Comments on: Shuttle launch on June 8 still on despite potential workers strike

By: aculady

aculady — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 23:26:09 +0000

Well, in Florida, which is a “Right to Work” state, there is no such thing as a “Union Shop”. The unions in this state are hardly the crushing behemoths that those in, say, the Northeast are.

Without the details, there really isn’t any way to know whether either side is being fair. Workers unionize for good cause, management detests unions for good cause, and “fair is somewhere in between – which is what contract negotiations are all about.

By: Gonzo

Gonzo — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 09:06:41 +0000

i agree with the workers…they deserve to get millions instead of the poor get poorer the rich get richer it should be the poor get richer and rich get poorer…btw i dont mind that lady loves horses enuff 2 make love to it…

By: icemith

icemith — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:52:04 +0000

DrbuzzO, not sure that showing examples which are at the extreme ends of the spectrum, is any more convincing than some of the rhetoric espoused by the usual combatants, on either side.

I always have the end game in sight when considering these strikes, because after all, one has to go back and work with the “other” side. If not, then the business fails and the employees are out of a job, and so is management.

Ivan.

By: Drbuzz0

Drbuzz0 — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 21:58:28 +0000

Wow, Gary.. it’s amazing that I’ve managed to have some pretty decent jobs without being in a union. Ever considered that the reason work conditions might have been bad would have something to do with corruption in the government, an early industrial economy, mostly uneducated workers? Of course, the over-simplistic history books will say it’s unions to the rescue!

I love this way “Distribution of Wealth” gets injected into things. Lets be a bit more accurate and replace it with “Trying to make life fair for everyone.” Yes, there are haves and have nots and some people will work hard and never become rich while others are born into it. It’s about the worst system around: Except for the others.

The “Other system” is nobody is rich (except the party bosses) and everyone has an equal distribution of poverty. They sometimes call this a “Workers paradise” and they tried it in Russia a while back. Also in china, though they’ve pretty much decided they’re not even going to bother pretending anymore/

A union is the only defense against “robber barons”? Puh-lease. Do you honestly want to get the whole class warfare thing going again? Ok sure, we can tax the rich into non existance, thus removing all incentive for enterprise and investment and assuring that nobody has a job ever.

By: stogoe

stogoe — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:54:24 +0000

I tend to side with unions until the evidence comes in, mostly because I know what management generally wants – more hours of work at less pay and fewer safety measures(ad infinitum), so they can keep more profit for themselves. A union is the only defense that the working class has against the monsters with the money, save a swift and brutal uprising against the robber barons and their worthless progeny, and nobody wants that.

By: Gary Ansorge

Gary Ansorge — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:42:16 +0000

If not for the unions, this would still be a nation of lassaiz faire capitalists, ripping off every worker and sending them into unsafe working conditions.
Progress didn’t come easily. It required sacrifices by tens of millions of workers to gain a more fair distribution of wealth. It’s easy to complain that workers want too much. The one doing that complaining usually has WAY too much,,,stuff,,,and thinks they actually deserve it.

Gary 7

By: Drbuzz0

Drbuzz0 — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 05:25:05 +0000

Oh absolutely, I think businesses ought to fire anyone who would pull that kind of BS. The problem is that Unions get special protection and they can declare a place a “Union Shop” meaning all the employees have to join the union.