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	<title>Comments on: Update: Shannon Malloy</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/25/update-shannon-malloy/comment-page-1/#comment-140871</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all the people who are grandstanding at this poor woman account shame on you, if you stop and look at a real individual maybe you&#039;ll realize there is more to them then what you see on the outside god bless shannon malloys spirit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all the people who are grandstanding at this poor woman account shame on you, if you stop and look at a real individual maybe you&#8217;ll realize there is more to them then what you see on the outside god bless shannon malloys spirit.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/25/update-shannon-malloy/comment-page-1/#comment-39727</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to say thank you to everyone who donated.  We&#039;re on the road to arranging eye surgery for Shannon.  The human race is amazing - and Shannon is so very appreciative of Dr. Phil&#039;s efforts and everyone&#039;s kind responses.
Those who say they depend on science to base opinions should read before they speak.  I believe science is fact gathering, not assumption.  I don&#039;t recall a mention anywhere of Shannon&#039;s religious affiliations.  Just saying so, that&#039;s all.  No offense taken.
Phil - we&#039;ll send you photos when her eyes are straightened out!  Remember - we&#039;re only 30 miles away.  We&#039;d love to meet you sometime and say our thanks in person!
Shannon&#039;s Mom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to say thank you to everyone who donated.  We&#8217;re on the road to arranging eye surgery for Shannon.  The human race is amazing &#8211; and Shannon is so very appreciative of Dr. Phil&#8217;s efforts and everyone&#8217;s kind responses.<br />
Those who say they depend on science to base opinions should read before they speak.  I believe science is fact gathering, not assumption.  I don&#8217;t recall a mention anywhere of Shannon&#8217;s religious affiliations.  Just saying so, that&#8217;s all.  No offense taken.<br />
Phil &#8211; we&#8217;ll send you photos when her eyes are straightened out!  Remember &#8211; we&#8217;re only 30 miles away.  We&#8217;d love to meet you sometime and say our thanks in person!<br />
Shannon&#8217;s Mom</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Burnham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/25/update-shannon-malloy/comment-page-1/#comment-39726</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Burnham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Troy:  we&#039;re skeptics not cynics.  The amount raised shows that there&#039;s a big difference between the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troy:  we&#8217;re skeptics not cynics.  The amount raised shows that there&#8217;s a big difference between the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/25/update-shannon-malloy/comment-page-1/#comment-39725</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s about $2200 more than I thought you&#039;d get for her.  As Lazarus Long (or was it Robert Heinlein?) said, &quot;If contemplating an act of altruism, pause to consider your motives, if it still feels good indulge in it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s about $2200 more than I thought you&#8217;d get for her.  As Lazarus Long (or was it Robert Heinlein?) said, &#8220;If contemplating an act of altruism, pause to consider your motives, if it still feels good indulge in it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Burnham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/25/update-shannon-malloy/comment-page-1/#comment-39724</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Burnham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.

2 grand is raised for a woman needing medical treatment and all Allen can do is to whine about perceived persecution of Christians, yada yada yada.

Oh, and for the record, Christians (and anyone else) don&#039;t deserve any automatic respect for sticking to their beliefs unless those beliefs can be justified by reasoned argument.

On the other hand, people who give generously to a woman in need who they have never met, have earned my respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p>
<p>2 grand is raised for a woman needing medical treatment and all Allen can do is to whine about perceived persecution of Christians, yada yada yada.</p>
<p>Oh, and for the record, Christians (and anyone else) don&#8217;t deserve any automatic respect for sticking to their beliefs unless those beliefs can be justified by reasoned argument.</p>
<p>On the other hand, people who give generously to a woman in need who they have never met, have earned my respect.</p>
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		<title>By: allen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/06/25/update-shannon-malloy/comment-page-1/#comment-39723</link>
		<dc:creator>allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; I took some time to think through the situation, and decided to apologize

I hear ya. When you&#039;re justified in demeaning people and condescending to them it&#039;s just tough to know where to draw the line sometimes. They are Christians after all and not worthy of much respect. Being so stupid that they have a laughably inaccurate view of the world and are just too stubborn, and stupid,  to abandon those beliefs when confronted with sneering derision.

I guess they&#039;re just a cross that has to be borne.

But I sense an opportunity to do a little science.

Here&#039;s the phenomenon that&#039;s in need of an explanatory hypothesis: Putting aside the self-indulgent, not to mention way too convenient, assumption of intellectual defect what mechanism would explain fundamentalist Christian&#039;s preference for biblical interpretation over the results of investigation? I assume that the obvious circularity of stupidity as an explanation for biblical belief and biblical belief as evidence of stupidity is sufficient to remove it from consideration? Good.

I&#039;ll prime the pump with another, I feel, related phenomenon which I&#039;ve come to refer too as the reverse Heisenberg Uncertainty principle. It posits that the mere consideration of the phenomenon previously described changes the observer. Specifically, it reduces the likelihood of finding yourself acting like a shmuck because of your intellectual superiority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I took some time to think through the situation, and decided to apologize</p>
<p>I hear ya. When you&#8217;re justified in demeaning people and condescending to them it&#8217;s just tough to know where to draw the line sometimes. They are Christians after all and not worthy of much respect. Being so stupid that they have a laughably inaccurate view of the world and are just too stubborn, and stupid,  to abandon those beliefs when confronted with sneering derision.</p>
<p>I guess they&#8217;re just a cross that has to be borne.</p>
<p>But I sense an opportunity to do a little science.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the phenomenon that&#8217;s in need of an explanatory hypothesis: Putting aside the self-indulgent, not to mention way too convenient, assumption of intellectual defect what mechanism would explain fundamentalist Christian&#8217;s preference for biblical interpretation over the results of investigation? I assume that the obvious circularity of stupidity as an explanation for biblical belief and biblical belief as evidence of stupidity is sufficient to remove it from consideration? Good.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll prime the pump with another, I feel, related phenomenon which I&#8217;ve come to refer too as the reverse Heisenberg Uncertainty principle. It posits that the mere consideration of the phenomenon previously described changes the observer. Specifically, it reduces the likelihood of finding yourself acting like a shmuck because of your intellectual superiority.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Halleluiah! It&#039;s a miracle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halleluiah! It&#8217;s a miracle.</p>
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