Comments on: Mike Griffin on the Moon Hoax http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/ I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:55:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: zrl http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42950 zrl Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:15:21 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42950 Well, I just read an interesting page of calcs stating that the total radiation dose recieved by the Apollo astronauts was in the region of at most about 5 rads, about 2% of the lethal dose. Unfortunately also for the naysayers a weekend in with Newton's calculus will prove that the Saturn V definitely provided all the thrust needed to get to the moon, and the service module or LEM pad-stage engines enough for the return trip. The moral of the story? NEVER LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THEIR GED. I love physics. If only people would bother to do the maths and stop just talking bollocks! Well, I just read an interesting page of calcs stating that the total radiation dose recieved by the Apollo astronauts was in the region of at most about 5 rads, about 2% of the lethal dose. Unfortunately also for the naysayers a weekend in with Newton’s calculus will prove that the Saturn V definitely provided all the thrust needed to get to the moon, and the service module or LEM pad-stage engines enough for the return trip. The moral of the story? NEVER LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THEIR GED.

I love physics. If only people would bother to do the maths and stop just talking bollocks!

]]> By: aidaza http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42949 aidaza Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:33:26 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42949 The flag may not still standing caused by the lift out by Apollo 11 from the moon. Then why other Apollo missions did not put a new one? The flag may not still standing caused by the lift out by Apollo 11 from the moon. Then why other Apollo missions did not put a new one?

]]> By: Kulcity http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42948 Kulcity Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:20:56 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42948 There is an argument saying that all the engineers and the brainers who built the rocket to moon are all dead now, and that's why we never go to the moon again after 40 years. But our technology is getting better and better, and I think people are more brainers now than before. Then why shouldn't we go to the moon again? All the 6 missions happened during the cold war. Now there is no more cold war, why should USA send men to moon again and waste their money? And why hubble telescope cannot find US Flag on the moon, but can take pictures from MARS which is million miles from earth? There is an argument saying that all the engineers and the brainers who built the rocket to moon are all dead now, and that’s why we never go to the moon again after 40 years.

But our technology is getting better and better, and I think people are more brainers now than before. Then why shouldn’t we go to the moon again? All the 6 missions happened during the cold war. Now there is no more cold war, why should USA send men to moon again and waste their money? And why hubble telescope cannot find US Flag on the moon, but can take pictures from MARS which is million miles from earth?

]]> By: Heck http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42947 Heck Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:35:37 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42947 Aliens actually planned it all. They kidnapped the Apollo crews, replaced them with alien crews and sent them back in time to Roswell, NM to crashland in the desert. Kind of like the Planet of the Apes movies with no apes. The command module equipped with three alien crew members, miscalculated the rotation of the earth on that day in 1947 and instead of splashing into the ocean to be picked up by Atlantians who came from the planet Spock, they crashed into the desert. And, that is why we have never really been to the moon. Blame it on E.T. Aliens actually planned it all. They kidnapped the Apollo crews, replaced them with alien crews and sent them back in time to Roswell, NM to crashland in the desert. Kind of like the Planet of the Apes movies with no apes. The command module equipped with three alien crew members, miscalculated the rotation of the earth on that day in 1947 and instead of splashing into the ocean to be picked up by Atlantians who came from the planet Spock, they crashed into the desert. And, that is why we have never really been to the moon. Blame it on E.T.

]]> By: KaiYeves http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42946 KaiYeves Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:47:48 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42946 Very instructive. Many humans have approached me with this theory. At first I tried saying "Trust me, I'm a Vegan investigator sent to observe your space technology and it's quite capable of reaching your moon. Why do you think I was sent here?" But my boss kept scolding me and I had to do a lot of mind-erasings, leaving the louts even dumber, so I've taken to just frying them with my ray gun. Very instructive. Many humans have approached me with this theory. At first I tried saying “Trust me, I’m a Vegan investigator sent to observe your space technology and it’s quite capable of reaching your moon. Why do you think I was sent here?” But my boss kept scolding me and I had to do a lot of mind-erasings, leaving the louts even dumber, so I’ve taken to just frying them with my ray gun.

]]> By: Mark http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42937 Mark Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:46:04 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42937 Haven't you heard? World War II was also faked. Infact, Columbus never made it to America and the entire civilisation that you inhabit is actually a giant sound stage inside Area 51. Expert witness Bob Thorton explains. ' Atlantic currents prevented anything from crossing the ocean. Those clever folks at the CIA created the idea of America through mind control. Have you seen how the Washington Monument creates those shadows! They're all at the wrong angle! Man I just don't buy the fact that America exists. If you have any doubts, my vid eo'The CIA and the Civilization of America conspiracy' is available online for $99'. And as for the Moon hoax conspiracy - well - only a fool believes that the Moon is real and not a painting on the area 51 hangar roof! Haven’t you heard? World War II was also faked. Infact, Columbus never made it to America and the entire civilisation that you inhabit is actually a giant sound stage inside Area 51. Expert witness Bob Thorton explains.
‘ Atlantic currents prevented anything from crossing the ocean. Those clever folks at the CIA created the idea of America through mind control. Have you seen how the Washington Monument creates those shadows! They’re all at the wrong angle! Man I just don’t buy the fact that America exists. If you have any doubts, my vid eo’The CIA and the Civilization of America conspiracy’ is available online for $99′.
And as for the Moon hoax conspiracy – well – only a fool believes that the Moon is real and not a painting on the area 51 hangar roof!

]]> By: Pete Janak http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42938 Pete Janak Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:43:18 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42938 Violet, The simple fact is at present we have no space vehicles designed for long distance travel. The Space Shuttle is not capable of flying to the moon,landing on or even just orbiting the moon, and then fly back to earth. The space shuttle being "today's technology" Firstly, the rocket that the Shuttle sits upon does not have enough power to get up to the necessary speed to punch out of earth orbit like the Saturn V rocket did. In order to build another ship to go to the moon we would have to first build the machinery to make such a ship. As there are no machines designed for this specific purpose at the moment this can't happen To do the above, create facilities to create a space ship designed for moon landing, is far too cost prohibative right now. And we didn't go just once. We landed on the moon with the following Apollo missions. 11,12,14,15,16,17. Apollo 10 just orbited the moon with men onboard. I think maybe Apollo 9 did also. But maybe not. Pete Violet,

The simple fact is at present we have no space vehicles designed for long distance travel. The Space Shuttle is not capable of flying to the moon,landing on or even just orbiting the moon, and then fly back to earth. The space shuttle being “today’s technology”

Firstly, the rocket that the Shuttle sits upon does not have enough power to get up to the necessary speed to punch out of earth orbit like the Saturn V rocket did.

In order to build another ship to go to the moon we would have to first build the machinery to make such a ship. As there are no machines designed for this specific purpose at the moment this can’t happen

To do the above, create facilities to create a space ship designed for moon landing, is far too cost prohibative right now. And we didn’t go just once. We landed on the moon with the following Apollo missions. 11,12,14,15,16,17. Apollo 10 just orbited the moon with men onboard. I think maybe Apollo 9 did also. But maybe not.
Pete

]]> By: Violet http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42940 Violet Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:41:45 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42940 If in fact we were able to go to the moon, I wonder why we never went back? almost 40 years later and nobody tried again? How come? I don't know how true this is, but a lot of people claim that even with today's technology that would be imposible to accomplish, that's why. If in fact we were able to go to the moon, I wonder why we never went back? almost 40 years later and nobody tried again? How come?
I don’t know how true this is, but a lot of people claim that even with today’s technology that would be imposible to accomplish, that’s why.

]]> By: Violet http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42939 Violet Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:40:51 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42939 If in fact we were able to go to the moon, I wonder why we never went back? almost 40 years later and nobody try again? How come? I don't know how true this is, but a lot of people claim that even with today's technology that would be imposible to accomplish, that's why. If in fact we were able to go to the moon, I wonder why we never went back? almost 40 years later and nobody try again? How come?
I don’t know how true this is, but a lot of people claim that even with today’s technology that would be imposible to accomplish, that’s why.

]]> By: Nadia http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42941 Nadia Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:47:23 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42941 I think it's just sad that people have such little faith in human intelligence. All the work and all the brain power that must have gone into Apollo 11... just for people to say that it never happened. Just sad. And stupid. **To people believing the Moon landings were a hoax my own answer is: to do _that_ with such a perfection in all the innumerable details, would have been a far greater accomplishment for NASA than… actually landing on the Moon!** Exactly. I think it’s just sad that people have such little faith in human intelligence. All the work and all the brain power that must have gone into Apollo 11… just for people to say that it never happened. Just sad.

And stupid.

**To people believing the Moon landings were a hoax my own answer is: to do _that_ with such a perfection in all the innumerable details, would have been a far greater accomplishment for NASA than… actually landing on the Moon!**

Exactly.

]]> By: Nadia http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42942 Nadia Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:43:51 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42942 I think it's just sad that people have such little faith in human intelligence. All the work and all the brain power that must have gone into Apollo 11... just for people to say that it never happened. Just sad. And stupid. > Exactly. I think it’s just sad that people have such little faith in human intelligence. All the work and all the brain power that must have gone into Apollo 11… just for people to say that it never happened. Just sad.

And stupid.

>

Exactly.

]]> By: Maurizio Morabito http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42943 Maurizio Morabito Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:12:24 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42943 To people believing the Moon landings were a hoax my own answer is: to do _that_ with such a perfection in all the innumerable details, would have been a far greater accomplishment for NASA than... actually landing on the Moon! To people believing the Moon landings were a hoax my own answer is: to do _that_ with such a perfection in all the innumerable details, would have been a far greater accomplishment for NASA than… actually landing on the Moon!

]]> By: ABR http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42945 ABR Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:33:27 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42945 Avada Kedavra? Mad-Eye Moody? HP and the Inkjet of Cupertino? Oh, the auror -- the AUROR! Actually, if I was to choose a spell for the moon hoax nuts (including Joe Rogan) it would be...Erudio! or perhaps...Cogito! Pardon my poor (non-biological) Latin. Avada Kedavra?
Mad-Eye Moody?
HP and the Inkjet of Cupertino?
Oh, the auror — the AUROR!

Actually, if I was to choose a spell for the moon hoax nuts (including Joe Rogan) it would be…Erudio! or perhaps…Cogito! Pardon my poor (non-biological) Latin.

]]> By: Jack Hagerty http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42944 Jack Hagerty Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:02:23 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42944 Quiet_Desperation says: “Avada Kedavra” Oooh, mixing our genres here, are we? I just spent an entire HP weekend, accompanying my daughter to the Friday night (Saturday morning) book release. She wanted me to go in costume, so I threw together a "Mad Eye Moody" costume that actually placed in the top four! Never done that before. It was weird, but really fun. - Jack Quiet_Desperation says: “Avada Kedavra”

Oooh, mixing our genres here, are we?

I just spent an entire HP weekend, accompanying my daughter to the Friday night (Saturday morning) book release. She wanted me to go in costume, so I threw together a “Mad Eye Moody” costume that actually placed in the top four!

Never done that before. It was weird, but really fun.

- Jack

]]> By: Tom K http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42931 Tom K Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:36:37 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42931 One thing I don't recall ever seeing addressed by the conspiracy theorists - if it was a hoax, why would they fake <b>six</b> moon landings instead of just one? After Apollo 11, why wouldn't they have an Apollo 13-type accident on Apollo 12, and just declare the whole thing too dangerous and cancel the rest of the missions? Oh right, I forgot - the conspiracy theorists are idiots. One thing I don’t recall ever seeing addressed by the conspiracy theorists – if it was a hoax, why would they fake six moon landings instead of just one? After Apollo 11, why wouldn’t they have an Apollo 13-type accident on Apollo 12, and just declare the whole thing too dangerous and cancel the rest of the missions?

Oh right, I forgot – the conspiracy theorists are idiots.

]]> By: Nauthiz http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42936 Nauthiz Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:21:30 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42936 [i] know someone who has a passing familiarity with the topic…[/i] Yeah, the head the NASA conspiracy calling on another member of the NASA conspiracy for backup. I'm sure that will stop all the TBs in their tracks. [i] know someone who has a passing familiarity with the topic…[/i]

Yeah, the head the NASA conspiracy calling on another member of the NASA conspiracy for backup. I’m sure that will stop all the TBs in their tracks.

]]> By: Nauthiz http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42935 Nauthiz Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:20:17 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42935 <i> know someone who has a passing familiarity with the topic…</i> Yeah, the head the NASA conspiracy calling on another member of the NASA conspiracy for backup. I'm sure that will stop all the TBs in their tracks. know someone who has a passing familiarity with the topic…

Yeah, the head the NASA conspiracy calling on another member of the NASA conspiracy for backup. I’m sure that will stop all the TBs in their tracks.

]]> By: Quiet_Desperation http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42934 Quiet_Desperation Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:18:42 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42934 >>> "I don’t know what to tell people who say the Moon landings were a hoax." "Avada Kedavra" >>> “I don’t know what to tell people who say the Moon landings were a hoax.”

“Avada Kedavra”

]]> By: DrFlimmer http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42933 DrFlimmer Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:00:07 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42933 I know someone, too! Maybe Mr Griffin should read the "we-all-know-which-it-is" website where all the facts are presented! It's a pity that I don't have his email address. I know someone, too! Maybe Mr Griffin should read the “we-all-know-which-it-is” website where all the facts are presented!
It’s a pity that I don’t have his email address.

]]> By: Navneeth http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42932 Navneeth Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:02:26 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42932 <i>I know someone who has a passing familiarity with the topic…</i> Yes, please contact Joe Rogan immediately. :P I know someone who has a passing familiarity with the topic…
Yes, please contact Joe Rogan immediately.
:P

]]> By: Roger Schlafly http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-42930 Roger Schlafly Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:42:29 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/07/23/mike-griffin-on-the-moon-hoax/#comment-42930 He doesn't "think" that they are lying to him? That is not very reassuring! And why did he tell us that a couple of dead astronauts have become personal friends of his? He doesn’t “think” that they are lying to him? That is not very reassuring!

And why did he tell us that a couple of dead astronauts have become personal friends of his?

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