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	<title>Comments on: Where were these people when they should have spoken up?</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: America Doesn&#8217;t Belong to Americans Anymore ~ Chris Pirillo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/10/where-were-these-people-when-they-should-have-spoken-up/comment-page-1/#comment-41426</link>
		<dc:creator>America Doesn&#8217;t Belong to Americans Anymore ~ Chris Pirillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 04:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did speak out against the Bush administration.  In fact, more generally, I even issued a fatwa for those in need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did speak out against the Bush administration.  In fact, more generally, I even issued a fatwa for those in need.</p>
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		<title>By: Guillermo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guillermo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Phil,

Congratulations on the interesting blog.  I enjoyed your discussion about the &quot;Face on Mars&quot; stuff.  Fascinating!  And your posting on Dr. Carmona is an interesting discussion of the intersection of politics and science.

I don&#039;t know if you have discussed this elsewhere but another &quot;hot topic&quot; in that intersection is &quot;Anthropogenic Global Warming&quot; (AGW).  I am curious as to your thoughts on that matter.

Specifically, I would like to know what you think about the recent comments of Robert F. Kennedy.  He recently said that those who disagree with the consensus opinion on the subject (which as you know is that it is true and action must be taken) are &quot;fascists&quot; and &quot;traitors&quot; and should be treated as such.  The penalty for treason is imprisonment or death.

What do you think about that?  Should people who say that they do not believe in the AGW hypothesis be imprisoned or executed?

Keep up the good work on the blog!

Regards,
Guillermo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Phil,</p>
<p>Congratulations on the interesting blog.  I enjoyed your discussion about the &#8220;Face on Mars&#8221; stuff.  Fascinating!  And your posting on Dr. Carmona is an interesting discussion of the intersection of politics and science.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you have discussed this elsewhere but another &#8220;hot topic&#8221; in that intersection is &#8220;Anthropogenic Global Warming&#8221; (AGW).  I am curious as to your thoughts on that matter.</p>
<p>Specifically, I would like to know what you think about the recent comments of Robert F. Kennedy.  He recently said that those who disagree with the consensus opinion on the subject (which as you know is that it is true and action must be taken) are &#8220;fascists&#8221; and &#8220;traitors&#8221; and should be treated as such.  The penalty for treason is imprisonment or death.</p>
<p>What do you think about that?  Should people who say that they do not believe in the AGW hypothesis be imprisoned or executed?</p>
<p>Keep up the good work on the blog!</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Guillermo</p>
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		<title>By: mr. roboto</title>
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		<dc:creator>mr. roboto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is this news about the surgeon general  a surprise.  If someone would talk, chances are they would walk.  That&#039;s your reason for those in a position of authority to do something, ending up not doing anything until they&#039;re safe from harm.  Censoring scientistists wanting to tell the public their findings and projections on global warming is just the tip of the iceberg.  The White House routinely controls the media and the public&#039;s perception of what reality is.  Typical politics, especially for this administration.  Ignore the issue, downplay it, or cover it up to protect your career, ratings and increase your power.  Let the next administration and generation sort out the problems you helped create.   The ultimate victims of anti-science, will be those who have to live with and suffer the consequences of the current administrations apathy and indifference to important national and world issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is this news about the surgeon general  a surprise.  If someone would talk, chances are they would walk.  That&#8217;s your reason for those in a position of authority to do something, ending up not doing anything until they&#8217;re safe from harm.  Censoring scientistists wanting to tell the public their findings and projections on global warming is just the tip of the iceberg.  The White House routinely controls the media and the public&#8217;s perception of what reality is.  Typical politics, especially for this administration.  Ignore the issue, downplay it, or cover it up to protect your career, ratings and increase your power.  Let the next administration and generation sort out the problems you helped create.   The ultimate victims of anti-science, will be those who have to live with and suffer the consequences of the current administrations apathy and indifference to important national and world issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Pirillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Pirillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The stem cell lobby&#039;s wallet isn&#039;t as deep, apparently...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stem cell lobby&#8217;s wallet isn&#8217;t as deep, apparently&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Nickel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nickel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œAnything that doesnâ€™t fit into the political appointeesâ€™ ideological, theological or political agenda is ignored, marginalized or simply buried,â€

You are either incredibly naive, stupid, or just plain pigheaded.  The above statement DESCRIBES politics!  Since you&#039;re a liberal, you have to make it a quasi-moral issue when the other guys are in power (quasi because morals are so, well, religious-y).  When your idealogues are at the helm, it&#039;s &quot;courageous resistance of special interest groups&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œAnything that doesnâ€™t fit into the political appointeesâ€™ ideological, theological or political agenda is ignored, marginalized or simply buried,â€</p>
<p>You are either incredibly naive, stupid, or just plain pigheaded.  The above statement DESCRIBES politics!  Since you&#8217;re a liberal, you have to make it a quasi-moral issue when the other guys are in power (quasi because morals are so, well, religious-y).  When your idealogues are at the helm, it&#8217;s &#8220;courageous resistance of special interest groups&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Daffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QD, I agree with much of what you say...this country was bought and paid for by the Global Corporations a long time ago. Still, let&#039;s all stop voting for major party candidates and see what happens! To me, the real danger is party loyalty, especially among Republicans; although many Democrats can be just as bad (in my experience they just tend to be more questioning than republican voters).

Party first, country second is what is allowing all the corruption to flourish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QD, I agree with much of what you say&#8230;this country was bought and paid for by the Global Corporations a long time ago. Still, let&#8217;s all stop voting for major party candidates and see what happens! To me, the real danger is party loyalty, especially among Republicans; although many Democrats can be just as bad (in my experience they just tend to be more questioning than republican voters).</p>
<p>Party first, country second is what is allowing all the corruption to flourish.</p>
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