This intense argument over evolution that requires no God, and intelligent design that gives credit where credit is due, could be finally proving. I am dead serious here when it comes to this kind of God or no God philosophy.

People on the left say that there was no intelligent being, just a big explosion in space and nothing more. The people on the right say that there is a super intelligent being that is more than capable of creating every aspect of life including all the planets that make up all those countless galaxies out there. However, I choose neither approach for I shall remain neutral, between both opinions. As I said in the beginning I have the videotape evidence that proves beyond any doubt whatsoever, that heavenly Angels and fallen Angels really do exist. In addition, if these good and evil entities truly exist then there has to be a creator. Unfortunately, I will not be the one to release this video data to the world that finally proves that there really is a highly intelligent Supreme Being out there. As a former satanic high priest, it goes against my years of programming to release this video data to the world. Now I may not be willing to release it, however whoever may purchase this brief video data from me for ten or twenty million dollars, can do whatever he or she wants with it.
In conclusion, that eBay Internet service jazz seems to be quite popular in regards to all those religious items these days, therefore I will give it a shot for lots of filthy lucre.
Then some rich millionair can release it to the world, for a nice profit.

On the other hand I would also contend that the bible which claims to be the word of God is probably the most commented on, criticised, misrepresented, misunderstood book ever written.

Do not forget that the best math the Greek philos. had supported their model of the universe. Are we not men as they? As they then, we now only have the best tools we can provide, and still, we wrestle with our minds. over the answer to the same questions they presumed to have solved. Oh you say we have so much greater knowledge. Sure we put a man on the moon, we have solved many health problems , we have a huge manufacturing ability, just one of our airliners would to them be an amazing miracle!! Yet our planet is dying under our own pollution evident in almost every field of human endeavor! Our knowledge has puffed us up. And we run the risk of “puffing out” as a result
I will not deliver my opinion there are thousands of men who have made Science their career, There are thousands of theologeons who have studied holy scripture ’till the cows come home - that is also their career.
I will deliver the words of two who claim to be beyond the constraints of time, space and matter, but not energy. They make the personal claim I AM - no “past” no “future” just an eternal present. “Before Abram was I AM”. and to Moses “go tell Pharaoh I AM sent you” “I AM the Alpha and Omega … I AM God and there is none like me telling the end from the beginning and from ancient times the things not yet done saying I will fulfill all my purpose…” Now i ask you? the relligeous leaders told the person in the first instant he was mad, do you agree? Abram had been dead quite a few centuries!
Scientists tell us that befroe the big bang there was no time, no space, no matter. Can you imagine an existance in such a “non” place?? Yet at least two claim it to be their eternal home and that they together created the time space continuum in which we live and die! Be careful how you judge these claims, they were made to men long before scientists knew any thing about space time, light speed, quantum mechanics, the big bang and “something” before time

They also made the preposterous!? claim that except for their personal intervention no man will survive the future, and offered a supernatural, verifiable, defined experience to those who would believe them and put their bold claims to the test. He who has an experiance is not at the mercy of him who can only provide an argument.
Yes Andrew i am a “fundamentalist” and I love the truth that science can tell me about the “miraculose” universe we call home. Aristotle and his friends did their best, they were wise and learned for their time but they were still ignorant of many things we now claim are “set in concrete” When i look at the world today i ask the question what have we leaned from history? and i sometimes think “nothing that we should, could have” Yet i am an optimist because i have the experience of Life.

It’s unfortunate that a number of people have latched onto this to push their atheist or anti-Christian agenda. Doing that is precisely the kind of thing that pushes people apart and creates unproductive decisiveness and hostility. It only offers ammunition to people who want to depict science as incompatible with their religion or ethical beliefs, and it likely doesn’t change the opinion of a single person. The elitist tenor does not help either.

Generally, it’s bad to imply that anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant and foolish. They’ll then never change their opinion. Great job, not only have you failed to accomplish your goal, but you’ve discredited people who are honestly trying to educate people. Basically you’re just the “educated” version of the rabid extremist who enjoys gloating how they are going to be in paradise in the next life and you will be re-incarnated as a goat. It might make you feel good, but it doesn’t help humanity.

If you want to help the fundamentalists who hate science, by all means continue, you’re playing right into their hands.

So you are telling me that you know how the universe started and life and this and that but you can’t tell me what the pick 3 lottery numbers will be for tomorrow? ;-P What is the math formula for that?

If the universe in infinite and there are other dimensions, other universes, that can have an infinite number of different rules and they go on forever then certainly almost anything is possible.

“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”

“Imagination is more important than knowledge”

Albert Einstein