I guess some think they have all the answers.

What I find sad is the incredible hatred from the left these days when questioned.

Skepticism, questioning, and challenging is not anti-science.
It is a KEY part of science.

And sadly some confuse theory, with faith. And embrace it terribly so that they spit venom at anyone that dare challenge it.

God, devil or sun help them.

On a side note, I had no idea you and Paul Harvey were oppisites on *everything*. I used to listen to his news and comment show as a teen.
Care to give an expose on your opposing views? I’d be interested to see what I’ve been misled to believe (though thanks to site like yours, I believe I do have a clearer view of the, well, universe than before).

Ivan.

GO FRED GO!!!!

You lost the tail of Fred Thompson’s quote….”Ask Galileo.”

Clever. Don’t dismiss this fellow so quickly.

Have the Republicrats have found their new Reagan?

One thing for sure: it’s gonna get hotter under the circus tent.

BZZZT! False.

Duke

Makes sense know I’ve heard the explanation – love the quote !

Lengthof day may just play a role too.

Mars and Earth both rotate in about 24~25 hours. Venus, Mercury and others rotate either much more quickly or slowly.

So : 1) orbital eccentricity & distance from Sun
2) axial tilt &
3) length of day :

All those being similar seems to explain why Milankovitch cycles work so well on Mars and Earth and not so well – if at all – elsewhere.

Be interesting to see how any exoplanets in similar Earthly / Martian circumstances go in this regard … among others.

(As Yogi Berra would say “Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded!”)

This is the typical end-result of a normally low-traffic site being linked to by a very popular site.

If I were to say something interesting my hypothetical GeoCities site, and someone at, say Slashdot.org, were to link to it, and then ten thousand slashdot geeks decended onto my site all at once, so that the 10,001st person could no longer reach it at all, that would be, literally, Slashdotting.

“It’s interesting that Mars and Earth share Milankovic cycles. Why would they do that?”

Both planets are tilted similarly on their axis and both have eccentric orbits – Mars more so than Earth which, incidentally, was ideal for Johannes Kepler working out his laws ofplanetary motion and getting rid of the notion of “Divine Circular” orbits for planets.

Both are similar rocky worlds with atmospheres, solid surfaces below reasonable atmospheres and active geology (at least in the past for Mars although its geological cycle is NOT plate tectonics like Earth) in many respects the two are very similar although Mars low mass makes it incapable of quite being earthlike enough to sustain an earthlike ecology…

Venus OTOH stands straight upright if upsidedownin its more circular orbit, Mercury has no atmosphere & the outer planets arewell very much outer …

No surprise really then given the way Milankovic cycles work that Mars and Earth have ‘em whilst the other worlds don’t .. Or at least don’t have anything quite the same. You can only have ice-ages where you have icecaps after all.

Que? Sensomilla = ???
Someone also mentioned slashdotting which = ???
Two totally odd words I’ve never heard before on one thread .. Hmnn curious..

If you’re in any doubt about the reality of global warming then why not ask someone from Tuvalu (a pacific archepeligo going under with sea level rise) or near the disappearing Andean glaciers or the disappearing Kilaminajro icecap or the vanishing Larsen B iceshelf (ok folk living theretend tobe a bit harder to locate!) or etc ..

Whether its entirely, mostly or slightly human caused _may_ just may be another question but it is certainly happening and the industrial pollutants we’re pouring into the atmosphere from burning fossil fuels clearly aren’t helping. It seems really most unlikely to me that all the huge amounts of extra oil fumes and other crud we’re adding are doing arehaving no effect our atmosphere… That sort of GW denialism sounds a lot like saying urinating and defecating on your carpet all day long is going to leave it unstained, unsmelly and still sanitary to me.

When it comes to elites / intellectuals running nations I second the nomination for Phil as President!

I will also note that like teh stroy /legend (?) of Cincinatus (spelling?) an Atehnian who was chosen leader, protested agaisnt that but then led brillantly then quickly went back to being a farmer, it shows the best leaders are those who do NOT want the job. I suggest selecting Presidents and Congressfolk, etc .. via the jury selction method followed by IQ /political knowledge test to find the most intelligent of those selected – then let the other eleven folk apply what they know from life experience and use their common-sense to decide anything &everything – & let panels of recognised experts from the relevant fields help them by outlining the knowledge, options and arguments.

It sems both sad and really self-destructive that in today’s America the perfectly good words and people called ‘intellectual’, ‘liberal’ or ‘academic’ find those terms have been twisted into labels of abuse rather than respect. A nation that worships brute strength and superficial appearance over intelligence and reasoned compassion is a nation that has its priorities _very_ wrong and will regret it later. Australia too – along with the United States and others has fallen into this trap as I see things.

One other last point : Albert Einstein was apparently offered but declined the presidency of Israel. Wonder how different history would have been had he agreed and led the place and how he would have delt with the Palestineans … ? My guess is that he would have negotiated a reasonable truce giving both sides a fair go although whether even Einstein could have solved that problem is a tough hypothetical indeed.

I’m from Boulder and that’s not a “fantasy” report. Next time, I’m whipping out the camera phone for photographic proof.

Really? Name one. Preferably an expert in climatology.

Jim Roberts

Having some prominent scientists speaking out against AGW does not mean that there is no concensus, just that there isn’t unanimity.

Sorry, I just get angry whenever someone says “There is no concensus ‘cos this guy here doesn’t agree!” That’s a non-sequitur.

Corry

P.S.: Be gentle, for he might get the BA equivalent of Slashdotting.

Very funny.

There may be other expressions around the world for that behavior, particularly in this age of XXXX Idol and the latest Hollywood hearthrob, or Big Brother.

But “elite” here does not seem to have any un-toward connotations, they are just there, and, so long as they do not really throw their weight around, “good luck to them”. Though seemingly contradictory, we do acknowledge a distinction.

Ivan.