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	<title>Comments on: Can *I* torture people who say things I don&#8217;t like?</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Irishman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not about being nice so maybe they&#039;ll be nice back.  It&#039;s a moral choice.  Torture is evil. I am not evil. I do not condone the use of torture.  If you do condone torture, you are no better than the terrorists - you are, in fact, a terrorist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about being nice so maybe they&#8217;ll be nice back.  It&#8217;s a moral choice.  Torture is evil. I am not evil. I do not condone the use of torture.  If you do condone torture, you are no better than the terrorists &#8211; you are, in fact, a terrorist.</p>
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		<title>By: solorunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>solorunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have no problem with ANY adminstration torturing our enemies. The ignorance of thinking if we treat them nice they will be nice back is a farce. Terrorists respond only to the infliction of great physical pain or death. They want nothing less then that for every person not associated with thier religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have no problem with ANY adminstration torturing our enemies. The ignorance of thinking if we treat them nice they will be nice back is a farce. Terrorists respond only to the infliction of great physical pain or death. They want nothing less then that for every person not associated with thier religion.</p>
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		<title>By: EJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>EJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murff &amp; Tom - here&#039;s a good article on liquid explosive, which is what the bans on liquids is supposedly protecting us from:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/17/flying_toilet_terror_labs/

The short version - there are a few explosives that can be made by mixing together harmless, common liquids.  However it&#039;s not like the gum in Mission Impossible - mash the two halves together, 30 seconds later, BOOM!

You have to mix them together under carefully controlled conditions for a considerable period of time - it&#039;s just not realistic that anyone could pull it off on a plane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murff &amp; Tom &#8211; here&#8217;s a good article on liquid explosive, which is what the bans on liquids is supposedly protecting us from:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/17/flying_toilet_terror_labs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/17/flying_toilet_terror_labs/</a></p>
<p>The short version &#8211; there are a few explosives that can be made by mixing together harmless, common liquids.  However it&#8217;s not like the gum in Mission Impossible &#8211; mash the two halves together, 30 seconds later, BOOM!</p>
<p>You have to mix them together under carefully controlled conditions for a considerable period of time &#8211; it&#8217;s just not realistic that anyone could pull it off on a plane.</p>
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		<title>By: KaiYeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>KaiYeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken S, I always thought the Ben Franklin quote was &quot;...to PRESERVE a little Temporary Safety...&quot; Which can basically describe why the Old Republic fell in Star Wars. By the way, I was playing a game the other day with a friend where we asked &quot;If Palpatine came to your door asking for a glass of water, what would you do?&quot;
Me, I hope I&#039;d be brave enough to hand him a cup of gasoline and run away, really fast, but I&#039;d probably just hide in my basement and pretend I wasn&#039;t home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken S, I always thought the Ben Franklin quote was &#8220;&#8230;to PRESERVE a little Temporary Safety&#8230;&#8221; Which can basically describe why the Old Republic fell in Star Wars. By the way, I was playing a game the other day with a friend where we asked &#8220;If Palpatine came to your door asking for a glass of water, what would you do?&#8221;<br />
Me, I hope I&#8217;d be brave enough to hand him a cup of gasoline and run away, really fast, but I&#8217;d probably just hide in my basement and pretend I wasn&#8217;t home.</p>
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		<title>By: Just windering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just windering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the astronomy?  This has become a Bush bashing website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the astronomy?  This has become a Bush bashing website.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Murff, for what you&#039;re doin&#039; there and what you&#039;re sayin&#039; here.

I feel a small portion of your pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Murff, for what you&#8217;re doin&#8217; there and what you&#8217;re sayin&#8217; here.</p>
<p>I feel a small portion of your pain.</p>
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		<title>By: Murff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 04:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurie D. T. Mann - The Whistleblower article is very disturbing.  I&#039;m in the USAF and we have a Fraud, Waste, and Abuse system to report things.  The biggest part of that program is a direct hotline to the I.G. Office, and you can report things anon.  If you reported anon. and nothing was done, I&#039;m not actually sure where you would turn...of course, I&#039;ve never seen things like this happening, I&#039;m just a Jet Engine Mechanic :)

Thanks for feeling my pain with regards to my employeers.  You have to realize that the people here don&#039;t feel we are here because of oil or other government agendas.  We see the help we provide these people on a daily basis, and we see the gratitude from the majority of the Iraqi&#039;s.  These people deserve better, and if you could see how hard most of them work, you&#039;d be amazed.  That&#039;s another thing you don&#039;t see on CNN, the average Iraqi going to work 12 hours a day to feed his family...and having to do it worried about car bombs and suicide attacks.  He&#039;s the real hero, because he has to do this while not wearing body armor, not driving around in an armored vehicle, and not carrying weapons to defend himself or his family.  He hates the terrorists as much as we do, because they indiscriminately attack/kill anyone.

I can&#039;t wait to get back home and see my wife and kids!!  12 days and the wheels hit the ground!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurie D. T. Mann &#8211; The Whistleblower article is very disturbing.  I&#8217;m in the USAF and we have a Fraud, Waste, and Abuse system to report things.  The biggest part of that program is a direct hotline to the I.G. Office, and you can report things anon.  If you reported anon. and nothing was done, I&#8217;m not actually sure where you would turn&#8230;of course, I&#8217;ve never seen things like this happening, I&#8217;m just a Jet Engine Mechanic <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for feeling my pain with regards to my employeers.  You have to realize that the people here don&#8217;t feel we are here because of oil or other government agendas.  We see the help we provide these people on a daily basis, and we see the gratitude from the majority of the Iraqi&#8217;s.  These people deserve better, and if you could see how hard most of them work, you&#8217;d be amazed.  That&#8217;s another thing you don&#8217;t see on CNN, the average Iraqi going to work 12 hours a day to feed his family&#8230;and having to do it worried about car bombs and suicide attacks.  He&#8217;s the real hero, because he has to do this while not wearing body armor, not driving around in an armored vehicle, and not carrying weapons to defend himself or his family.  He hates the terrorists as much as we do, because they indiscriminately attack/kill anyone.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to get back home and see my wife and kids!!  12 days and the wheels hit the ground!</p>
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