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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: complex_field</title>
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		<dc:creator>complex_field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope John23 is just playing Devil&#039;s Advocate, because one could easily conclude that he(?) is a....uhm, well, let&#039;s just say that MY mom taught me better than to make gross generalizations, not to be outright insulting, not to engage in gender stereotyping....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope John23 is just playing Devil&#8217;s Advocate, because one could easily conclude that he(?) is a&#8230;.uhm, well, let&#8217;s just say that MY mom taught me better than to make gross generalizations, not to be outright insulting, not to engage in gender stereotyping&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reader, would you rather have &quot;the editor&quot; blatantly alter or censor what&#039;s written here? If some people want to be silly with their comments, that&#039;s a reflection on those particular people. Leaving the comments up may look to you like someone&#039;s condoning that sort of behavior, but to me it sends a clear signal that (barring diliberately malicious or ad hominem comments) one can post hear without fear of their comments--serious AND silly alike--being edited, twisted, or outright eliminated.

And to everyone who thinks that some of the comments are silly: yes they are. And they are bordering on offensive, IF one is sensitive to gender-based stereotypes. But the fact that on March 22, 2007, MS SARRIA HERSELF posted a comment with more grace than hurling insults at those posters with less maturity than others speaks volumes about how the rest of us should be reacting to this whole thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reader, would you rather have &#8220;the editor&#8221; blatantly alter or censor what&#8217;s written here? If some people want to be silly with their comments, that&#8217;s a reflection on those particular people. Leaving the comments up may look to you like someone&#8217;s condoning that sort of behavior, but to me it sends a clear signal that (barring diliberately malicious or ad hominem comments) one can post hear without fear of their comments&#8211;serious AND silly alike&#8211;being edited, twisted, or outright eliminated.</p>
<p>And to everyone who thinks that some of the comments are silly: yes they are. And they are bordering on offensive, IF one is sensitive to gender-based stereotypes. But the fact that on March 22, 2007, MS SARRIA HERSELF posted a comment with more grace than hurling insults at those posters with less maturity than others speaks volumes about how the rest of us should be reacting to this whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Melusine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melusine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;John23: Apparently we do live in separate realities cause the one
I am in had a high school and college where I saw most of the women go for the studs, even though so many of them were often crude, stupid, and sometimes just plain violent to women. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow, I really blew that stereotype out of the water at 16, 17 , and 18! ((-8~

&lt;b&gt;John23&lt;/b&gt;intelligence alone is not enough. Looks alone are not enough. Your stereotypical thinking is unfortunate. Again, that picture of Damaris is very nice, but in other pictures she is plain looking. There are also a lot of other attractive women at KSC (or the like) - I&#039;ve seen them in their videos. Naturally, one wants to put a &quot;best&quot; picture forward, and Phil chose a great picture of her. She looks very pretty, yes. And why not put a good picture up of her? I&#039;d certainly do the same for myself. And as far as &quot;clocks ticking,&quot; you make an assumption, again, that women are running on clocks - for what? Marriage? Kids? Some women don&#039;t want these things, but life &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; relatively short. So, knock off that chip on your shoulder and learn to know people, not compartmentalizations of them - you dig? If this is how you relate to people in &quot;real&quot; life, then consider how many people you turned off, no? Maybe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>John23: Apparently we do live in separate realities cause the one<br />
I am in had a high school and college where I saw most of the women go for the studs, even though so many of them were often crude, stupid, and sometimes just plain violent to women. </p></blockquote>
<p>Wow, I really blew that stereotype out of the water at 16, 17 , and 18! ((-8~</p>
<p><b>John23</b>intelligence alone is not enough. Looks alone are not enough. Your stereotypical thinking is unfortunate. Again, that picture of Damaris is very nice, but in other pictures she is plain looking. There are also a lot of other attractive women at KSC (or the like) &#8211; I&#8217;ve seen them in their videos. Naturally, one wants to put a &#8220;best&#8221; picture forward, and Phil chose a great picture of her. She looks very pretty, yes. And why not put a good picture up of her? I&#8217;d certainly do the same for myself. And as far as &#8220;clocks ticking,&#8221; you make an assumption, again, that women are running on clocks &#8211; for what? Marriage? Kids? Some women don&#8217;t want these things, but life <i>is</i> relatively short. So, knock off that chip on your shoulder and learn to know people, not compartmentalizations of them &#8211; you dig? If this is how you relate to people in &#8220;real&#8221; life, then consider how many people you turned off, no? Maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: John23</title>
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		<dc:creator>John23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skepted56, I have been kind and only truthful.

Apparently we do live in separate realities cause the one
I am in had a high school and college where I saw most
of the women go for the studs, even though so many of
them were often crude, stupid, and sometimes just plain
violent to women.  But they were studs, that&#039;s all that
mattered.

Did you see the ABC reality show The Average Joe?  Even
though some of the geeks were clearly better than the
himbos (one said he didn&#039;t have any books because he
wasn&#039;t into reading), the woman who had to choose between
the 2 groups of course chose the himbo, who had the
personality of cardboard but I don&#039;t think she was staring
and wondering at that part of his anatomy.

Glad you live in this wonderful nirvana where people are
judged on their merits and intelligence.  Funny, in my world,
it&#039;s the good looking idiots who seem to seize the day around
here.

This Dimaris is apparently an exception, but don&#039;t anyone
give me this b-s that if she were plain she&#039;d be featured or
discussed.

You&#039;re all a bunch of monkeys with animal instincts, despite
your pretensions otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skepted56, I have been kind and only truthful.</p>
<p>Apparently we do live in separate realities cause the one<br />
I am in had a high school and college where I saw most<br />
of the women go for the studs, even though so many of<br />
them were often crude, stupid, and sometimes just plain<br />
violent to women.  But they were studs, that&#8217;s all that<br />
mattered.</p>
<p>Did you see the ABC reality show The Average Joe?  Even<br />
though some of the geeks were clearly better than the<br />
himbos (one said he didn&#8217;t have any books because he<br />
wasn&#8217;t into reading), the woman who had to choose between<br />
the 2 groups of course chose the himbo, who had the<br />
personality of cardboard but I don&#8217;t think she was staring<br />
and wondering at that part of his anatomy.</p>
<p>Glad you live in this wonderful nirvana where people are<br />
judged on their merits and intelligence.  Funny, in my world,<br />
it&#8217;s the good looking idiots who seem to seize the day around<br />
here.</p>
<p>This Dimaris is apparently an exception, but don&#8217;t anyone<br />
give me this b-s that if she were plain she&#8217;d be featured or<br />
discussed.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re all a bunch of monkeys with animal instincts, despite<br />
your pretensions otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How typical of this blog, its editor, and  it&#039;s readers: the moment you mention a female, you all devolve to your base geek and dweeb tendencies.  And the editor leaves this all online as if to condone this behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How typical of this blog, its editor, and  it&#8217;s readers: the moment you mention a female, you all devolve to your base geek and dweeb tendencies.  And the editor leaves this all online as if to condone this behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Skepted56</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skepted56</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John23, are you totally divorced from reality? Or do you just have a latent hatred of women?

You&#039;re promoting a stereotype that those (males and females) interested in science and space exploration are normally unattractive, and those that aren&#039;t are an exception. This is just patently untrue.

 You&#039;re also implying that most attractive women do not have an interest in &quot;geeky&quot; subjects like astronomy and space exploration and that such an occurance is a rarity. This is false.

And what&#039;s it with statements like &quot;once the women have had their fun
and frolicked with the studs, say in their early 30s when the
biological clocks are starting to give off warning alarms...?&quot;

Now, since you seem to so freely speculate on the motivations of people who are not yourself, I could hypothesize the life experiences you must have gone through to arrive at such a sexist conclusion, but I will refrain because that would be crude and inappropriate, like every post you&#039;ve made on this thread.

I wish Damaris Sarria the best of luck with her goal. And not just for herself, she is helping to inspire the next generation of scientists, engineers, and astronauts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John23, are you totally divorced from reality? Or do you just have a latent hatred of women?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re promoting a stereotype that those (males and females) interested in science and space exploration are normally unattractive, and those that aren&#8217;t are an exception. This is just patently untrue.</p>
<p> You&#8217;re also implying that most attractive women do not have an interest in &#8220;geeky&#8221; subjects like astronomy and space exploration and that such an occurance is a rarity. This is false.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s it with statements like &#8220;once the women have had their fun<br />
and frolicked with the studs, say in their early 30s when the<br />
biological clocks are starting to give off warning alarms&#8230;?&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, since you seem to so freely speculate on the motivations of people who are not yourself, I could hypothesize the life experiences you must have gone through to arrive at such a sexist conclusion, but I will refrain because that would be crude and inappropriate, like every post you&#8217;ve made on this thread.</p>
<p>I wish Damaris Sarria the best of luck with her goal. And not just for herself, she is helping to inspire the next generation of scientists, engineers, and astronauts!</p>
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		<title>By: John23</title>
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		<dc:creator>John23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all the women commenting on here who are either clueless
to the following fact or are pretending to be deflect from the
issue:  Most of the males here and in the various space programs
and groups in general are geeks, got it?  That means they flip
out over anything even remotely female that happens to show
even the vaguest interest in space.  And if the said females
approach anything even resembling attractive - look out.

And let me hear from the women who go after the geeks first
for their incredible minds - yeah right.  Women are more like
men than they would care to admit, especially when it comes
to the dating/mating game.

Don&#039;t worry, geek guys - once the women have had their fun
and frolicked with the studs, say in their early 30s when the
biological clocks are starting to give off warning alarms, these
same women will settle down with the males that offer the most
stability and security.  They will deny this, of course, but just
watch and see what women go with in their 20s and then in
their 30s.  By their 40s, just about anything will do cause that
clock is already wearing out its batteries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the women commenting on here who are either clueless<br />
to the following fact or are pretending to be deflect from the<br />
issue:  Most of the males here and in the various space programs<br />
and groups in general are geeks, got it?  That means they flip<br />
out over anything even remotely female that happens to show<br />
even the vaguest interest in space.  And if the said females<br />
approach anything even resembling attractive &#8211; look out.</p>
<p>And let me hear from the women who go after the geeks first<br />
for their incredible minds &#8211; yeah right.  Women are more like<br />
men than they would care to admit, especially when it comes<br />
to the dating/mating game.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, geek guys &#8211; once the women have had their fun<br />
and frolicked with the studs, say in their early 30s when the<br />
biological clocks are starting to give off warning alarms, these<br />
same women will settle down with the males that offer the most<br />
stability and security.  They will deny this, of course, but just<br />
watch and see what women go with in their 20s and then in<br />
their 30s.  By their 40s, just about anything will do cause that<br />
clock is already wearing out its batteries.</p>
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