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	<title>Comments on: Why I love Randi, part n</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Dunc</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/04/06/why-i-love-randi-part-n/comment-page-1/#comment-34158</link>
		<dc:creator>Dunc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sticks: &lt;i&gt;I saw â€œThe Great Global Warming Swindleâ€ and the graphs showing that CO2 lagged the temperature and the graphs correlating solar activity seemed quite convincing, so what was wrong with that?&lt;/i&gt;

Well, on formal logical grounds, proof that A causes B does not tell you anything at all about whether B causes A, and it &lt;i&gt;definitely&lt;/i&gt; doesn&#039;t tell you that B &lt;i&gt;cannot&lt;/i&gt; cause A. If it did, fire wouldn&#039;t work.

Also, the situation where CO2 rises smoothly over a period of a century or more, without any geological or climate driver, can only (as far as we know) be produced by a global industrial civilisation. So unless you think that there &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; such a civilisation at some point in pre-history, it shouldn&#039;t be a surprise that you don&#039;t see its fingerprints in the paleo-climate record. No-one thinks the last ice-age ended because the neanderthals were burning too many fossil fuels.

Knowledge of climateology is not required to refute most of the claims made in TGGWS - just basic logic. And if that&#039;s the best the denialists have got, well, I&#039;m even more convinced now than I was before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sticks: <i>I saw â€œThe Great Global Warming Swindleâ€ and the graphs showing that CO2 lagged the temperature and the graphs correlating solar activity seemed quite convincing, so what was wrong with that?</i></p>
<p>Well, on formal logical grounds, proof that A causes B does not tell you anything at all about whether B causes A, and it <i>definitely</i> doesn&#8217;t tell you that B <i>cannot</i> cause A. If it did, fire wouldn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Also, the situation where CO2 rises smoothly over a period of a century or more, without any geological or climate driver, can only (as far as we know) be produced by a global industrial civilisation. So unless you think that there <i>was</i> such a civilisation at some point in pre-history, it shouldn&#8217;t be a surprise that you don&#8217;t see its fingerprints in the paleo-climate record. No-one thinks the last ice-age ended because the neanderthals were burning too many fossil fuels.</p>
<p>Knowledge of climateology is not required to refute most of the claims made in TGGWS &#8211; just basic logic. And if that&#8217;s the best the denialists have got, well, I&#8217;m even more convinced now than I was before.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/04/06/why-i-love-randi-part-n/comment-page-1/#comment-34157</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil writes:

&quot;Why I love Randi, part n

Because he loves me too, of course.&quot;

For goodness&#039; sake, just get a room, would you?!!!  ;-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;Why I love Randi, part n</p>
<p>Because he loves me too, of course.&#8221;</p>
<p>For goodness&#8217; sake, just get a room, would you?!!!  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Lurchgs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lurchgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I question whether DVDs actually exist.

As for Randi - I think he&#039;s an electronic construct from Pixar (Disney lacks the sense of humor).  No sane individual could be so rational and survive in the modern world.

Now, I&#039;m going to go buy a 14 billion jars of peanut butter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I question whether DVDs actually exist.</p>
<p>As for Randi &#8211; I think he&#8217;s an electronic construct from Pixar (Disney lacks the sense of humor).  No sane individual could be so rational and survive in the modern world.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m going to go buy a 14 billion jars of peanut butter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, a DVD? About TAM5 or about your work, Phil?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, a DVD? About TAM5 or about your work, Phil?</p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Astronomer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/04/06/why-i-love-randi-part-n/comment-page-1/#comment-34154</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bad Astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 07:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, PZ. He knows you exist. I made fun of you in front of everyone at TAM 5.

But you&#039;ll have to wait for the DVD to know for sure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, PZ. He knows you exist. I made fun of you in front of everyone at TAM 5.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;ll have to wait for the DVD to know for sure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 02:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He knows, Grasshopper,,,he sees EVERYTHING,,,Ah, Hah, hah ,hah,,, hah!

(Hard to be sardonic w/o sound effects,,,)

 Gary 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He knows, Grasshopper,,,he sees EVERYTHING,,,Ah, Hah, hah ,hah,,, hah!</p>
<p>(Hard to be sardonic w/o sound effects,,,)</p>
<p> Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: PZ Myers</title>
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		<dc:creator>PZ Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 00:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;sob&gt; He loves you, and he &lt;i&gt;doesn&#039;t even know I exist!!!&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;cue junior high school level of angst and jealousy&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;sob&gt; He loves you, and he <i>doesn&#8217;t even know I exist!!!</i></p>
<p>&lt;cue junior high school level of angst and jealousy&gt;</p>
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