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	<title>Comments on: The Amazing Cruise: Day 3</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Grumpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 04:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Strauss: &quot;Itâ€™s one of the most intense blues Iâ€™ve ever seen, and is even more impressive if you get to see it up close.&quot;

If you&#039;ve been on top of a glacier, the pools of meltwater on pure blue. The water is sitting in a white bowl, basically, so there&#039;s nothing to diminish the intrinsic blueness of H2O as the light streams through it. Alaska has a couple of drive-up glaciers: Mendenhall in Juneau, Worthington just north of Valdez, and Matanuska about a hour&#039;s drive from Anchorage. The entrance to Mat Glacier is on private property, but if you pay the fee it&#039;s probably the easiest way to hike on a glacier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Strauss: &#8220;Itâ€™s one of the most intense blues Iâ€™ve ever seen, and is even more impressive if you get to see it up close.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve been on top of a glacier, the pools of meltwater on pure blue. The water is sitting in a white bowl, basically, so there&#8217;s nothing to diminish the intrinsic blueness of H2O as the light streams through it. Alaska has a couple of drive-up glaciers: Mendenhall in Juneau, Worthington just north of Valdez, and Matanuska about a hour&#8217;s drive from Anchorage. The entrance to Mat Glacier is on private property, but if you pay the fee it&#8217;s probably the easiest way to hike on a glacier.</p>
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		<title>By: topoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>topoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 17:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There were several loud BANGS during the night, too&quot;

You mean THAT kind of bangs?

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There were several loud BANGS during the night, too&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean THAT kind of bangs?<br />
 <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Buzz Parsec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzz Parsec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s get this back on topic :-)

BA says he saw layers of sediment in the ice...  How many layers?  Were there more than 6000?  How did the Flood manage to freeze in layers with dirt in between, and not in one solid mass?  (That must be where glaciers came from, freezing flood waters, and not from thousands of years of snowfall, right?)

(Let&#039;s see if all the responders to the Colbert takedown thread take this seriously...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s get this back on topic <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>BA says he saw layers of sediment in the ice&#8230;  How many layers?  Were there more than 6000?  How did the Flood manage to freeze in layers with dirt in between, and not in one solid mass?  (That must be where glaciers came from, freezing flood waters, and not from thousands of years of snowfall, right?)</p>
<p>(Let&#8217;s see if all the responders to the Colbert takedown thread take this seriously&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: North Pole</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Pole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 05:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just returned from as close to the pole as any cruise ship has gone. Cold, but beautiful. Surprised at the coal mining on Svard Island that far North. Also you must carry a high powered rifle if you wander too far from the city. Polar Bears are a big problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just returned from as close to the pole as any cruise ship has gone. Cold, but beautiful. Surprised at the coal mining on Svard Island that far North. Also you must carry a high powered rifle if you wander too far from the city. Polar Bears are a big problem.</p>
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		<title>By: KaiYeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>KaiYeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 22:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seasickness sounds rough. Probably my worst travel experience was a red-eye Delta flight in economy class. I was in the middle seat, and tired like heck, but shutting my eyes just made the nausea worse. As you may know, sleeping in the middle seat is pretty darn hard, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seasickness sounds rough. Probably my worst travel experience was a red-eye Delta flight in economy class. I was in the middle seat, and tired like heck, but shutting my eyes just made the nausea worse. As you may know, sleeping in the middle seat is pretty darn hard, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Strauss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Strauss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, since we&#039;re doing Alaska and glacier pictures:
http://waltzking.org/photos/AmSafari/AKInsidePassage/20060904/

Also, http://waltzking.org/photos/AmSafari/AKInsidePassage/
which includes pictures of Juneau.  I hope Phil is having better weather than we did a year ago, because it rained every day we were there (but the sun also came out every day we were there).

I have to say Phil is right about the blue color of the glaciers; if you&#039;ve never seen it it&#039;s hard to describe and hard to capture properly in a photo.  It&#039;s one of the most intense blues I&#039;ve ever seen, and is even more impressive if you get to see it up close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, since we&#8217;re doing Alaska and glacier pictures:<br />
<a href="http://waltzking.org/photos/AmSafari/AKInsidePassage/20060904/" rel="nofollow">http://waltzking.org/photos/AmSafari/AKInsidePassage/20060904/</a></p>
<p>Also, <a href="http://waltzking.org/photos/AmSafari/AKInsidePassage/" rel="nofollow">http://waltzking.org/photos/AmSafari/AKInsidePassage/</a><br />
which includes pictures of Juneau.  I hope Phil is having better weather than we did a year ago, because it rained every day we were there (but the sun also came out every day we were there).</p>
<p>I have to say Phil is right about the blue color of the glaciers; if you&#8217;ve never seen it it&#8217;s hard to describe and hard to capture properly in a photo.  It&#8217;s one of the most intense blues I&#8217;ve ever seen, and is even more impressive if you get to see it up close.</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;  6-5 on a Blackjack? What does that mean?

They pay 6 to 5 when you get a 21 on the first two cards instead of 3 to 2.

Whether you play a system or basic strategy, one of the primary foundation stones of the players statistical advantage is the solid return base of the 3-2 payoff.

Removing that is an extra 1.4% advantage to the house. If you know much about gambling, you know that&#039;s a BIG number.

http://www.blackjack-primer.com/singledeck.php

They&#039;ve also ruined the video poker payouts. I liked VP to relax a bit between table gaming sessions. You could put in a $20 bill and play for quite a while and enjoy the free drinks and cocktail waitress costumes- and sometimes even walk away with &gt;$20.

Instead of 2-1 for two pair and 3-1 for three of a kind, it&#039;s 1-1 and 2-1 respectively. These seem like little things, but most of the payoffs in VP are those sorts of low end hands.

I&#039;m a huge free market supporter, but when an industry as endlessly profitable as gambling feels the need to squeeze its customers for every last penny, it&#039;s just depressing.

Vegas used to treat Joe Average like a champ. Casinos would comp you meals and rooms if you so much as peeked in the door. Prime cuts of beef could be had for $1.99 as late as the 1990s. All you can eat buffets were gifts.

Now he&#039;s just a chump. Now it&#039;s just a place for the idle semi-rich to be seen at the Wynn&#039;s Ferrari dealer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;  6-5 on a Blackjack? What does that mean?</p>
<p>They pay 6 to 5 when you get a 21 on the first two cards instead of 3 to 2.</p>
<p>Whether you play a system or basic strategy, one of the primary foundation stones of the players statistical advantage is the solid return base of the 3-2 payoff.</p>
<p>Removing that is an extra 1.4% advantage to the house. If you know much about gambling, you know that&#8217;s a BIG number.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blackjack-primer.com/singledeck.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackjack-primer.com/singledeck.php</a></p>
<p>They&#8217;ve also ruined the video poker payouts. I liked VP to relax a bit between table gaming sessions. You could put in a $20 bill and play for quite a while and enjoy the free drinks and cocktail waitress costumes- and sometimes even walk away with &gt;$20.</p>
<p>Instead of 2-1 for two pair and 3-1 for three of a kind, it&#8217;s 1-1 and 2-1 respectively. These seem like little things, but most of the payoffs in VP are those sorts of low end hands.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a huge free market supporter, but when an industry as endlessly profitable as gambling feels the need to squeeze its customers for every last penny, it&#8217;s just depressing.</p>
<p>Vegas used to treat Joe Average like a champ. Casinos would comp you meals and rooms if you so much as peeked in the door. Prime cuts of beef could be had for $1.99 as late as the 1990s. All you can eat buffets were gifts.</p>
<p>Now he&#8217;s just a chump. Now it&#8217;s just a place for the idle semi-rich to be seen at the Wynn&#8217;s Ferrari dealer.</p>
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		<title>By: Willo the Wisp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willo the Wisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how enthusiastic you are about this whole trip. I am so jealous of that fantastic glacier sailby. Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how enthusiastic you are about this whole trip. I am so jealous of that fantastic glacier sailby. Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Irishman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quiet_Desperation, 6-5 on a Blackjack?  What does that mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quiet_Desperation, 6-5 on a Blackjack?  What does that mean?</p>
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		<title>By: Mena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never been to Alaska and I&#039;m only familiar with the cracking noises that you hear when you are around land-only glaciers, like in the Canadian Rockies.  Is it similar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never been to Alaska and I&#8217;m only familiar with the cracking noises that you hear when you are around land-only glaciers, like in the Canadian Rockies.  Is it similar?</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet_Desperation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiet_Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt; Hey, certain hotels in Vegas charge extra
&gt;&gt;&gt; for that kind of thing.

Not really. Vegas seems to be on another of it&#039;s &quot;we&#039;re a clean family city!&quot; acid trips.The soulless hotel coporations have ruined it. 6-5 on a Blackjack? Blow me.

God, I wish they&#039;d put the mob back in charge of that place.

As long as you didn&#039;t act like a complete idiot, you&#039;d have a blast. Drinks, hookers, gambling, hookers, more drinks, more hookers, more gambling.

And they took care of any small time criminals that might harass customers outside the casinos. Took care of them way out, deep, deep into the desert. Probably all the way to the nuke testing ranges. Now THAT&#039;S freakin&#039; law enforcement, children!

Sigh...

What was the thread topic again?

Oh, cruise.

I can see going on a vacation with like minded folks. I keep threatening to go on one of those Macintosh cruises. But why the speeches? Aren&#039;t you preaching to the choir, or are you sharing ideas to fight to ignorant power?

Anyone have a way to teach ignorant gamblers that 6-5 on a BJ makes single deck worse than an eight deck shoe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Hey, certain hotels in Vegas charge extra<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; for that kind of thing.</p>
<p>Not really. Vegas seems to be on another of it&#8217;s &#8220;we&#8217;re a clean family city!&#8221; acid trips.The soulless hotel coporations have ruined it. 6-5 on a Blackjack? Blow me.</p>
<p>God, I wish they&#8217;d put the mob back in charge of that place.</p>
<p>As long as you didn&#8217;t act like a complete idiot, you&#8217;d have a blast. Drinks, hookers, gambling, hookers, more drinks, more hookers, more gambling.</p>
<p>And they took care of any small time criminals that might harass customers outside the casinos. Took care of them way out, deep, deep into the desert. Probably all the way to the nuke testing ranges. Now THAT&#8217;S freakin&#8217; law enforcement, children!</p>
<p>Sigh&#8230;</p>
<p>What was the thread topic again?</p>
<p>Oh, cruise.</p>
<p>I can see going on a vacation with like minded folks. I keep threatening to go on one of those Macintosh cruises. But why the speeches? Aren&#8217;t you preaching to the choir, or are you sharing ideas to fight to ignorant power?</p>
<p>Anyone have a way to teach ignorant gamblers that 6-5 on a BJ makes single deck worse than an eight deck shoe?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Almighty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Almighty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So - in the glacier, could you see the face of the man who won an award for designing that particular coastline?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8211; in the glacier, could you see the face of the man who won an award for designing that particular coastline?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a website called &quot;Atmospheric Optics&quot; that has all sorts of great pictures (and explanations) of just about anything atmosphere-related.

http://www.atoptics.co.uk/

A recently-added page is a photo that shows 6 (yes, *six*) rainbows.

http://www.atoptics.co.uk/rainbows/bowim6.htm

(Of course, there&#039;s nothing like seeing them in-person.  I wish I had a camera the time I saw a secondary rainbow so strong that I think I saw a tertiary rainbow.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a website called &#8220;Atmospheric Optics&#8221; that has all sorts of great pictures (and explanations) of just about anything atmosphere-related.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.atoptics.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.atoptics.co.uk/</a></p>
<p>A recently-added page is a photo that shows 6 (yes, *six*) rainbows.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.atoptics.co.uk/rainbows/bowim6.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.atoptics.co.uk/rainbows/bowim6.htm</a></p>
<p>(Of course, there&#8217;s nothing like seeing them in-person.  I wish I had a camera the time I saw a secondary rainbow so strong that I think I saw a tertiary rainbow.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fished for 30 years in Alaska; I still live here--stop by some time!When I heard a loud bang on the boat, I jumped up to see what caused it--if I wanted to live; it was my job.

The glaciers are melting at an increasingly fast rate--enjoy them while you can!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fished for 30 years in Alaska; I still live here&#8211;stop by some time!When I heard a loud bang on the boat, I jumped up to see what caused it&#8211;if I wanted to live; it was my job.</p>
<p>The glaciers are melting at an increasingly fast rate&#8211;enjoy them while you can!</p>
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		<title>By: Lurchgs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lurchgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>having spent a fair number of years cruising those waters in a steel hulled ship, I&#039;d venture to *guess* the bangs in the night were moderately sized chunks of ice bouncing off the hull. Or, possibly deadheads, but I&#039;m unsure how they&#039;d sound on hull that large.  It&#039;s also *possible* the ship hit a buoy or two - you&#039;d be surprised how often that happens...

However, generally speaking, I&#039;d say any simple *bang* is not worthy of worry.  a **BANG** followed by a host of other sounds (ripping metal, buzzers, kalaxons, or dematerialization) might well be a cause for worry.

I would also mention that the sound of running water - as in a stream or brook - is a very bad thing to hear aboard a ship.  I used to think &quot;made his blood run cold&quot; was poetic license.  &#039;Tain&#039;t so.

It&#039;s been my experience that seasickness is frequently related to the size and configuration of the ship.  As an example, I never got seasick on my 25ft cabin cruiser (fishing boat).. but if I was facing large seas (20ft plus - or 15 on the beam) I&#039;ve been known to make acquaintance with the local garbage can. On the buoy tenders, that is.  Round-bottomed ice-breaking hulls.  Nothing to counteract the motion of the ocean.  Ferries and cruise ships, on the other hand.. no problems experienced - no matter the size.  Trim tabs are mondo cool.

I&#039;m still jealous, though.  and homesick as hell.

[oops - note to self: stay away from angle brackets when emphasizing - silly software thinks it&#039;s an HTML tag]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>having spent a fair number of years cruising those waters in a steel hulled ship, I&#8217;d venture to *guess* the bangs in the night were moderately sized chunks of ice bouncing off the hull. Or, possibly deadheads, but I&#8217;m unsure how they&#8217;d sound on hull that large.  It&#8217;s also *possible* the ship hit a buoy or two &#8211; you&#8217;d be surprised how often that happens&#8230;</p>
<p>However, generally speaking, I&#8217;d say any simple *bang* is not worthy of worry.  a **BANG** followed by a host of other sounds (ripping metal, buzzers, kalaxons, or dematerialization) might well be a cause for worry.</p>
<p>I would also mention that the sound of running water &#8211; as in a stream or brook &#8211; is a very bad thing to hear aboard a ship.  I used to think &#8220;made his blood run cold&#8221; was poetic license.  &#8216;Tain&#8217;t so.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been my experience that seasickness is frequently related to the size and configuration of the ship.  As an example, I never got seasick on my 25ft cabin cruiser (fishing boat).. but if I was facing large seas (20ft plus &#8211; or 15 on the beam) I&#8217;ve been known to make acquaintance with the local garbage can. On the buoy tenders, that is.  Round-bottomed ice-breaking hulls.  Nothing to counteract the motion of the ocean.  Ferries and cruise ships, on the other hand.. no problems experienced &#8211; no matter the size.  Trim tabs are mondo cool.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still jealous, though.  and homesick as hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Lurchgs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lurchgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>having spent a fair number of years cruising those waters in a steel hulled ship, I&#039;d venture to *guess* the bangs in the night were moderately sized chunks of ice bouncing off the hull. Or, possibly deadheads, but I&#039;m unsure how they&#039;d sound on hull that large.  It&#039;s also *possible* the ship hit a buoy or two - you&#039;d be surprised how often that happens...

However, generally speaking, I&#039;d say any simple *bang* is not worthy of worry.  a &gt;&gt;BANG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>having spent a fair number of years cruising those waters in a steel hulled ship, I&#8217;d venture to *guess* the bangs in the night were moderately sized chunks of ice bouncing off the hull. Or, possibly deadheads, but I&#8217;m unsure how they&#8217;d sound on hull that large.  It&#8217;s also *possible* the ship hit a buoy or two &#8211; you&#8217;d be surprised how often that happens&#8230;</p>
<p>However, generally speaking, I&#8217;d say any simple *bang* is not worthy of worry.  a &gt;&gt;BANG</p>
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		<title>By: Lem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a physicist, you should be aware that the sway effects are least near the ship&#039;s center of gravity (low and mid-ship), and worse away from the center of gravity (high and fore or aft). Oddly the cheaper cabins on the lower decks are better for folks who are sensitive to sea-sickness.

If you&#039;re having trouble with the sway while shaving, (or just fitting into your shower - they&#039;re not very tall), try the locker room near the aqua-spa - which is much larger than your private bathroom, and closer to the center of the ship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a physicist, you should be aware that the sway effects are least near the ship&#8217;s center of gravity (low and mid-ship), and worse away from the center of gravity (high and fore or aft). Oddly the cheaper cabins on the lower decks are better for folks who are sensitive to sea-sickness.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re having trouble with the sway while shaving, (or just fitting into your shower &#8211; they&#8217;re not very tall), try the locker room near the aqua-spa &#8211; which is much larger than your private bathroom, and closer to the center of the ship.</p>
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		<title>By: MadProphet</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadProphet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, for all you who think they are pretty and want to see them, you better make plans fast. Won&#039;t be too long before they are all gone.

Global warming is impacting the arctic faster than anywhere else (at least visually), save perhaps the glaciers in the Alps.

We need a virus to course through the planetary population, but one that kills only stupid people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, for all you who think they are pretty and want to see them, you better make plans fast. Won&#8217;t be too long before they are all gone.</p>
<p>Global warming is impacting the arctic faster than anywhere else (at least visually), save perhaps the glaciers in the Alps.</p>
<p>We need a virus to course through the planetary population, but one that kills only stupid people.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BA, my wife and I were on pretty much the same cruise in June (different cruise line, Ketchikan-Juneau-Skagway), and we went up to the Sawyer glacier instead. I would bet real money that those bangs you heard were Infinity hitting wee glaciers that night -- we hit a few on our ship and the BANGs are very loud and can be felt all through the ship. Tres cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BA, my wife and I were on pretty much the same cruise in June (different cruise line, Ketchikan-Juneau-Skagway), and we went up to the Sawyer glacier instead. I would bet real money that those bangs you heard were Infinity hitting wee glaciers that night &#8212; we hit a few on our ship and the BANGs are very loud and can be felt all through the ship. Tres cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie D. T. Mann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie D. T. Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Great photos and no seasickness!!

Seriously, I&#039;d hope to take an Alaska cruise this year (I turned 50 and hoped to do that as a birthday celebration).  I still hope to go in the next few years, just not quite sure when.  I want to see the actual glaciers, and not just photos of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Great photos and no seasickness!!</p>
<p>Seriously, I&#8217;d hope to take an Alaska cruise this year (I turned 50 and hoped to do that as a birthday celebration).  I still hope to go in the next few years, just not quite sure when.  I want to see the actual glaciers, and not just photos of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Whiteside</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Whiteside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are amazing. They remind me of the big blue fluorites in the Natural History Museum in London. At the time I thought the looked like a surreal, comic book version of ice, and latterly maybe &lt;i&gt;Ice-Nine&lt;/i&gt;, but evidently I misjudged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are amazing. They remind me of the big blue fluorites in the Natural History Museum in London. At the time I thought the looked like a surreal, comic book version of ice, and latterly maybe <i>Ice-Nine</i>, but evidently I misjudged.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, to embiggen the smallest man, what a truly cromulent idea. So, Schizophrenia is the source of new words? No wonder women seem to like the crazies so much,,,they&#039;re the source of language. My only contribution to the English language is the word atanoid,,,defined as: the firm belief that the entire universe is working really, REALLY hard to make everything come out right for you,,, as opposed to paranoid, the realization that those enemies out there are just tax collectors,,,

An upside to global warming is that, in 10,000 years or so, there will be no pollution laden ice samples from our era for scientists to point to as proof of our profligate ways,,,Hey, no proof, no guilt, right?

Ancient ice cubes? Just right for my margarita.

Love the pics. Thanks, Phil.

GAry 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, to embiggen the smallest man, what a truly cromulent idea. So, Schizophrenia is the source of new words? No wonder women seem to like the crazies so much,,,they&#8217;re the source of language. My only contribution to the English language is the word atanoid,,,defined as: the firm belief that the entire universe is working really, REALLY hard to make everything come out right for you,,, as opposed to paranoid, the realization that those enemies out there are just tax collectors,,,</p>
<p>An upside to global warming is that, in 10,000 years or so, there will be no pollution laden ice samples from our era for scientists to point to as proof of our profligate ways,,,Hey, no proof, no guilt, right?</p>
<p>Ancient ice cubes? Just right for my margarita.</p>
<p>Love the pics. Thanks, Phil.</p>
<p>GAry 7</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Almighty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Almighty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Embiggen?  It&#039;s a perfectly cromulent word...</description>
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		<title>By: Michael H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;click the image to embiggen&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I cringed when I read that.
I looked it up in wiktionary. It&#039;s a neologism. One of the meanings of neologism is apparently:
&quot;The newly coined, meaningless words or phrases of someone with a Psychosis, usually Schizophrenia&quot;. I suppose that is what happens when you hang aroud Hubbard&#039;s glacier too long :)
Seriously though; thanks for the great commentary on the cruise. I am looking forward to more. Have fun.</description>
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<p>I cringed when I read that.<br />
I looked it up in wiktionary. It&#8217;s a neologism. One of the meanings of neologism is apparently:<br />
&#8220;The newly coined, meaningless words or phrases of someone with a Psychosis, usually Schizophrenia&#8221;. I suppose that is what happens when you hang aroud Hubbard&#8217;s glacier too long <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Seriously though; thanks for the great commentary on the cruise. I am looking forward to more. Have fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian B Gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian B Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I thought it was fun, at least until it was time to go to bed. We are on the 7th deck, at the very fore of the ship, and got the brunt of the action.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey, certain hotels in Vegas charge extra for that kind of thing.


&lt;blockquote&gt;There were several loud BANGS during the night, too. I have no clue what they were even now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Obviously the ships ghosts were disoriented and kept hovering into things.</description>
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<p>Hey, certain hotels in Vegas charge extra for that kind of thing.</p>
<blockquote><p>There were several loud BANGS during the night, too. I have no clue what they were even now.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obviously the ships ghosts were disoriented and kept hovering into things.</p>
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