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	<title>Comments on: Fantastically bright bolide over Europe</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Slovenian guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slovenian guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The footage you see in that Croatian video is ARCHIVE FOOTAGE - meaning its not the footage of the Super Bolide that fell in Slovenia on 25th July! No videos of this event were captured, but Slovenian experts are now gathering info to help them find the place where the particle of the bolide crashed into...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The footage you see in that Croatian video is ARCHIVE FOOTAGE &#8211; meaning its not the footage of the Super Bolide that fell in Slovenia on 25th July! No videos of this event were captured, but Slovenian experts are now gathering info to help them find the place where the particle of the bolide crashed into&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wonders of nature &#171; Analemma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wonders of nature &#171; Analemma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] without trying particularly hard I saw about a dozen meteors, including a couple of near-bolides. I saw a few meteors as Perseus rose on Friday night, too, and weâ€™ll probably see more tonight as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] without trying particularly hard I saw about a dozen meteors, including a couple of near-bolides. I saw a few meteors as Perseus rose on Friday night, too, and weâ€™ll probably see more tonight as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Langbroek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco Langbroek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 22:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NONE of the footage shown shows the fireball in question.

The footage at 00:10-00:16s in the video is not a fireball at all. It is months old footage shot in Mexico and shows a fighter jet with it&#039;s afterburner on (you can see the dark shape of the fighter jet on some moments during the footage if you look careful).

The still at 00:41s in the video already was commented on above, it&#039;s an older photograph of another fireball

The footage between 1:00-1:28 in the video is computer animation, from a Spanish ad campaign if I am not mistaken

The only footage I cannot identify is the still at 00:36s, but it looks very doubtful/artificial and not like a bolide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NONE of the footage shown shows the fireball in question.</p>
<p>The footage at 00:10-00:16s in the video is not a fireball at all. It is months old footage shot in Mexico and shows a fighter jet with it&#8217;s afterburner on (you can see the dark shape of the fighter jet on some moments during the footage if you look careful).</p>
<p>The still at 00:41s in the video already was commented on above, it&#8217;s an older photograph of another fireball</p>
<p>The footage between 1:00-1:28 in the video is computer animation, from a Spanish ad campaign if I am not mistaken</p>
<p>The only footage I cannot identify is the still at 00:36s, but it looks very doubtful/artificial and not like a bolide.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordan Ugarkovic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordan Ugarkovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dr. adrian: &quot;I wonder whether this is a joke on your part or whether a news agency actually fell for â€˜itâ€™.&quot;

Fell for what? Are you implying the news agency had no knowledge they were broadcasting unrelated footage? As I said before, they do that all the time (at least this TV network) here in Croatia and I&#039;m not a bit surprised. Yes, what they should be doing is clearly marking such footage as unrelated or even false. I&#039;ve already stated before that it&#039;s highly unlikely any of that footage was related in any way - one was footage I had already seen before, one is obviously faked as you say and one is a nighttime still image. It surprises me therefore when people continue arguing whether the footage is real or not AND from those conclusions they infer if the bolide was real or not.

As for the report of the actual bolide, I assure you if it didn&#039;t happen, they wouldn&#039;t be reporting about it. Astronomically related stuff isn&#039;t that popular here to get airtime without a good enough reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dr. adrian: &#8220;I wonder whether this is a joke on your part or whether a news agency actually fell for â€˜itâ€™.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fell for what? Are you implying the news agency had no knowledge they were broadcasting unrelated footage? As I said before, they do that all the time (at least this TV network) here in Croatia and I&#8217;m not a bit surprised. Yes, what they should be doing is clearly marking such footage as unrelated or even false. I&#8217;ve already stated before that it&#8217;s highly unlikely any of that footage was related in any way &#8211; one was footage I had already seen before, one is obviously faked as you say and one is a nighttime still image. It surprises me therefore when people continue arguing whether the footage is real or not AND from those conclusions they infer if the bolide was real or not.</p>
<p>As for the report of the actual bolide, I assure you if it didn&#8217;t happen, they wouldn&#8217;t be reporting about it. Astronomically related stuff isn&#8217;t that popular here to get airtime without a good enough reason.</p>
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		<title>By: dr.adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>dr.adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little surprised many of you think (or at least claim to believe) these are genuine. To me the last shot, with the split especially,is an obvious fake; it even features a rather fabricated focusing sequence and camera shake. I&#039;ve worked with some software used for making such particle effects before and some of those videos looked strikingly familiar to me. The lens flares are a little exaggerated too, especially for most cameras available to the public. Some images (especially the stills) may be genuine, but I believe a little bit more skepticism is in order.

There&#039;s plenty a YouTube comment like this where it shouldn&#039;t be, but I find this particular set a little unconvincing. I wonder whether this is a joke on your part or whether a news agency actually fell for &#039;it&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little surprised many of you think (or at least claim to believe) these are genuine. To me the last shot, with the split especially,is an obvious fake; it even features a rather fabricated focusing sequence and camera shake. I&#8217;ve worked with some software used for making such particle effects before and some of those videos looked strikingly familiar to me. The lens flares are a little exaggerated too, especially for most cameras available to the public. Some images (especially the stills) may be genuine, but I believe a little bit more skepticism is in order.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s plenty a YouTube comment like this where it shouldn&#8217;t be, but I find this particular set a little unconvincing. I wonder whether this is a joke on your part or whether a news agency actually fell for &#8216;it&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: khazar</title>
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		<dc:creator>khazar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Koen said:
The still at 41s is not of the Croatian fireball. It is an image made of a bright Leonid fireball which appeared over Norway during the storm of 17-18 November 1999. If you look closely at the image you can identify Orion at the left, a constellation not even visible at the time.

I suppose they found the image here:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap991202.html

Considering it was a daytime fireball the dark background with stars should have removed any doubtâ€¦
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Nice find. The report lost all its credibility as far as I&#039;m concerned. I watched it again, and it says: &quot;...only surveillance cameras were able to record this light&quot;, and then they show that picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Koen said:<br />
The still at 41s is not of the Croatian fireball. It is an image made of a bright Leonid fireball which appeared over Norway during the storm of 17-18 November 1999. If you look closely at the image you can identify Orion at the left, a constellation not even visible at the time.</p>
<p>I suppose they found the image here:<br />
<a href="http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap991202.html" rel="nofollow">http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap991202.html</a></p>
<p>Considering it was a daytime fireball the dark background with stars should have removed any doubtâ€¦<br />
&#8212;-<br />
Nice find. The report lost all its credibility as far as I&#8217;m concerned. I watched it again, and it says: &#8220;&#8230;only surveillance cameras were able to record this light&#8221;, and then they show that picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Stipe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to correct the above translations a bit. Ante RadoniÄ‡ didn&#039;t say they&#039;re urging people with video footage to some forward but that the survaillance camera footage needs to be examined as those cameras would&#039;ve been the only ones that could capture the bolide (especially in area near Jastrebarsko). Also, as previously mentioned the clip in news report is unrelated to this sightig as  NovaTV admitted the footage is archive.
While I live in Å ibenik I hadn&#039;t the luck of seeing it myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to correct the above translations a bit. Ante RadoniÄ‡ didn&#8217;t say they&#8217;re urging people with video footage to some forward but that the survaillance camera footage needs to be examined as those cameras would&#8217;ve been the only ones that could capture the bolide (especially in area near Jastrebarsko). Also, as previously mentioned the clip in news report is unrelated to this sightig as  NovaTV admitted the footage is archive.<br />
While I live in Å ibenik I hadn&#8217;t the luck of seeing it myself.</p>
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