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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s not a miracle!</title>
	<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/12/its-not-a-miracle/</link>
	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jakob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/12/its-not-a-miracle/#comment-36258</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly what I expected to find out after reading the title s not a miracle!. Thanks for informative article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly what I expected to find out after reading the title s not a miracle!. Thanks for informative article</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/12/its-not-a-miracle/#comment-36257</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/12/its-not-a-miracle/#comment-36257</guid>
		<description>I totally agree with you, all this superstitious nonsense makes my blood boil.  I was reading a MSN article about a womans choice to give up her baby, which was conceived through a rape, for adoption.  She knew that god protected the children and loved them and it would be against god to abort the baby she couldn't raise or keep.  Apparently god wanted the baby at whatever cost, and his benevolence blanket didn't cover her rape, but did the child that was borne out of the experience.  It makes me crazy how willfully ignorant some people are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you, all this superstitious nonsense makes my blood boil.  I was reading a MSN article about a womans choice to give up her baby, which was conceived through a rape, for adoption.  She knew that god protected the children and loved them and it would be against god to abort the baby she couldn&#8217;t raise or keep.  Apparently god wanted the baby at whatever cost, and his benevolence blanket didn&#8217;t cover her rape, but did the child that was borne out of the experience.  It makes me crazy how willfully ignorant some people are.</p>
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		<title>By: Astrolink [Global Edition] &#187; Update: Shannon Malloy &#124; Latest astronomy news in 11 languages</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/12/its-not-a-miracle/#comment-36256</link>
		<dc:creator>Astrolink [Global Edition] &#187; Update: Shannon Malloy &#124; Latest astronomy news in 11 languages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/12/its-not-a-miracle/#comment-36256</guid>
		<description>[...] It&#8217;s not often I get to post a good news follow-up to an earlier story. Regular BABloggees will no doubt remember the saga of Shannon Malloy, a young woman who was in a nasty car accident which nearly killed her. Her harrowing story was written up in a local newspaper, and I took some exception to the article&#8217;s reliance on superstition. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] It&#8217;s not often I get to post a good news follow-up to an earlier story. Regular BABloggees will no doubt remember the saga of Shannon Malloy, a young woman who was in a nasty car accident which nearly killed her. Her harrowing story was written up in a local newspaper, and I took some exception to the article&#8217;s reliance on superstition. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Astronomer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/12/its-not-a-miracle/#comment-36255</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bad Astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 05:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/12/its-not-a-miracle/#comment-36255</guid>
		<description>You have utterly missed the point. It's a silly social norm with absolutely no redeeming qualities, and in fact is a holdover from a belief in fantasy. So why continue doing it? I am quite supportive of politeness and manners, when it makes sense to have them. Otherwise, why practice them?

Customs come and go, and are forgotten when they are no longer needed. Blessing someone after they sneeze is ripe for the culling.

And I never, not once, told The Little Astronomer that kissing something would make it better.  Why would I? Kissing a wound is likely to infect it. Instead, I told her to keep her cuts clean, put a bandage over them to help make sure germs don't get in, and watch them for redness or irritation. Otherwise, don't sweat it, go outside, and keep playing.

That way, she grows up with a practical knowledge that might benefit her, and doesn't grow up already practiced in believing in fantasy, another custom that really needs to go extinct as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have utterly missed the point. It&#8217;s a silly social norm with absolutely no redeeming qualities, and in fact is a holdover from a belief in fantasy. So why continue doing it? I am quite supportive of politeness and manners, when it makes sense to have them. Otherwise, why practice them?</p>
<p>Customs come and go, and are forgotten when they are no longer needed. Blessing someone after they sneeze is ripe for the culling.</p>
<p>And I never, not once, told The Little Astronomer that kissing something would make it better.  Why would I? Kissing a wound is likely to infect it. Instead, I told her to keep her cuts clean, put a bandage over them to help make sure germs don&#8217;t get in, and watch them for redness or irritation. Otherwise, don&#8217;t sweat it, go outside, and keep playing.</p>
<p>That way, she grows up with a practical knowledge that might benefit her, and doesn&#8217;t grow up already practiced in believing in fantasy, another custom that really needs to go extinct as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Irrelevant</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/12/its-not-a-miracle/#comment-36254</link>
		<dc:creator>Irrelevant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 04:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/12/its-not-a-miracle/#comment-36254</guid>
		<description>"I have seen many people get actually irritated with me when I donâ€™t say â€œBless you!â€ after they sneeze. Seriously. They donâ€™t really think they are expelling demons, but they are so used to people recognizing sneezes that it upsets them when I donâ€™t."


No, they don't really think they're expelling demons.

Do YOU really think that you or your friends are keeping your soul inside you when you cover your mouth while yawning?

Do YOU really think that your acquaintances, boss (if any) etc. - and yourself - need to be stealth-searched for a dagger when you shake hands with them...?


Those people (and I am not one of them)  think that you're ignoring a well-established, time-honoured social convention - and that by doing that WITHIN a social frame which relies entirely on conventions, you may be slighting them. (And it makes sense.)




If you sneeze around me, donâ€™t expect to hear me calling on superstitious nonsense t make you feel better."


How about calling on *good manners* (and good humour), to make everyone feel better - which is actually what they want?

Or, to be consistent, eliminate the "kiss it better" routine, if you have (or will have) children.

Better yet, tell all the people whose hands you need to to shake that you won't be pampering their antiquated fears of daggers.

And, by all means, feel free to yawn as widely as you can, preferably with the appropriate noises. Let others worry about the whereabouts of your soul.

I haven't checked your profile (I never do that, so it's not personal :), but you do sound like a thirteen-year old Rousseau-wannabee (and trust me, that ain't a good combination).

If that is so, then there's hope you'll grow up some day.
But for God's sake, keep your mouth well covered! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have seen many people get actually irritated with me when I donâ€™t say â€œBless you!â€ after they sneeze. Seriously. They donâ€™t really think they are expelling demons, but they are so used to people recognizing sneezes that it upsets them when I donâ€™t.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, they don&#8217;t really think they&#8217;re expelling demons.</p>
<p>Do YOU really think that you or your friends are keeping your soul inside you when you cover your mouth while yawning?</p>
<p>Do YOU really think that your acquaintances, boss (if any) etc. - and yourself - need to be stealth-searched for a dagger when you shake hands with them&#8230;?</p>
<p>Those people (and I am not one of them)  think that you&#8217;re ignoring a well-established, time-honoured social convention - and that by doing that WITHIN a social frame which relies entirely on conventions, you may be slighting them. (And it makes sense.)</p>
<p>If you sneeze around me, donâ€™t expect to hear me calling on superstitious nonsense t make you feel better.&#8221;</p>
<p>How about calling on *good manners* (and good humour), to make everyone feel better - which is actually what they want?</p>
<p>Or, to be consistent, eliminate the &#8220;kiss it better&#8221; routine, if you have (or will have) children.</p>
<p>Better yet, tell all the people whose hands you need to to shake that you won&#8217;t be pampering their antiquated fears of daggers.</p>
<p>And, by all means, feel free to yawn as widely as you can, preferably with the appropriate noises. Let others worry about the whereabouts of your soul.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t checked your profile (I never do that, so it&#8217;s not personal :), but you do sound like a thirteen-year old Rousseau-wannabee (and trust me, that ain&#8217;t a good combination).</p>
<p>If that is so, then there&#8217;s hope you&#8217;ll grow up some day.<br />
But for God&#8217;s sake, keep your mouth well covered! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Astrolink [Global Edition] &#187; Angela Gunn gets it &#124; Latest astronomy news in 11 languages</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/12/its-not-a-miracle/#comment-36253</link>
		<dc:creator>Astrolink [Global Edition] &#187; Angela Gunn gets it &#124; Latest astronomy news in 11 languages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 04:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/12/its-not-a-miracle/#comment-36253</guid>
		<description>[...] writes Tech_Space, a great blog for USA Today, is a BABloggee. She read the entries and comments on the Shannon Malloy affair (and the sequel) with some interest. I figured some other bloggers would have lived through similar [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] writes Tech_Space, a great blog for USA Today, is a BABloggee. She read the entries and comments on the Shannon Malloy affair (and the sequel) with some interest. I figured some other bloggers would have lived through similar [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/12/its-not-a-miracle/#comment-36252</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 14:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/12/its-not-a-miracle/#comment-36252</guid>
		<description>&#62;

I agree that the definition you list is listed 2nd at most sites. And I would have no problem with it IF that was the intended usage.
However, that's not how it's being used in most cases - not when they attribute the miracle to 'divine intervention', 'God', etc.
In that case, they're invoking a supernatural cause for which there is no evidence, when simple statistics can explain it satisfactorily.</description>
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<p>I agree that the definition you list is listed 2nd at most sites. And I would have no problem with it IF that was the intended usage.<br />
However, that&#8217;s not how it&#8217;s being used in most cases - not when they attribute the miracle to &#8216;divine intervention&#8217;, &#8216;God&#8217;, etc.<br />
In that case, they&#8217;re invoking a supernatural cause for which there is no evidence, when simple statistics can explain it satisfactorily.</p>
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