Comments on: Is it hot in here, or is it just me? http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/08/10/is-it-hot-in-here-or-is-it-just-me/ I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog. Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:20:04 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Doodler http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/08/10/is-it-hot-in-here-or-is-it-just-me/comment-page-3/#comment-45488 Doodler Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:52:41 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/08/10/is-it-hot-in-here-or-is-it-just-me/#comment-45488 *really wishes he could edit blog posts* Also consider the industrial boom of the 1920s. *really wishes he could edit blog posts*

Also consider the industrial boom of the 1920s.

]]> By: Doodler http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/08/10/is-it-hot-in-here-or-is-it-just-me/comment-page-3/#comment-45487 Doodler Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:51:10 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/08/10/is-it-hot-in-here-or-is-it-just-me/#comment-45487 For those wondering, I mean Roosevelt's New Deal and the Lend Lease Act build up that prepared the US for its eventual entry into World War II, along with Germany's massive rearmament and industrial renewal efforts in the mid 1930s prior to the invasion of Poland. Why levels fell off afterward? One: Mobilizing troops drew down some of the initial industrial surge Two: A great deal of the European Industrial infrastructure was shattered. Three: I imagine the sheer amount of explosive firepower constantly unleashed over the course of almost ten years of constant warfare probably lofted a significant amount of particulate matter into the air that may have acted like a volcanic eruption's contribution to lacking air quality. For those wondering, I mean Roosevelt’s New Deal and the Lend Lease Act build up that prepared the US for its eventual entry into World War II, along with Germany’s massive rearmament and industrial renewal efforts in the mid 1930s prior to the invasion of Poland.

Why levels fell off afterward?

One: Mobilizing troops drew down some of the initial industrial surge

Two: A great deal of the European Industrial infrastructure was shattered.

Three: I imagine the sheer amount of explosive firepower constantly unleashed over the course of almost ten years of constant warfare probably lofted a significant amount of particulate matter into the air that may have acted like a volcanic eruption’s contribution to lacking air quality.

]]> By: Doodler http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/08/10/is-it-hot-in-here-or-is-it-just-me/comment-page-3/#comment-45486 Doodler Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:46:35 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/08/10/is-it-hot-in-here-or-is-it-just-me/#comment-45486 Interesting. Any coincidence that the 1930s would also fall into alignment with one of the most massive military/industrial build ups in the history of the Industrial Age? You think industry now isn't green, consider what we were doing back then. Interesting. Any coincidence that the 1930s would also fall into alignment with one of the most massive military/industrial build ups in the history of the Industrial Age?

You think industry now isn’t green, consider what we were doing back then.

]]> By: MarkR http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/08/10/is-it-hot-in-here-or-is-it-just-me/comment-page-3/#comment-45485 MarkR Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:31:46 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/08/10/is-it-hot-in-here-or-is-it-just-me/#comment-45485 If CO2 increase is the overwhelming main driver for temperature increase, how come Global Temperatures went down after the 1930's? Answer CO2 doesn't have any effect on temperature, and never has done. > Q.E.D. http://mysite.verizon.net/mhieb/WVFossils/PageMill_Images/image277.gif If CO2 increase is the overwhelming main driver for temperature increase, how come Global Temperatures went down after the 1930’s?

Answer CO2 doesn’t have any effect on temperature, and never has done.

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Q.E.D.

http://mysite.verizon.net/mhieb/WVFossils/PageMill_Images/image277.gif

]]> By: Sam Urbinto http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/08/10/is-it-hot-in-here-or-is-it-just-me/comment-page-3/#comment-45484 Sam Urbinto Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:08:25 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/08/10/is-it-hot-in-here-or-is-it-just-me/#comment-45484 Chip, you mentioned something interesting, the effects of particulates in the air from pollution. Now, the question is, if CO2 is causing the warmng and the particulates are partially masking the warming, could we also say the particulates are causing cooling and the CO2 is masking the cooling? Can we really remove one component from an interlocked system? Or to me an even more important question, can we really define global temperature as a single, quantifyable thing in the first place? Regardless, it's clear we create pollution. Chip, you mentioned something interesting, the effects of particulates in the air from pollution.

Now, the question is, if CO2 is causing the warmng and the particulates are partially masking the warming, could we also say the particulates are causing cooling and the CO2 is masking the cooling?

Can we really remove one component from an interlocked system? Or to me an even more important question, can we really define global temperature as a single, quantifyable thing in the first place?

Regardless, it’s clear we create pollution.

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