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	<title>Comments on: The Amazing Cruise: Day 1</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Peter McGrath</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/09/03/the-amazing-cruise-day-1/comment-page-1/#comment-47916</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter McGrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you see the eyesplices on those mooring lines?

Oh, hope you enjoyed the cruise...</description>
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<p>Oh, hope you enjoyed the cruise&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like you had a lot of fun :)</description>
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		<title>By: John Morales</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Morales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Fournier, you consider Trappists &quot;the ideal flight crew for a long duration mission to Mars&quot;?

1. This seems awfully Trollish.

2. These &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ocso.org/HTM/net/faq-eng.htm#come&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;are they&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Fournier, you consider Trappists &#8220;the ideal flight crew for a long duration mission to Mars&#8221;?</p>
<p>1. This seems awfully Trollish.</p>
<p>2. These <a href="http://www.ocso.org/HTM/net/faq-eng.htm#come" rel="nofollow">are they</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Gary; that&#039;s interesting, to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gary; that&#8217;s interesting, to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MArk MArtin: 3.9 gigaWatts is about what Orion could output. I was actually thinking of the EIC Boron11/Proton cycle proposed by Bussard. He estimated that 95% of the power generated would be in alpha particles, which could be used to generate electricity directly. I just used the 140Mw number because it&#039;s the typical power output of a nuc. sub fission reactor. I expect Bussards reactor design could be upscaled significantly, though with 5% of its energy production being thermal, that&#039;s still a lot of heat. In Bussards design proposal, using the EIC reactor design and a Boron /proton cycle, the residual thermal energy is used to preheat the reactant. Further acceleration of that reactant mass was electrically induced.  At the 57th International Astronautical Congress, Bussard presented a 30 page paper describing Superperformance space power and propulsion, using the EIC reactor. Cool paper,,,

Squid: $1000 I could handle,,,$10,000,,,NOT! Thanks for the input, though. Gives me something to dream about.

GAry 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MArk MArtin: 3.9 gigaWatts is about what Orion could output. I was actually thinking of the EIC Boron11/Proton cycle proposed by Bussard. He estimated that 95% of the power generated would be in alpha particles, which could be used to generate electricity directly. I just used the 140Mw number because it&#8217;s the typical power output of a nuc. sub fission reactor. I expect Bussards reactor design could be upscaled significantly, though with 5% of its energy production being thermal, that&#8217;s still a lot of heat. In Bussards design proposal, using the EIC reactor design and a Boron /proton cycle, the residual thermal energy is used to preheat the reactant. Further acceleration of that reactant mass was electrically induced.  At the 57th International Astronautical Congress, Bussard presented a 30 page paper describing Superperformance space power and propulsion, using the EIC reactor. Cool paper,,,</p>
<p>Squid: $1000 I could handle,,,$10,000,,,NOT! Thanks for the input, though. Gives me something to dream about.</p>
<p>GAry 7</p>
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		<title>By: Evolving Squid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evolving Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I hope you get to go to Sitka (where I live) but only about 10-15% of the cruise ships get here.&lt;/i&gt;

The cruise I was on visited Sitka.  In all my cephalopodic glory, I ran about the town.

Actually, I mostly visited the bird rehabilitation centre, an inhabitant of which you can see &lt;a href=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/dcowan38/board_posts/sitkasquid.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I hope you get to go to Sitka (where I live) but only about 10-15% of the cruise ships get here.</i></p>
<p>The cruise I was on visited Sitka.  In all my cephalopodic glory, I ran about the town.</p>
<p>Actually, I mostly visited the bird rehabilitation centre, an inhabitant of which you can see <a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/dcowan38/board_posts/sitkasquid.jpg" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lurchgs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lurchgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man, I&#039;m homesick,

I used to live in Sitka and Juneau - I *really* miss the old splashing grounds.

I do have a suggestion for those of you who really want to see the area.  Skip the cruise ship.  Book a ride on the Alaska Marine Highway.  It&#039;s a lot cheaper, and, in my experience, you see a heck of a lot more.

Not as much as from a 180 ft Buoy Tender, and I was PAID for that!  But still, it&#039;s a hell of a trip and worth every penny.  (last time I looked, you could stagger your trip - ferry to Ketchikan, for instance - fool around there.. catch the next ferry north to.. oh.. Juneau... take a few days to do the local ferry/tour ships, etc)

I wonder if Rosie&#039;s is still in Pelican...

Phil - as you cruise past the northern tip of Admiralty Island, pay attention to the lighthouse.  I&#039;m negotiating (ok begging) with the Coast Guard to let me retire there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man, I&#8217;m homesick,</p>
<p>I used to live in Sitka and Juneau &#8211; I *really* miss the old splashing grounds.</p>
<p>I do have a suggestion for those of you who really want to see the area.  Skip the cruise ship.  Book a ride on the Alaska Marine Highway.  It&#8217;s a lot cheaper, and, in my experience, you see a heck of a lot more.</p>
<p>Not as much as from a 180 ft Buoy Tender, and I was PAID for that!  But still, it&#8217;s a hell of a trip and worth every penny.  (last time I looked, you could stagger your trip &#8211; ferry to Ketchikan, for instance &#8211; fool around there.. catch the next ferry north to.. oh.. Juneau&#8230; take a few days to do the local ferry/tour ships, etc)</p>
<p>I wonder if Rosie&#8217;s is still in Pelican&#8230;</p>
<p>Phil &#8211; as you cruise past the northern tip of Admiralty Island, pay attention to the lighthouse.  I&#8217;m negotiating (ok begging) with the Coast Guard to let me retire there.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Fournier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Fournier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, seeing as how you have access to all these bright minds, you might find it fun to have them consider this:

A long time ago, in a place called &quot;The Canadian Communications Research Centre&#039;,  where I worked as a writer, editor, liaison with NASA, coordinator of inter government meetings and design reviews - and so, a general factotum, I was asked what I considered to be the ideal flight crew for a long duration mission to Mars.

After reflection, allowing others smarter than me to express their views on the matter, I suggested they should select the crew from among Trappist monks.  Monks tend to be very erudite, adaptable and have a great thirst for knowledge.  Especially, they have learned patience in putting up with the irritations of living in community without putting their desires for murder and mayhem into practice.

As they are eminently educable, they could easily pick up all the knowledge and skills such a voyage would be needed of them.  Their common language, whether Latin or Greek would help to avoid emotional assesments of technical problems, and their discipline of silence would be ideal in fostering cooperative living.

If they should die owing to technical failure, then their deaths would
serene, though perhaps not without a yelp or two.

I confess the idea is not mine alone, as I had read &quot;A Canticle for Leibowitz&quot;  around the time of this discussion.

Objections raised:  The spacecraft would need to incorporate a chapel;  Mass wine for a two and half to three year trip would have to be added to the vittles, thus adding weight.  As all communication would be in one sacred language or another, reports would need to be translated for the engineers on the ground who are, as everyone knows, incapable of learning a second language unless it happens to be acronyms.  Upon their return, it would be impossible for the President of the United States to decorate them and have them to supper at the White House.

Still, it&#039;s a thought, and a darn sight better than selecting boys and girls for the trip... speaking for myself, I&#039;d murder the first one to use hair spray - with my bare hands.

What do you think ?

Cordially,
Paul  Fournier</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, seeing as how you have access to all these bright minds, you might find it fun to have them consider this:</p>
<p>A long time ago, in a place called &#8220;The Canadian Communications Research Centre&#8217;,  where I worked as a writer, editor, liaison with NASA, coordinator of inter government meetings and design reviews &#8211; and so, a general factotum, I was asked what I considered to be the ideal flight crew for a long duration mission to Mars.</p>
<p>After reflection, allowing others smarter than me to express their views on the matter, I suggested they should select the crew from among Trappist monks.  Monks tend to be very erudite, adaptable and have a great thirst for knowledge.  Especially, they have learned patience in putting up with the irritations of living in community without putting their desires for murder and mayhem into practice.</p>
<p>As they are eminently educable, they could easily pick up all the knowledge and skills such a voyage would be needed of them.  Their common language, whether Latin or Greek would help to avoid emotional assesments of technical problems, and their discipline of silence would be ideal in fostering cooperative living.</p>
<p>If they should die owing to technical failure, then their deaths would<br />
serene, though perhaps not without a yelp or two.</p>
<p>I confess the idea is not mine alone, as I had read &#8220;A Canticle for Leibowitz&#8221;  around the time of this discussion.</p>
<p>Objections raised:  The spacecraft would need to incorporate a chapel;  Mass wine for a two and half to three year trip would have to be added to the vittles, thus adding weight.  As all communication would be in one sacred language or another, reports would need to be translated for the engineers on the ground who are, as everyone knows, incapable of learning a second language unless it happens to be acronyms.  Upon their return, it would be impossible for the President of the United States to decorate them and have them to supper at the White House.</p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;s a thought, and a darn sight better than selecting boys and girls for the trip&#8230; speaking for myself, I&#8217;d murder the first one to use hair spray &#8211; with my bare hands.</p>
<p>What do you think ?</p>
<p>Cordially,<br />
Paul  Fournier</p>
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		<title>By: Crux Australis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crux Australis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, your stop signs are just like ours!</description>
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		<title>By: DCB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DCB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you get to go to Sitka (where I live) but only about 10-15% of the cruise ships get here.  This is where all the Alaska history is located so I am always sad about how many miss us!   Have a wonderful time!   And for every envious person it really is less expensive than you think it might be to cruise.  Remember, all your meals are included in that price and the only additional cost will be of your own choosing: shore excursions, liquor, etc.   Cruise on!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you get to go to Sitka (where I live) but only about 10-15% of the cruise ships get here.  This is where all the Alaska history is located so I am always sad about how many miss us!   Have a wonderful time!   And for every envious person it really is less expensive than you think it might be to cruise.  Remember, all your meals are included in that price and the only additional cost will be of your own choosing: shore excursions, liquor, etc.   Cruise on!!</p>
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		<title>By: Svlad Cjelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Svlad Cjelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool. Just this thing, though... I&#039;M a sour, dour jerk! ;P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool. Just this thing, though&#8230; I&#8217;M a sour, dour jerk! ;P</p>
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		<title>By: Candice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah. So jealous! My friends and I are all broke-ass 20-somethings, so we can never manage to go to any of these events (least of all, ones like this!) Maybe we&#039;ll save up enough pennies one of these... years...

I wonder if the costs involved with these big events are part of the reason people don&#039;t often realize there are so many of us young&#039;uns. It would DEFINITELY be great to see more things happening locally. Bus fare... that&#039;s something I could potentially afford. Unfortunately, I&#039;m not much of an organizer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah. So jealous! My friends and I are all broke-ass 20-somethings, so we can never manage to go to any of these events (least of all, ones like this!) Maybe we&#8217;ll save up enough pennies one of these&#8230; years&#8230;</p>
<p>I wonder if the costs involved with these big events are part of the reason people don&#8217;t often realize there are so many of us young&#8217;uns. It would DEFINITELY be great to see more things happening locally. Bus fare&#8230; that&#8217;s something I could potentially afford. Unfortunately, I&#8217;m not much of an organizer.</p>
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		<title>By: Dude84</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dude84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, while you&#039;re cruising Glacier Bay and find time on your hands, you might check out &quot;The Only Kayak&quot; by Kim Heacox.  Should be available in the ship&#039;s library.

Thought-provoking though a bit timid when it comes to suggesting root cause.

http://www.amazon.com/Only-Kayak-Journey-Heart-Alaska/dp/1592288944/ref=sr_1_1/105-9762753-8142051?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1188926213&amp;sr=1-1 .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, while you&#8217;re cruising Glacier Bay and find time on your hands, you might check out &#8220;The Only Kayak&#8221; by Kim Heacox.  Should be available in the ship&#8217;s library.</p>
<p>Thought-provoking though a bit timid when it comes to suggesting root cause.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Only-Kayak-Journey-Heart-Alaska/dp/1592288944/ref=sr_1_1/105-9762753-8142051?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1188926213&#038;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Only-Kayak-Journey-Heart-Alaska/dp/1592288944/ref=sr_1_1/105-9762753-8142051?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1188926213&#038;sr=1-1</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: Evolving Squid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evolving Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I know youâ€™re just joking off the cuff, but that prompts me to calculate that itâ€™d take power &gt; 3.9 gigawatts to sustain an acceleration radially away from Earth (for a ship of that tonnage). Thatâ€™s like the combined output of several typical domestic fission reactors. This sounds like a job for Project Orion.

&lt;/i&gt;

Nuh uh... 1000 yogic flyers bouncing on their butts can harness their positive vibrations to yogically bounce the ship right off the face of the earth.

Alternately, 1000 devotees praying to their invisible sky-man can have Him will the ship off the planet for no energy.

Another way would be to get everyone in China to jump up and down simultaneously.  The resulting seismic shock would bounce the ship to the moon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I know youâ€™re just joking off the cuff, but that prompts me to calculate that itâ€™d take power &gt; 3.9 gigawatts to sustain an acceleration radially away from Earth (for a ship of that tonnage). Thatâ€™s like the combined output of several typical domestic fission reactors. This sounds like a job for Project Orion.</p>
<p></i></p>
<p>Nuh uh&#8230; 1000 yogic flyers bouncing on their butts can harness their positive vibrations to yogically bounce the ship right off the face of the earth.</p>
<p>Alternately, 1000 devotees praying to their invisible sky-man can have Him will the ship off the planet for no energy.</p>
<p>Another way would be to get everyone in China to jump up and down simultaneously.  The resulting seismic shock would bounce the ship to the moon.</p>
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		<title>By: Evolving Squid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evolving Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So, how much does a berth aboard such a cool vessel cost these days? Just wondering if it would be an attainable vacation for a retiree.

&lt;/i&gt;

Depends on the cruise line and the cabin you wish to be in, but figure on something like $1000 - $10000 per person, not counting air fare to/from the departure point.

On some cruise lines, if you book early, you can basically book a bilge level cabin at the bilge level price, and be bumped up to better cabins at no extra charge as later and later bookings request the cheaper cabins.  That can save a bundle but you have to plan far in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So, how much does a berth aboard such a cool vessel cost these days? Just wondering if it would be an attainable vacation for a retiree.</p>
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<p>Depends on the cruise line and the cabin you wish to be in, but figure on something like $1000 &#8211; $10000 per person, not counting air fare to/from the departure point.</p>
<p>On some cruise lines, if you book early, you can basically book a bilge level cabin at the bilge level price, and be bumped up to better cabins at no extra charge as later and later bookings request the cheaper cabins.  That can save a bundle but you have to plan far in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary,

I know you&#039;re just joking off the cuff, but that prompts me to calculate that it&#039;d take power &gt; 3.9 gigawatts to sustain an acceleration radially away from Earth (for a ship of that tonnage). That&#039;s like the combined output of several typical domestic fission reactors. This sounds like a job for Project Orion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary,</p>
<p>I know you&#8217;re just joking off the cuff, but that prompts me to calculate that it&#8217;d take power &gt; 3.9 gigawatts to sustain an acceleration radially away from Earth (for a ship of that tonnage). That&#8217;s like the combined output of several typical domestic fission reactors. This sounds like a job for Project Orion.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/09/03/the-amazing-cruise-day-1/comment-page-1/#comment-47900</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see, 1000 feet long, 91000 tons,mumble, mumble,,,I think all we&#039;d need would be a Bussard Fusion reactor of 140 mega watts to launch that sucker into orbit,,,Then what a wonderful party that could be.

Oops, forgot about there being no atmosphere. Ah well, it was a good idea anyway.

So, do you get to see any killer whales or such like?

About a decade ago, I watched seals chase salmon ashore just north of the Russian River on the Calif. Coast. That was quite a sight and the Salmon was delicious.

So, how much does a berth aboard such a cool vessel cost these days? Just wondering if it would be an attainable vacation for a retiree.

GAry 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see, 1000 feet long, 91000 tons,mumble, mumble,,,I think all we&#8217;d need would be a Bussard Fusion reactor of 140 mega watts to launch that sucker into orbit,,,Then what a wonderful party that could be.</p>
<p>Oops, forgot about there being no atmosphere. Ah well, it was a good idea anyway.</p>
<p>So, do you get to see any killer whales or such like?</p>
<p>About a decade ago, I watched seals chase salmon ashore just north of the Russian River on the Calif. Coast. That was quite a sight and the Salmon was delicious.</p>
<p>So, how much does a berth aboard such a cool vessel cost these days? Just wondering if it would be an attainable vacation for a retiree.</p>
<p>GAry 7</p>
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		<title>By: Foretopman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/09/03/the-amazing-cruise-day-1/comment-page-1/#comment-47899</link>
		<dc:creator>Foretopman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure you don&#039;t mind a little constructive criticism: your ship *displaces* 91,000 tons; a ship doesn&#039;t draught anything. (It might *have a draft* of about 20 feet, in which case you say it *draws* 20 feet.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure you don&#8217;t mind a little constructive criticism: your ship *displaces* 91,000 tons; a ship doesn&#8217;t draught anything. (It might *have a draft* of about 20 feet, in which case you say it *draws* 20 feet.)</p>
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		<title>By: KaiYeves</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/09/03/the-amazing-cruise-day-1/comment-page-1/#comment-47898</link>
		<dc:creator>KaiYeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be sure to meet other skeptics somewhere with air hockey tables! Everybody loves air hockey! By the way, BA, have you heard this song? It&#039;s stuck in my head: http://www.desertturtle.com/SpaceShipOne-Song.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be sure to meet other skeptics somewhere with air hockey tables! Everybody loves air hockey! By the way, BA, have you heard this song? It&#8217;s stuck in my head: <a href="http://www.desertturtle.com/SpaceShipOne-Song.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.desertturtle.com/SpaceShipOne-Song.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Grand Lunar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/09/03/the-amazing-cruise-day-1/comment-page-1/#comment-47897</link>
		<dc:creator>Grand Lunar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I want one shot. Just one is all I ask. One shot of Randi leaning over the rail in the classic â€œTitanicâ€ poseâ€¦ â€œIâ€™m king of the Woo-Woo rld!â€&quot;


Ditto on that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I want one shot. Just one is all I ask. One shot of Randi leaning over the rail in the classic â€œTitanicâ€ poseâ€¦ â€œIâ€™m king of the Woo-Woo rld!â€&#8221;</p>
<p>Ditto on that!</p>
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		<title>By: DennyMo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/09/03/the-amazing-cruise-day-1/comment-page-1/#comment-47896</link>
		<dc:creator>DennyMo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I was particularly taken with a question on how to get skeptics together locally and how to support such a thing.&quot;

You mean, kinda like a church?  (Sorry, couldn&#039;t resist...)  Enjoy yourself, and don&#039;t spew Pepsi all over the place while reading the comments on your Colbert call-out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I was particularly taken with a question on how to get skeptics together locally and how to support such a thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean, kinda like a church?  (Sorry, couldn&#8217;t resist&#8230;)  Enjoy yourself, and don&#8217;t spew Pepsi all over the place while reading the comments on your Colbert call-out.</p>
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		<title>By: One Eyed Jack</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/09/03/the-amazing-cruise-day-1/comment-page-1/#comment-47895</link>
		<dc:creator>One Eyed Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want one shot.  Just one is all I ask.  One shot of Randi leaning over the rail in the classic &quot;Titanic&quot; pose...  &quot;I&#039;m king of the Woo-Woo rld!&quot;

And yes, I too am very jealous.

-OEJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want one shot.  Just one is all I ask.  One shot of Randi leaning over the rail in the classic &#8220;Titanic&#8221; pose&#8230;  &#8220;I&#8217;m king of the Woo-Woo rld!&#8221;</p>
<p>And yes, I too am very jealous.</p>
<p>-OEJ</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/09/03/the-amazing-cruise-day-1/comment-page-1/#comment-47894</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds awesome! And that&#039;s REALLY an intimidating ship...

I wish I would&#039;ve been there, but it&#039;s a bit costly for a young just-out-of-college girl like me. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds awesome! And that&#8217;s REALLY an intimidating ship&#8230;</p>
<p>I wish I would&#8217;ve been there, but it&#8217;s a bit costly for a young just-out-of-college girl like me. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/09/03/the-amazing-cruise-day-1/comment-page-1/#comment-47893</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 06:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an amazing ship! (Aesthetically beautiful too.)</description>
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		<title>By: Reed E</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/09/03/the-amazing-cruise-day-1/comment-page-1/#comment-47892</link>
		<dc:creator>Reed E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Hal, the score for TAA plugs is...

Skepticamp: 1
Drinking Skeptically: 0

Win!

(Actually, I just may be involved with both.  :^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Hal, the score for TAA plugs is&#8230;</p>
<p>Skepticamp: 1<br />
Drinking Skeptically: 0</p>
<p>Win!</p>
<p>(Actually, I just may be involved with both.  :^)</p>
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