Comments on: Hubble finds dark matter smoke ring http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/15/hubble-finds-dark-matter-smoke-ring/ I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog. Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:22:56 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Auto Loans http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/15/hubble-finds-dark-matter-smoke-ring/comment-page-2/#comment-97995 Auto Loans Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:28:36 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/15/hubble-finds-dark-matter-smoke-ring/#comment-97995 <strong>Auto Loans</strong> Ask about bad credit auto loans to have an opportunity to buy a special Ford today by working with a marvelous office. Auto Loans

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]]> By: The Strange Milky Way « Gregory Scheckler Artworks http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/15/hubble-finds-dark-matter-smoke-ring/comment-page-2/#comment-36415 The Strange Milky Way « Gregory Scheckler Artworks Thu, 15 May 2008 16:35:20 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/15/hubble-finds-dark-matter-smoke-ring/#comment-36415 [...] — and the candidates that remain get pretty weird (like WIMPs). But we know it’s real, and we know it’s out there. We just don’t know what it is. Smart people are trying to figure that out, and given the [...] [...] — and the candidates that remain get pretty weird (like WIMPs). But we know it’s real, and we know it’s out there. We just don’t know what it is. Smart people are trying to figure that out, and given the [...]

]]> By: Kryoclasm http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/15/hubble-finds-dark-matter-smoke-ring/comment-page-2/#comment-36414 Kryoclasm Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:03:18 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/15/hubble-finds-dark-matter-smoke-ring/#comment-36414 Ok, when I look at the DM image and the regular image, all I see is a lot of very distant galaxies in the background and like 4 or 5 stars in the foreground near the middle that are warping the background objects. Notice the nice looking, but oddly stretched out, blue and whitish galaxy that must be directly behind that group of stars in the middle of the image clearly forming an Einstein ring of the galaxy around it. Am I the only one who sees this? I think the idea of this mystical exotic matter must exist because some equations say it must exist, is foolishness. The math is most likely wrong. We are dealing with how much matter must exist in a universe and we don't know how big it really is, therefore we have an open equation. This proves the whole DM theory is being driven solely off a profit motive to keep the grants coming in. Stick to real science, that means use observations and tangible evidence to find truth. Stop speculating and wasting time and money on theories that are based on math that use variables that cannot be proven! Ok, when I look at the DM image and the regular image, all I see is a lot of very distant galaxies in the background and like 4 or 5 stars in the foreground near the middle that are warping the background objects.

Notice the nice looking, but oddly stretched out, blue and whitish galaxy that must be directly behind that group of stars in the middle of the image clearly forming an Einstein ring of the galaxy around it.

Am I the only one who sees this?

I think the idea of this mystical exotic matter must exist because some equations say it must exist, is foolishness. The math is most likely wrong. We are dealing with how much matter must exist in a universe and we don’t know how big it really is, therefore we have an open equation.

This proves the whole DM theory is being driven solely off a profit motive to keep the grants coming in. Stick to real science, that means use observations and tangible evidence to find truth. Stop speculating and wasting time and money on theories that are based on math that use variables that cannot be proven!

]]> By: armchair astrochemist http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/15/hubble-finds-dark-matter-smoke-ring/comment-page-2/#comment-36413 armchair astrochemist Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:16:19 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/15/hubble-finds-dark-matter-smoke-ring/#comment-36413 Good to read Rudi's comments on the 'reality' of dark matter and an alternative explanation of those unexplained gravitational effects within and between galaxies. What concerns me is that the Dark Matter proponents either do not seem to read the literature of astronomy or are hell-bent on ignoring published work in the hope of making a big name for themselves. Why has work published from the late 1990's based on the Infrared Space Observatory and later space instruments (Spitzer), on the discovery of massive quantities of molecular hydrogen in galaxies, that accounts for the 'missing mass' problem, been ignored by these people? Unlike atomic hydrogen (easily detected by radioastronomy), cold molecular hydrogen is very difficult to detect, unless the molecule is warmed up a bit as a result of proximity to stars. It is now known that there are vast quantities of this molecule in the universe, and much of it remains 'invisible', apart from its gravitational effect. This is Baryonic matter -real stuff- not fanciful WIMPS that continue to evade unequivocal identification. Let us hear some proper discussion about this work. Good to read Rudi’s comments on the ‘reality’ of dark matter and an alternative explanation of those unexplained gravitational effects within and between galaxies. What concerns me is that the Dark Matter proponents either do not seem to read the literature of astronomy or are hell-bent on ignoring published work in the hope of making a big name for themselves. Why has work published from the late 1990’s based on the Infrared Space Observatory and later space instruments (Spitzer), on the discovery of massive quantities of molecular hydrogen in galaxies, that accounts for the ‘missing mass’ problem, been ignored by these people? Unlike atomic hydrogen (easily detected by radioastronomy), cold molecular hydrogen is very difficult to detect, unless the molecule is warmed up a bit as a result of proximity to stars. It is now known that there are vast quantities of this molecule in the universe, and much of it remains ‘invisible’, apart from its gravitational effect. This is Baryonic matter -real stuff- not fanciful WIMPS that continue to evade unequivocal identification. Let us hear some proper discussion about this work.

]]> By: Rudi Van Nieuwenhove http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/15/hubble-finds-dark-matter-smoke-ring/comment-page-2/#comment-36412 Rudi Van Nieuwenhove Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:58:10 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/15/hubble-finds-dark-matter-smoke-ring/#comment-36412 The concept of dark matter is really a very big historical blunder on which an enormous amount of time and effort has been wasted. Dark matter has never been observed, despite 60-70 years of searching. Really absolute nonsense. There exists alternatives to dark matter such as the MOND theory and my own theory (see my website and my arxiv paper: http://arxiv.org/abs/0712.1110 ) I hope to experience the day that dark matter is finally disproven and most astronomers and cosmologist have to admit with shame their dramatic mistake. The concept of dark matter is really a very big historical blunder on which an enormous amount of time and effort has been wasted. Dark matter has never been observed, despite 60-70 years of searching. Really absolute nonsense.
There exists alternatives to dark matter such as the MOND theory and my own theory (see my website and my arxiv paper: http://arxiv.org/abs/0712.1110 )

I hope to experience the day that dark matter is finally disproven and most astronomers and cosmologist have to admit with shame their dramatic mistake.

]]> By: iPhone Software » Blog Archive » 10 things you don’t know about the Milky Way Galaxy http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/15/hubble-finds-dark-matter-smoke-ring/comment-page-2/#comment-36411 iPhone Software » Blog Archive » 10 things you don’t know about the Milky Way Galaxy Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:06:09 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/05/15/hubble-finds-dark-matter-smoke-ring/#comment-36411 [...] - and the candidates that remain get pretty weird (like WIMPs). But we know it’s real, and we know it’s out there. We just don’t know what it is. Smart people are trying to figure that out, and given the [...] [...] – and the candidates that remain get pretty weird (like WIMPs). But we know it’s real, and we know it’s out there. We just don’t know what it is. Smart people are trying to figure that out, and given the [...]

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