“So we have another representative in Congress ignorant of reality, he assumes God doesn’t exist. We are the product of chance acording to him. I can’t believe the stupidity! It doesn’t say much about the electorate that elected him. They are just as ignorant as he is.”

And when you group a whole load of non-believers together by calling them “stupid”, you have the gall to say that they are the ones being hostile and you just say that you’re “naive”? Well, I could probably agree with you on that one, fundamentalism can breed naivete of the worst kind. Along with the arrogance of thinking that your opinion is better than anyone else’s. If you didn’t think that your opinion was better than anyone else’s you could have explained yourself by answering my questions.

I’m sure you can say I’m arrogant, and heck, maybe you’re right – I’m also stubborn and opinionated when I want to be. I know I’m flawed, but I also know that Jesus ain’t telling me where to improve. If anyone it would be the FSM (praise the Lord, Ramen). But we’re not really getting anywhere here, and Phil is probably getting sick of having to moderate this old thread that everyone else has forgotten about while we’re still here bickering like a couple of daft gits. I’m sure that we’ll both have plenty of opportunities to express differing opinions in the future. See ya around.

I’ve neither “preached”, nor “whined”. I’ve expressed my opinion. You contradict yourself by calling my opinion, “preaching”. Further, my opinion, you call “whining”, when the hostility is an obvious fact. It is truly unfortunate that naivete is met with such defensive hostility. I’ll keep the hostility in mind should I express an opinion on any future BA blog.

Quote: “You’ve got Jesus by your side telling you you’re always right, right?” Wrong! Jesus is telling me where I need improvement, and you too.

Quote: “You are as human as the rest of us..” Pardon me while I enjoy a good belly laugh at that one. Gee, I didn’t know I was merely human! Job had said, “…All the days of my hard service I will wait, Till my change comes.” Job: 14:14. Whoops, another relevent quotation!!! I suspect this one is over your head!!! Oh, and by the way, I’m not preaching, I’m just quoting since you say I’m “just as human as the rest of us”.

You read a lot into my comments that really isn’t there. You and I will never agree!!! For sure.

I could say the same, however in the end, that’s just me and you stating our opinions.

“Thanks for confirming that Jesus was right”

For you maybe. And that’s fine. Like I said, not everyone here is interested. If we wanted to listen to preaching, we’d go to the appropriate forum. So if you’ve finished whining, perhaps you could answer my questions? I’ll remind you of them if you’ve forgotten.

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You said:

“So we have another representative in Congress ignorant of reality, he assumes God doesn’t exist. We are the product of chance acording to him. I can’t believe the stupidity!”

And the reason he’s not entitled to his religious opinions is… ? Also, other than stating he is a non-theist, has he made any indication that he wants to use his position to force his own personal philosophies onto anyone else? Then you said:

“It doesn’t say much about the electorate that elected him. They are just as ignorant as he is.”

About what exactly? And you are also just as ignorant to assume your opinions are better than his or anyone else’s. Why are they any better? Then you said:

“I’ve learned that expressing a pro-God view on these highly biased blogs is like placing raw flesh in a south American river containing Piranha fish. Immediately attacked.”

I’m sorry you feel that way, but I simply have a different point of view than you do and so therefore I asked these questions. So, nearly 3 weeks later and I still haven’t had any answers. All I’ve had is complaints about your “ill treatment”. But hey, you’ll survive. You’ve got Jesus by your side telling you you’re always right, right?. So, do you have an answer to back up your original opinions? Until then, remember that your opinions are just exactly that. Your opinions. They are no better than Stark’s or mine or anyone else’s. You are as human as the rest of us, whatever ‘reality’ you think you live in.

“You complain of my quoting literature, what is wrong with that?”

I wasn’t really complaining as such, just pointing out that it’s just pointless quoting non-relevant literature around. But If you think that makes you look smart, then you carry on.

“I don’t offer my personal beliefs based upon Jesus’ advice.”

Okay, but you sure like to preach the Bible alot. As if any here are really interested. Remember, this is a science forum.

“Your real desire is to “tear me to pieces”, as He said. I can see through you like I can see through a pane of glass.”

And now we’re back to the old martyr complex again. Round and round in circles we go. That’s all you seem to be here for, to complain about science you don’t like (we don’t care) and then complain that we are all hostile towards you for making flawed, bad points because of your lack of understanding of the scientific method or making absolutely no point at all. If you really want to make a point, you could argue your original case you made on this thread and answer my damn questions. Because so far on this thread you have only been blowing out hot air. If I am only here to “tear you to pieces” then, for God’s sake, stop making it so easy.