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	<title>Comments on: Breaking news: Shuttle to land at 12:49 PT in California</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Jack Hagerty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Hagerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 22:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gopher65 Says: &quot;Ok, so why do they just let the shuttle sit there for so long after it touches down? Are they waiting for it to cool down or what? Shouldnâ€™t the air have cooled it down after it slowed to its terminal velocity?&quot;

There are two things at work here. First is heat dissipation, which has already been mentioned. Those tiles are specifically designed to have INCREDIBLY slow heat propagation. This is, of course, to prevent the friction and compression heat from reaching the aircraft structure during reentry, but once the tiles are heated up, they are just as slow to cool off. There&#039;s a famous publicity photo of a chunk of tile material that had been heated to incandescence, but someone (whom I hope got hazardous duty pay) is shown holding it by the corners with their bare fingers!

The second issue is volatiles. The APU&#039;s in the tail end (which run the hydraulic pumps and other miscellaneous equipment) run off of hydrazine, which is both toxic and corrosive. They want to make sure that the H&#039;zine and other volatiles have completely dissipated before approaching the vehicle.

- Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gopher65 Says: &#8220;Ok, so why do they just let the shuttle sit there for so long after it touches down? Are they waiting for it to cool down or what? Shouldnâ€™t the air have cooled it down after it slowed to its terminal velocity?&#8221;</p>
<p>There are two things at work here. First is heat dissipation, which has already been mentioned. Those tiles are specifically designed to have INCREDIBLY slow heat propagation. This is, of course, to prevent the friction and compression heat from reaching the aircraft structure during reentry, but once the tiles are heated up, they are just as slow to cool off. There&#8217;s a famous publicity photo of a chunk of tile material that had been heated to incandescence, but someone (whom I hope got hazardous duty pay) is shown holding it by the corners with their bare fingers!</p>
<p>The second issue is volatiles. The APU&#8217;s in the tail end (which run the hydraulic pumps and other miscellaneous equipment) run off of hydrazine, which is both toxic and corrosive. They want to make sure that the H&#8217;zine and other volatiles have completely dissipated before approaching the vehicle.</p>
<p>- Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Peter B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 06:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gopher65 said: &quot;Really. Huh. Iâ€™m surprised that it takes so long to cool down.&quot;

Remember, the tiles are like the coals in a firewalking fire - they may be hot, but they give out heat slowly. That way they don&#039;t transfer heat to the Shuttle&#039;s structure underneath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gopher65 said: &#8220;Really. Huh. Iâ€™m surprised that it takes so long to cool down.&#8221;</p>
<p>Remember, the tiles are like the coals in a firewalking fire &#8211; they may be hot, but they give out heat slowly. That way they don&#8217;t transfer heat to the Shuttle&#8217;s structure underneath.</p>
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		<title>By: slang</title>
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		<dc:creator>slang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s some info on post landing activity here:

http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/nasafact/pdf/LandingSS-2005.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s some info on post landing activity here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/nasafact/pdf/LandingSS-2005.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/nasafact/pdf/LandingSS-2005.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in inland SoCal, we heard a sonic boom earlier which we didn&#039;t identify until I saw the Atlantis news story later. Very cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in inland SoCal, we heard a sonic boom earlier which we didn&#8217;t identify until I saw the Atlantis news story later. Very cool!</p>
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		<title>By: gopher65</title>
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		<dc:creator>gopher65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really. Huh. I&#039;m surprised that it takes so long to cool down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really. Huh. I&#8217;m surprised that it takes so long to cool down.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to one of the astronauts who was commenting on a news program, even an hour later the shuttle is still warm, and they can feel the hear coming off it when they disembark.

But some of the reasons it sits there so long is because checklists have to be gone through, switches have to be safed, etc. They can&#039;t just land and jump out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to one of the astronauts who was commenting on a news program, even an hour later the shuttle is still warm, and they can feel the hear coming off it when they disembark.</p>
<p>But some of the reasons it sits there so long is because checklists have to be gone through, switches have to be safed, etc. They can&#8217;t just land and jump out.</p>
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		<title>By: gopher65</title>
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		<dc:creator>gopher65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so why do they just let the shuttle sit there for so long after it touches down? Are they waiting for it to cool down or what? Shouldn&#039;t the air have cooled it down after it slowed to its terminal velocity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so why do they just let the shuttle sit there for so long after it touches down? Are they waiting for it to cool down or what? Shouldn&#8217;t the air have cooled it down after it slowed to its terminal velocity?</p>
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