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I think I’ve been to this talk. Hundreds of times.

Tip o’ the wattle to Blue Gal.

September 30th, 2007 7:55 PM by Phil Plait in Cool stuff, Humor, Science | 52 comments | RSS feed | Trackback >

52 Responses to “Chicken”

  1. 1.   Marc Connor Says:

    The presentation barely gets into it… Check out the (totally peer-reviewed) print version at http://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf

  2. 2.   Kenora Says:

    Thank you for this absolutely side-splitting vid! I have been in way too many of those myself….

  3. 3.   Wayne Says:

    Holy cow (I mean chicken), that was funny.

  4. 4.   chris Says:

    what the chicken?

    thats some funny chicken

  5. 5.   Chicken "Chicque" Chicken. Says:

    A little slower with a little more inflection, and it would be perfect. Still funny though. The question at the end was the chicken that put me over the chicken. The chicken, chickens chicken, chick chicken?

    Chicken chicken.

  6. 6.   John Paradox Says:

    IN rebuttal:

    egg

    J/P=?

  7. 7.   Shane Killian Says:

    Chicken = NChicken?

  8. 8.   Max Fagin Says:

    I don’t get it. What was the context of this? That might help.

  9. 9.   Anonymous Says:

    This is even better than the “mailing list” thesis.

    http://www.cs.stevens.edu/~ajain1/thesis.pdf is NOT the original link, but I couldn’t find it in the usual places…

  10. 10.   blue gal Says:

    Thanks for the linky love hon. Chicken chicken, and yes, I do mean it in that way.

  11. 11.   Troy Says:

    Some people still use dial up, could you please give an abstract of the content of videos?

  12. 12.   RawheaD Says:

    @Troy

    Here’s the abstract, straight from the PDF:

    Chicken

    Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken
    chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken
    chicken. Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken
    chicken. Chicken, chicken chicken chicken, chicken chicken, chicken
    chicken chicken “chicken chicken” chicken “chicken chicken”
    chicken. Chicken, chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken
    (chicken chicken) chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken,
    chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken
    chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken. Chicken chicken chicken
    chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken, chicken chicken
    chicken, chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.

    CC Chickens: C.3.2 [Chickens]: Chicken Chickens—chicken/chicken chicken; C.3.4
    [Chicken chicken]: Chicken chicken chicken—chickens; C.2.4 [Chicken-chicken
    chickens]: Chicken/Chicken, chicken chickens

    Chickens: chicken, chicken chicken, chicken, chicken

  13. 13.   Tim G Says:

    He made a mistake at 1:38.

    Did anyone else catch it?

  14. 14.   Doug Says:

    Wow, that REALLY reminds me of this cartoon by Jack McLaren (circa 1996):

    http://plif.andkon.com/archive/wc072.gif

    Check it out…
    Doug

  15. 15.   Kevin F. Says:

    Chicken.

  16. 16.   Evolving Squid Says:

    I’m with max on this one… I don’t get it. Is there some context?

  17. 17.   Mr. Upright Says:

    Sadly, I’ve given that talk a couple times. I think most of us have.

  18. 18.   Blake Stacey Says:

    Man, is the BA ever behind the times!

  19. 19.   Paul Parnell Says:

    Duck!

  20. 20.   oranchak.com » Blog Archive » Dry academia Says:

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  21. 21.   RAF Says:

    So basically, “look at this video” qualifies as a blog entry?

    Sheesh…

  22. 22.   Mus Says:

    I don’t get it either. I kinda get it, I think, but why is it THAT funny? why “chicken” and not some other word?

  23. 23.   Chris R. Says:

    I found it kind of funny, but I don’t understand why everyone in the audience is laughing hysterically at it…

  24. 24.   ColoRambler Says:

    I’m with max on this one… I don’t get it. Is there some context?

    Seminar presentations that make no more sense than this one. It’s probably a lot funnier to people who’ve been in academia a while.

    A few years back, I was in a university research group, and down the hall one professor had posted a paper (not actually submitted, alas) that consisted almost entirely of the word “Blah”, including the captions to graphs and most of the references.

    And yes, I couldn’t resist thinking of a certain Far Side cartoon when I saw that one…

  25. 25.   chicken Says:

    Chicken chicken chicken chicken, chickein chicken. Chicken chicken chicken chicken. Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.
    Chicken,
    Chicken

  26. 26.   What people hear « The Mendicant Bug Says:

    [...] the topic of presentations, I came across this video in the archives of Presentation Zen and then again on Bad Astronomy the same day. Coincidence or some hidden memetic [...]

  27. 27.   Ibrahim Says:

    I’m really surprised at you BA, posting this veiled attack on evolution. My counter-response,

    Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg. Egg, Egg Egg Egg, Egg, Egg Egg. Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg. Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg. Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg.

    Egg Egg Egg. Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg Egg? Egg Egg Egg, Egg, and Egg. Egg Egg Egg Egg (e.g. Egg Egg Egg Egg).

    So there!

  28. 28.   Chip Says:

    E(gg) = mc(chicken) 2

  29. 29.   Ed Minchau Says:

    Duck, duck, duck, duck, duck, duck, duck, duck, goose!

  30. 30.   Ibrahim Says:

    @ Chip

    I don’t eat fast food.

  31. 31.   Brad Says:

    The paper reminds me when, as an undergraduate with a few classes of mathematics that I believed were ‘advanced,’ I attempted to read a mathematical paper published in a journal. I thought, wrongly as it turned out, that because its subject was calculus that I would be able to understand its premises and outcomes. Chicken, for me, was just as good a result as the words written in the article.

    My wife will love it….

  32. 32.   Quiet_Desperation Says:

    John Paradox said, “IN rebuttal: egg”

    You win the thread.

  33. 33.   J. D. Mack Says:

    I prefer badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom!

    J. D.

    ( http://weebls-stuff.com/toons/badgers/ if you don’t know what I’m talking about)

  34. 34.   LarrySDonald Says:

    It’s a bit like the old saying “It’s interesting how all interesting news fit into exactly 30 minutes of newscast, every single day” with a hint of “if you follow the specified format and present whatever you have to present in the proper form, it’s not really so important that it contains any kind of information as such”.

    In terms of explanation, I feel it’s mostly about how experts (for real hard core people who know their field) are usually near incapable of holding a talk to average or so-so people because they instantly race ahead and have soon lost everyone, mostly speaking in near-tounges to an audience who mostly doodle and try to decide if it’s socially acceptable to get up and leave or if you have to fake nausea, stomach ache or a heart attack. Invariably they all sit around politely, hoping perhaps some later part will start making sense.

    My second calculus teacher approached this from the other direction. He’d explain, at length, everything everyone already sort of knew including details everyone knew. People would one by one simply start working quietly exchanging notes and whispers in pairs or threesomes on the matter (a slightly more useful and hands on way to get it). He would, every so often, ask obvious questions everyone knew, people were engrossed in discussion and didn’t really want to answer. He’d say “You know, if no one is listening anyway there is really no point at all in me standing here talking”. You could almost feel 30 minds internally saying “Damn straight – go talk one on one with the slower people or move on”. He’d say “Well, lets try this..” and launch into another problem or topic no more interesting then the first. Good times.

  35. 35.   Blondin Says:

    This reminds me of a prank my son told me about last week. He is doing post-grad work at our local Uni and he noticed that one of the Profs had written copious notes on a whiteboard to go with a biology lecture he was going to present the next morning. Nick added a note at the bottom that said something along the lines of “To see if everyone is reading these notes I would like you all to cluck like a chicken when ever I say the words …” and several key words followed that he knew were bound to come up in the lecture.

    Apparently nobody clucked. The Prof noticed the addition to his notes about half way through the lecture but didn’t let on. He wasn’t sure if nobody clucked because they didn’t take it seriously or just because they didn’t look at the notes.

    Maybe this is an old trick, I’d never heard of it before.

  36. 36.   PK Says:

    I suspect the audience is so hysterical because this may be an after dinner presentation, and most are already pretty tanked up.

    Love the badgers, though!

  37. 37.   Xavier Onassis Says:

    Now that was cluckin’ funny!

  38. 38.   Evolving Squid Says:

    Maybe this is an old trick, I’d never heard of it before.

    It’s an old trick.

    Back in 1985 my economics prof put a copy of the FINAL exam on the blackboard rack. Of 70 students, only a handful of us even noticed and took notes from it during breaks.

    On the last day of class he picked it up, told everyone what it was, and put it away. Needless to say, more than a few people wished they had paid more attention to what was going on around them.

  39. 39.   Nigel Depledge Says:

    What? But that’s just crazy talk. He was completely wrong. Right from the word “go”!

  40. 40.   Evolving Squid Says:

    And yes, when you go to a military university, you get to take economics and other arts courses in science and engineering programs :)

    Science profs never seemed to do stuff like that, although one of the math professors was very big on “read the whole question before answering” and his exams often had long questions where, if you read the whole question would have instructions like “this is a longwinded question, so prove that 3 is an odd number”, but if you just started reading and answering you’d get some brutally hard proof (prove Fermat’s last theorem in the margin of your exam booklet).

    We wore black/navy blue uniforms most of the time, so one of the solid-state physics profs found it particularly funny to whack people with dusty chalkboard brushes. it worked… nobody slept in that class – if you did you might be lint-brushing for a LONG time. But he’d never put the exam on the board or write trick questions.

  41. 41.   davidlpf Says:

    Evolving Squid

    One time a math prof got frustrate that most of the class did not show up for a certain lecture every week he gave everyone you showed a huge hint on their next assignment. Not exactly the answers to the exam but that as close as it did for me.

  42. 42.   Lurchgs Says:

    Give that my father is in academia, and I’m (I like to think) professional, I’ve very definitely been on both sides of this presentation. I HOPE that when I’m on the giving side, I’ve actually given two presentations at the same time – the one people came there to see, and the one people sat in on to get away from the others (or chalk up brownie points with their boss)

    Lessee… exams…

    I’ve seen this one twice. The first time I saw it, I had to re-read a couple times to make sure my dyslexia wasn’t biting me in the thinnest part of my jeans:

    (pick your subject)

    Name_________________

    Exam preface: This exam is worth [some percentage] of your final grade in this class. There are 100 questions. Each question answered will count 1% against the exam score.

    I also LOVE professors who have a habit of saying “Read all the questions first, then answer the easy ones first..” I actually saw one of them use “Don’t bother with the other questions. Simply sign your name, wait 25 minutes, and hand in the test.” as his last question. As I recall, only 4 or 5 of us in a class of 75 caught it. Even so, I never really did come to like chemistry.

    In conclusion, I’ve noticed that, sadly,if you are in the chicken audience, the really funny jokes tend to go right over your head. Ergo, spam spam spam spam spam baked beans and spam.

  43. 43.   tacitus Says:

    A few years back, I was in a university research group, and down the hall one professor had posted a paper (not actually submitted, alas) that consisted almost entirely of the word “Blah”, including the captions to graphs and most of the references.

    Was the professor’s name Bob Loblaw by any chance? (Say it out loud).

  44. 44.   Charlie in Dayton Says:

    I have to admit, this is one of the most chicken presentations I’ve ever seen…

    Turns out that the dude in this video will be the keynote speaker at The 2007 Ig® Nobel Prize Ceremony and Lectures, held at Hahvahd this Thursday.

    Details here: http://www.improbable.com/ig/2007/2007-details.html

  45. 45.   TB Says:

    Didn’t Steve Ballmer give a talk like this once? Developers, developers, developers, developers……

    The only problem I have with the chicken seminar is that the audience was able to stay awake during it. Then again, he did fly through it in about 3 minutes….

  46. 46.   Hugo Says:

    We had an Afrikaans (a language) teacher at school, who would add to his exams, instructions such as “Don’t answer question 3.2.5″. He would then penalise anyone who does answer it…

  47. 47.   DennyMo Says:

    I didn’t want to laugh. I tried not to laugh. But I’ve sat through enough “death by PowerPoint” briefings that I just couldn’t stop myself. Nicely done.

  48. 48.   StarDragon The Canadian Says:

    Noodles?

  49. 49.   Mark Says:

    Beautiful!

  50. 50.   CR Says:

    I forgot to comment about this yesterday because I was laughing so hard.

  51. 51.   Chip Says:

    I sent this to a retired science editor for Encyclopedia Britannica. He replied:

    “I gave a similar but much more complex and informative presentation last year called “Chicken, Rooster, Egg, Chicken, Rooster, Egg.”

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