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	<title>Comments on: Meta imaging</title>
	<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/</link>
	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robert Carnegie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/#comment-37638</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Carnegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 23:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/#comment-37638</guid>
		<description>In other news, it has belatedly come to the attention of the Church of England that its Manchester Cathedral has been used as level eight in [Resistance: Fall Of Man].  "The enemy are strange-looking alien invaders seeking to destroy humanity" and you have to cover the cathedral floor with bullet-riddled corpses - that isn't the specific game goal as far as I know, I'm just extrapolating.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6736809.stm

And I wonder if this image combining technology could be plugged into the U.S. military simulation of Earth for greater realism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other news, it has belatedly come to the attention of the Church of England that its Manchester Cathedral has been used as level eight in [Resistance: Fall Of Man].  &#8220;The enemy are strange-looking alien invaders seeking to destroy humanity&#8221; and you have to cover the cathedral floor with bullet-riddled corpses - that isn&#8217;t the specific game goal as far as I know, I&#8217;m just extrapolating.<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6736809.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6736809.stm</a></p>
<p>And I wonder if this image combining technology could be plugged into the U.S. military simulation of Earth for greater realism.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred M</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/#comment-37637</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 08:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/#comment-37637</guid>
		<description>Where does this possibly lead? Just take a picture of someone and you find there name and all the places and people they've been photographed with. Anything else you might want to know about them is not far behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where does this possibly lead? Just take a picture of someone and you find there name and all the places and people they&#8217;ve been photographed with. Anything else you might want to know about them is not far behind.</p>
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		<title>By: Thanny</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/#comment-37636</link>
		<dc:creator>Thanny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/#comment-37636</guid>
		<description>Credit to Microsoft research?  Let's not ignore the comment in the beginning that the bulk of the software used in the demonstration was an acquisition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Credit to Microsoft research?  Let&#8217;s not ignore the comment in the beginning that the bulk of the software used in the demonstration was an acquisition.</p>
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		<title>By: PsyberDave</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/#comment-37619</link>
		<dc:creator>PsyberDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/#comment-37619</guid>
		<description>I just figured out how to share a Photosynth view with others.  Install the Photosynth software and use this link: http://labs.live.com/photosynth/view.html?collection=all/ps/sanmarco/index1.sxs&#38;im=images/IMG_3387.sdx&#38;pos=-0.460667:-0.0379697:-0.00661491&#38;dir=0.950029:0.295655:0.100161&#38;zoom=7.69868&#38;fov=86.6636&#38;offset=0.0197798:0.120984</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just figured out how to share a Photosynth view with others.  Install the Photosynth software and use this link: <a href="http://labs.live.com/photosynth/view.html?collection=all/ps/sanmarco/index1.sxs&amp;im=images/IMG_3387.sdx&amp;pos=-0.460667:-0.0379697:-0.00661491&amp;dir=0.950029:0.295655:0.100161&amp;zoom=7.69868&amp;fov=86.6636&amp;offset=0.0197798:0.120984" rel="nofollow">http://labs.live.com/photosynth/view.html?collection=all/ps/sanmarco/index1.sxs&amp;im=images/IMG_3387.sdx&amp;pos=-0.460667:-0.0379697:-0.00661491&amp;dir=0.950029:0.295655:0.100161&amp;zoom=7.69868&amp;fov=86.6636&amp;offset=0.0197798:0.120984</a></p>
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		<title>By: PsyberDave</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/#comment-37635</link>
		<dc:creator>PsyberDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/#comment-37635</guid>
		<description>I found Steven Hawking cruising the piazza in the Photosynth demo pictures of the Piazza San Marco! See http://labs.live.com/photosynth/ as suggested by Oran_Taran.

Steven is accompanied by a guy in a red shirt and a pretty blonde lady behind him. They are just to the left and to the front of the basilica.

Wild and unexpected!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found Steven Hawking cruising the piazza in the Photosynth demo pictures of the Piazza San Marco! See <a href="http://labs.live.com/photosynth/" rel="nofollow">http://labs.live.com/photosynth/</a> as suggested by Oran_Taran.</p>
<p>Steven is accompanied by a guy in a red shirt and a pretty blonde lady behind him. They are just to the left and to the front of the basilica.</p>
<p>Wild and unexpected!</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Jaguar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/#comment-37634</link>
		<dc:creator>Dark Jaguar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/#comment-37634</guid>
		<description>This is all part of that important next step in computer programming.  Gathering data we've been able to do for years, but how well a machine can cross reference data with other data really determines what that computer can do.

Honestly the power of that software is mind boggling to me.  This must have involved thousands of work hours and unbelievable amounts of code.  It really isn't that simple a task to get image recognition software to "see" that this image and that image "line up" and to match them.  Now imagine doing that when it only "roughly" lines up as in the case of Notre Dam there and you get a picture of just what they had to do.  And, further, to get it to put it together in 3D, recognizing that the image had DEPTH to it and wasn't just a 2D shape.  Well, I'm stunned.  As with all programs of this scope, I can imagine no one programmer knows entirely how it works, what with individual "modules" being programmed by different people (modern programming is set up in such a way that all a programmer working on one module needs to know is the input/output/operator commands of other modules to get their own module to work nice with them).

Working with text is actually easier than working with images.  I imagine that a similar tactic could be used to gather vast overall "verbal pictures" of related research documents.  Expanding on this, a computer might actually be able to draw complicated conclusion (I'm talking "next step" stuff here, but after seeing this it can't be that far off) based on all this metadata.  I can see a computer comparing vast fields of images on earth, with time also being a factor so it has a past and future, and also in various wavelengths and even just charts of stuff like pollution and so on, and actually being able to give an educated opinion on the direction of earth's climate.  From there, maybe even a suggestion on how to change things, adding in the text data from various research papers.  Keep in mind that THAT is much further down the line, but it's all the forward march of programming technology.  If they can do this, and it isn't just a "artistic model" but real time examples they are showing, I can't see how the rest isn't anything more than a lot of work and research away from now.

I can see a time in the future when we surf the net not just with data searches but with a dedicated AI buddy that culls it for information relevent to us, based on what we've wanted to search for in the past, and one who provides us with suggestions, only something that actually seems friendly and eerily accurate and not just the Amazon.com "people who got this also liked: " list.  These are the sorts of things that change the world in the information age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all part of that important next step in computer programming.  Gathering data we&#8217;ve been able to do for years, but how well a machine can cross reference data with other data really determines what that computer can do.</p>
<p>Honestly the power of that software is mind boggling to me.  This must have involved thousands of work hours and unbelievable amounts of code.  It really isn&#8217;t that simple a task to get image recognition software to &#8220;see&#8221; that this image and that image &#8220;line up&#8221; and to match them.  Now imagine doing that when it only &#8220;roughly&#8221; lines up as in the case of Notre Dam there and you get a picture of just what they had to do.  And, further, to get it to put it together in 3D, recognizing that the image had DEPTH to it and wasn&#8217;t just a 2D shape.  Well, I&#8217;m stunned.  As with all programs of this scope, I can imagine no one programmer knows entirely how it works, what with individual &#8220;modules&#8221; being programmed by different people (modern programming is set up in such a way that all a programmer working on one module needs to know is the input/output/operator commands of other modules to get their own module to work nice with them).</p>
<p>Working with text is actually easier than working with images.  I imagine that a similar tactic could be used to gather vast overall &#8220;verbal pictures&#8221; of related research documents.  Expanding on this, a computer might actually be able to draw complicated conclusion (I&#8217;m talking &#8220;next step&#8221; stuff here, but after seeing this it can&#8217;t be that far off) based on all this metadata.  I can see a computer comparing vast fields of images on earth, with time also being a factor so it has a past and future, and also in various wavelengths and even just charts of stuff like pollution and so on, and actually being able to give an educated opinion on the direction of earth&#8217;s climate.  From there, maybe even a suggestion on how to change things, adding in the text data from various research papers.  Keep in mind that THAT is much further down the line, but it&#8217;s all the forward march of programming technology.  If they can do this, and it isn&#8217;t just a &#8220;artistic model&#8221; but real time examples they are showing, I can&#8217;t see how the rest isn&#8217;t anything more than a lot of work and research away from now.</p>
<p>I can see a time in the future when we surf the net not just with data searches but with a dedicated AI buddy that culls it for information relevent to us, based on what we&#8217;ve wanted to search for in the past, and one who provides us with suggestions, only something that actually seems friendly and eerily accurate and not just the Amazon.com &#8220;people who got this also liked: &#8221; list.  These are the sorts of things that change the world in the information age.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/#comment-37633</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/04/meta-imaging/#comment-37633</guid>
		<description>Applications as diverse as medicine and the movie business also come to mind. Perhaps as an enhancement to diagnostic medical imaging, and in the movies, perhaps companies like Industrial Light and Magic could apply a variant of this for enhancing the creation of highly detailed, realistically appearing matted background sets, including computer generated objects and even characters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Applications as diverse as medicine and the movie business also come to mind. Perhaps as an enhancement to diagnostic medical imaging, and in the movies, perhaps companies like Industrial Light and Magic could apply a variant of this for enhancing the creation of highly detailed, realistically appearing matted background sets, including computer generated objects and even characters.</p>
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