doing a essay the teacher told me to do :/ Pff boring! &#038; UFOs r kool >.></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, well, well.    Did anyone here who is writing actually see the lights?  NOT the flares.  the flying, chevron-shaped light formation that flew that evening?   I did.  It flew over me.   I was travelling that night from Phoenix back to Prescott where I live.   Anyone who has driven that route knows where I am talking about.   A set of brilliant lights appeared on the horizon as I approached Sunset Point.  I thought to myself, &quot;What is a B-52 doing landing out here?&quot;  The lights came south as I drove north.  I pulled off the road just south of Cordes Jct.  In silence, the now dim lights flew overhead, then winked off.   Aliens?  No.  A mysterious and as yet unknown aircraft from the depths of Nevada?  Probably.
Response?  Anyone heard of this side of the lights?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, well, well.    Did anyone here who is writing actually see the lights?  NOT the flares.  the flying, chevron-shaped light formation that flew that evening?   I did.  It flew over me.   I was travelling that night from Phoenix back to Prescott where I live.   Anyone who has driven that route knows where I am talking about.   A set of brilliant lights appeared on the horizon as I approached Sunset Point.  I thought to myself, &#8220;What is a B-52 doing landing out here?&#8221;  The lights came south as I drove north.  I pulled off the road just south of Cordes Jct.  In silence, the now dim lights flew overhead, then winked off.   Aliens?  No.  A mysterious and as yet unknown aircraft from the depths of Nevada?  Probably.<br />
Response?  Anyone heard of this side of the lights?</p>
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		<title>By: Lenoxus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenoxus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe, just maybe, we’re not the only intelligent life in the Universe. Ouch! I said it. … But, no, it’s too “weird” to think there are others in the Universe that have solved the problem of flight.&quot;

The thing is, I agree that that idea — the existence of ETIs — is quite probably the case. But as a skeptic, I feel somewhat put off by being told that I patronize our hypothetical galactic brethren. The thing of it is not that I don&#039;t think they could possibly have traveled here; what I find unlikely is that they have traveled here in apparent secrecy. Why haven&#039;t they made their presence clearer? What possible motive do they have for only appearing to select people at select times, and not in a way that clearly states &quot;Here we are!&quot; (Or to repeat the above from &quot;hmh&quot;, &quot;that proving moment when we all go outside in broad daylight and look out in the sky all at once and soil ourselves because this massive thing is hovering over our heads and we all know that it&#039;s for real and wish we hadn’t.&quot; Brilliant, I might add.)

&quot;We’re such intelligence creatures of the Universe. Just look at who we twice elected as President.&quot;

And look what planet has a majority of countries that tend to disagree with that President (of the USA, remember, not of Earth). Somewhat more heartening, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe, just maybe, we’re not the only intelligent life in the Universe. Ouch! I said it. … But, no, it’s too “weird” to think there are others in the Universe that have solved the problem of flight.&#8221;</p>
<p>The thing is, I agree that that idea — the existence of ETIs — is quite probably the case. But as a skeptic, I feel somewhat put off by being told that I patronize our hypothetical galactic brethren. The thing of it is not that I don&#8217;t think they could possibly have traveled here; what I find unlikely is that they have traveled here in apparent secrecy. Why haven&#8217;t they made their presence clearer? What possible motive do they have for only appearing to select people at select times, and not in a way that clearly states &#8220;Here we are!&#8221; (Or to repeat the above from &#8220;hmh&#8221;, &#8220;that proving moment when we all go outside in broad daylight and look out in the sky all at once and soil ourselves because this massive thing is hovering over our heads and we all know that it&#8217;s for real and wish we hadn’t.&#8221; Brilliant, I might add.)</p>
<p>&#8220;We’re such intelligence creatures of the Universe. Just look at who we twice elected as President.&#8221;</p>
<p>And look what planet has a majority of countries that tend to disagree with that President (of the USA, remember, not of Earth). Somewhat more heartening, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Ridpath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Ridpath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Says Seth: &quot;For those who believe all UFO sightings can be explained away as simply flares falling in a formation string, I suggest you check out the Rendlesham sightings of December 1980 and try to explain THAT away.&quot;

I can&#039;t believe you are still using that as an example. It&#039;s been a dead (or at least seriously wounded) case for years. Start at
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendlesham.htm
and find what the UFO believers are not telling you...

It&#039;s because of cases like this that we need Bad Astronomy to encourage critical thinking.

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Says Seth: &#8220;For those who believe all UFO sightings can be explained away as simply flares falling in a formation string, I suggest you check out the Rendlesham sightings of December 1980 and try to explain THAT away.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe you are still using that as an example. It&#8217;s been a dead (or at least seriously wounded) case for years. Start at<br />
<a href="http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendlesham.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendlesham.htm</a><br />
and find what the UFO believers are not telling you&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s because of cases like this that we need Bad Astronomy to encourage critical thinking.</p>
<p>Ian</p>
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