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	<title>Comments on: Fort McMurray (Alberta) Mystery</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Lurchgs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lurchgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are all wrong.  It&#039;s the home temple to the Sacred Church of The Whimsical [AMC] Pacer.

Established in 1945 (Years before the Pacer saw production) at the center of Canada&#039;s first crop circle, the church has seen its membership grow from the original founding 3 to a militarily stunning 15 in 1978.

After predictions that the Pacer would take over the world and transport everybody to some mythical place called &quot;Dedroid, eh&quot; membership in the church has fallen off dramatically, to the point where it now boasts only 1 member - one Frank Frankson, grandson of the first Pope of the Pacer.

Much of this would be filed under &quot;Christianity and other Nonsense&quot;, were it not for the crop circle containing their church.  Apparently, in an effort to distance itself from what it considers &quot;a raving bunch of loonies&quot;, the crop circle has extended a pseudopod to the west, intending to move closer to the One True Religion: &quot;Mopar&quot;, or its younger sister &quot;Cessna&quot;.  Or, maybe it&#039;s simply moving west in order to consume the inhabitants of the completely unsuspecting town.

If this is the case, the townsfolk are very lucky that a ley line passes between them and the crop circle - you can see from the pictures that the pseudopod moving west has encountered the barrier and is now searching for a way around it.

Of course, this is taking some time, since A) the crop circle - like Weeping Angels - can&#039;t move when it&#039;s being observed, and, B) everybody knows that the larger a creature is, the slower it moves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are all wrong.  It&#8217;s the home temple to the Sacred Church of The Whimsical [AMC] Pacer.</p>
<p>Established in 1945 (Years before the Pacer saw production) at the center of Canada&#8217;s first crop circle, the church has seen its membership grow from the original founding 3 to a militarily stunning 15 in 1978.</p>
<p>After predictions that the Pacer would take over the world and transport everybody to some mythical place called &#8220;Dedroid, eh&#8221; membership in the church has fallen off dramatically, to the point where it now boasts only 1 member &#8211; one Frank Frankson, grandson of the first Pope of the Pacer.</p>
<p>Much of this would be filed under &#8220;Christianity and other Nonsense&#8221;, were it not for the crop circle containing their church.  Apparently, in an effort to distance itself from what it considers &#8220;a raving bunch of loonies&#8221;, the crop circle has extended a pseudopod to the west, intending to move closer to the One True Religion: &#8220;Mopar&#8221;, or its younger sister &#8220;Cessna&#8221;.  Or, maybe it&#8217;s simply moving west in order to consume the inhabitants of the completely unsuspecting town.</p>
<p>If this is the case, the townsfolk are very lucky that a ley line passes between them and the crop circle &#8211; you can see from the pictures that the pseudopod moving west has encountered the barrier and is now searching for a way around it.</p>
<p>Of course, this is taking some time, since A) the crop circle &#8211; like Weeping Angels &#8211; can&#8217;t move when it&#8217;s being observed, and, B) everybody knows that the larger a creature is, the slower it moves.</p>
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		<title>By: scotth</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another VOR vote.

Here is a much clearer google map (satellite view) of the one on the South of the Dallas/Ft Worth airport.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;time=&amp;date=&amp;ttype=&amp;q=dfw+airport&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=32.869094,-97.040171&amp;spn=0.002336,0.003237&amp;t=k&amp;z=19&amp;om=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another VOR vote.</p>
<p>Here is a much clearer google map (satellite view) of the one on the South of the Dallas/Ft Worth airport.</p>
<p><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&#038;hl=en&#038;geocode=&#038;time=&#038;date=&#038;ttype=&#038;q=dfw+airport&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;ll=32.869094,-97.040171&#038;spn=0.002336,0.003237&#038;t=k&#038;z=19&#038;om=1" rel="nofollow">http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&#038;hl=en&#038;geocode=&#038;time=&#038;date=&#038;ttype=&#038;q=dfw+airport&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;ll=32.869094,-97.040171&#038;spn=0.002336,0.003237&#038;t=k&#038;z=19&#038;om=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Allen Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found these navaids to be very handy when I was doing a miniproject a couple of months ago to see how accurate the geographical coordinates shown in Google Earth are. They are quite visible, have a point symmetry, and have accurately surveyed coordinates listed in publications on the Web.

(The answer is that Google Earth usually agrees with the listed values to within ten meters in North America and Europe, with the occasional exception. Elsewhere it can be hundreds of meters off, I&#039;d guess due to the use of different datums (data?).)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found these navaids to be very handy when I was doing a miniproject a couple of months ago to see how accurate the geographical coordinates shown in Google Earth are. They are quite visible, have a point symmetry, and have accurately surveyed coordinates listed in publications on the Web.</p>
<p>(The answer is that Google Earth usually agrees with the listed values to within ten meters in North America and Europe, with the occasional exception. Elsewhere it can be hundreds of meters off, I&#8217;d guess due to the use of different datums (data?).)</p>
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		<title>By: JB of Brisbane</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB of Brisbane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to say it was a VOR as well (or a TACAN, the military version), but half a dozen people beat me to it. There is a very similar installation at a place callled Laravale, located southwest of Beaudesert in southeast Queensland, Australia. This VOR is located very close to the Mount Lindesay Highway, for anybody driving south from Beaudesert, and is used mainly by aircraft arriving and departing BNE. Go ahead and GoogleMap Beaudesert, then follow the road south(west) to Laravale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to say it was a VOR as well (or a TACAN, the military version), but half a dozen people beat me to it. There is a very similar installation at a place callled Laravale, located southwest of Beaudesert in southeast Queensland, Australia. This VOR is located very close to the Mount Lindesay Highway, for anybody driving south from Beaudesert, and is used mainly by aircraft arriving and departing BNE. Go ahead and GoogleMap Beaudesert, then follow the road south(west) to Laravale.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aircraft navigation aid??  Rubbish!  If you locate it using the Microsoft map server, and then zoom out a bit, the real answer is obvious: it&#039;s a giant Goldfish cracker!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aircraft navigation aid??  Rubbish!  If you locate it using the Microsoft map server, and then zoom out a bit, the real answer is obvious: it&#8217;s a giant Goldfish cracker!</p>
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		<title>By: DTdNav</title>
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		<dc:creator>DTdNav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ LarrySDonald

This structure is indeed the Fort McMurray VOR/DME.  It sits 2.8 nautical miles almost due east of the runway.  The approach plates linked to by Yossarian correspond with the Google image nicely.  I&#039;m not sure what type of search you did, but many times a navaid used for an airport is not included in the airway route structure and won&#039;t show up on those searches.</description>
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<p>This structure is indeed the Fort McMurray VOR/DME.  It sits 2.8 nautical miles almost due east of the runway.  The approach plates linked to by Yossarian correspond with the Google image nicely.  I&#8217;m not sure what type of search you did, but many times a navaid used for an airport is not included in the airway route structure and won&#8217;t show up on those searches.</p>
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		<title>By: DTdNav</title>
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		<dc:creator>DTdNav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Something I actually know a bit about.

You are all partially correct.  The structure is actually a combination of two different types of navigational aids (navaids).  It is a VOR/DME.  The VOR is used to determine aircraft bearing from the station and the DME (Distance Measuring Equipment) is used to tell distance from the station. These stations actually receive signals from aircraft and then transmit the aircrafts&#039; radial (bearing from station) and distance from station in nautical miles.  This is a very common type of naviad combo used in Canada.  In the U.S. the most common type of navaid combo is the VORTAC.  Which is a combo of the VOR and the TACAN (Tactical Aid to Navigation).  All these naviad combos allow aircraft to determine their aproximate position (within 1 or 2 NM depending on distance from the station) with reference to only that one station.

OK, probably way more than anyone wanted to know about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Something I actually know a bit about.</p>
<p>You are all partially correct.  The structure is actually a combination of two different types of navigational aids (navaids).  It is a VOR/DME.  The VOR is used to determine aircraft bearing from the station and the DME (Distance Measuring Equipment) is used to tell distance from the station. These stations actually receive signals from aircraft and then transmit the aircrafts&#8217; radial (bearing from station) and distance from station in nautical miles.  This is a very common type of naviad combo used in Canada.  In the U.S. the most common type of navaid combo is the VORTAC.  Which is a combo of the VOR and the TACAN (Tactical Aid to Navigation).  All these naviad combos allow aircraft to determine their aproximate position (within 1 or 2 NM depending on distance from the station) with reference to only that one station.</p>
<p>OK, probably way more than anyone wanted to know about this.</p>
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		<title>By: bjswift</title>
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		<dc:creator>bjswift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>_Alien_ pilot navigation aid, of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>_Alien_ pilot navigation aid, of course!</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;50 degrees 24 minutes N by 113 degrees 15 minutes W&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve drilled wells near that location.

Every June they do a Con, and I made it out this year for the opening of a VR 3D game, where you command a starship, fighting Klingons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>50 degrees 24 minutes N by 113 degrees 15 minutes W</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve drilled wells near that location.</p>
<p>Every June they do a Con, and I made it out this year for the opening of a VR 3D game, where you command a starship, fighting Klingons!</p>
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		<title>By: LarrySDonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>LarrySDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dammit. Didn&#039;t refresh the comments and now see it in the very place I referred to. Hours of work since checking = hit refresh first. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dammit. Didn&#8217;t refresh the comments and now see it in the very place I referred to. Hours of work since checking = hit refresh first. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: LarrySDonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>LarrySDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little less then fully able to convince myself of this.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.navcanada.ca/ContentDefinitionFiles/Publications/AeronauticalInfoProducts/CanadianAirportCharts/CanadianAirportCharts_current.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Another full list (pdf) of canadian VORs&lt;/a&gt;. I looked it up before reading through everything, but mapping the Fts VORs they seem significantly west off the object in question. Could be I&#039;m not wise enough or have the know-how of how this is supposed to work, but plot local VORs in google v where the object it and they all seem significantly west of there. Not crazy much and it probably is a VOR, but it&#039;s odd that it&#039;d be so far off the airport while being reported (including past links) smack on it. Perhaps I just need to delve deeper yet into how this works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little less then fully able to convince myself of this.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.navcanada.ca/ContentDefinitionFiles/Publications/AeronauticalInfoProducts/CanadianAirportCharts/CanadianAirportCharts_current.pdf" rel="nofollow">Another full list (pdf) of canadian VORs</a>. I looked it up before reading through everything, but mapping the Fts VORs they seem significantly west off the object in question. Could be I&#8217;m not wise enough or have the know-how of how this is supposed to work, but plot local VORs in google v where the object it and they all seem significantly west of there. Not crazy much and it probably is a VOR, but it&#8217;s odd that it&#8217;d be so far off the airport while being reported (including past links) smack on it. Perhaps I just need to delve deeper yet into how this works.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s one of those at the end of the runway at the drop zone where I skydive. We sometimes use it for visual heading once we&#039;re under canopy.

I had always wondered what it was. Thanks for the enlightenment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s one of those at the end of the runway at the drop zone where I skydive. We sometimes use it for visual heading once we&#8217;re under canopy.</p>
<p>I had always wondered what it was. Thanks for the enlightenment.</p>
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		<title>By: dhtroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>dhtroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since no one else is going to admit the truth ... it&#039;s a crop circle ... minus the crop ... and ... well ... it&#039;s not a circle ... and it has an alien thing-a-bob in the middle for ... you know ... alien probing stuff ...

... and you wondered why abductions are so traumatic

:p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since no one else is going to admit the truth &#8230; it&#8217;s a crop circle &#8230; minus the crop &#8230; and &#8230; well &#8230; it&#8217;s not a circle &#8230; and it has an alien thing-a-bob in the middle for &#8230; you know &#8230; alien probing stuff &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; and you wondered why abductions are so traumatic</p>
<p>:p</p>
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		<title>By: Tristen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*** And, no, the Men In Black did not come to take me away. ***

Not that you know of anyway =)

--Flashy Things You--</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*** And, no, the Men In Black did not come to take me away. ***</p>
<p>Not that you know of anyway =)</p>
<p>&#8211;Flashy Things You&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: KaiYeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>KaiYeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was near Camp Hero in Montauk over the weekend and saw the radio tower. Very beautiful, kind of like the triangle antenna thing at Arecibo. And, no, the Men In Black did not come to take me away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was near Camp Hero in Montauk over the weekend and saw the radio tower. Very beautiful, kind of like the triangle antenna thing at Arecibo. And, no, the Men In Black did not come to take me away.</p>
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		<title>By: Blondin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blondin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out this location in Alberta:

50 degrees 24 minutes N by 113 degrees 15 minutes W</description>
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<p>50 degrees 24 minutes N by 113 degrees 15 minutes W</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yossarianon:
Thanks for the correction.  I forgot, the O stands for Omnidirectional! I was actually just in the process of looking it up myself to make sure I was right...well, I wasn&#039;t.

I love aviation, I hope to continue flying lessons in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yossarianon:<br />
Thanks for the correction.  I forgot, the O stands for Omnidirectional! I was actually just in the process of looking it up myself to make sure I was right&#8230;well, I wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I love aviation, I hope to continue flying lessons in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett McCoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s a Masonic temple, like the one in Alexandria, VA :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s a Masonic temple, like the one in Alexandria, VA <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darnit, and here I thought it would be something alien among us!</description>
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		<title>By: Richard B. Drumm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard B. Drumm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith:
That &quot;numbers station&quot; stuff is interesting and -WEIRD- to say the least.
Prob&#039;ly obsolete these days...
Rich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith:<br />
That &#8220;numbers station&#8221; stuff is interesting and -WEIRD- to say the least.<br />
Prob&#8217;ly obsolete these days&#8230;<br />
Rich</p>
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		<title>By: JeffS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, it&#039;s a VOR, YMM to be exact:

http://www.worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?nav=FORT+MCMURRAY&amp;nav_id=YMM&amp;nav_type=4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it&#8217;s a VOR, YMM to be exact:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?nav=FORT+MCMURRAY&#038;nav_id=YMM&#038;nav_type=4" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?nav=FORT+MCMURRAY&#038;nav_id=YMM&#038;nav_type=4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Yossarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yossarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VOR is broadcast on VHF frequencies.  You&#039;re confusing it for NDBs (non-directional beacons) which broadcast on AM frequencies.  Back in my flight training days, I used to tune into local AM stations to listen to something other than radio chatter on x-country flights.

VORs, on the other hand, give you a directional bearing to the station.  Navigation radios can tune into 2 or more at a time, and by seeing which &#039;radials&#039; you intersect, you can pinpoint your location on a map (provided there are 2 VORs to tune in to).

They&#039;re frequently placed in line with the end of runways at airports, so you can fly the radial to hit the runway.  In Fort McMurray, you&#039;d follow the 260 radial right into runway 25.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VOR is broadcast on VHF frequencies.  You&#8217;re confusing it for NDBs (non-directional beacons) which broadcast on AM frequencies.  Back in my flight training days, I used to tune into local AM stations to listen to something other than radio chatter on x-country flights.</p>
<p>VORs, on the other hand, give you a directional bearing to the station.  Navigation radios can tune into 2 or more at a time, and by seeing which &#8216;radials&#8217; you intersect, you can pinpoint your location on a map (provided there are 2 VORs to tune in to).</p>
<p>They&#8217;re frequently placed in line with the end of runways at airports, so you can fly the radial to hit the runway.  In Fort McMurray, you&#8217;d follow the 260 radial right into runway 25.</p>
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		<title>By: Yossarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yossarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup.  Looks like the Fort McMurray airport Runway 25 VOR.  Here&#039;s the Nav Canada aerodrome info for the airport (PDF):

http://charts.ivao.ca/CAP3/CYMM.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup.  Looks like the Fort McMurray airport Runway 25 VOR.  Here&#8217;s the Nav Canada aerodrome info for the airport (PDF):</p>
<p><a href="http://charts.ivao.ca/CAP3/CYMM.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://charts.ivao.ca/CAP3/CYMM.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s Hyperdimensional Physics!!!

Really, though, VOR station sounds right.  Now, it&#039;s been a while since ground school, but from what I remember, VOR is pretty well only used to listen to baseball games on AM radio frequencies now...If I&#039;m not confusing it with another type of navigation (like I said, it&#039;s been a while and I haven&#039;t done any flying in ages...)

Now for those not up on the lingo, what VOR is (essentially) is an AM radio wave broadcast, and there is a corresponding instrument in most planes (only real use would be as a backup system...when all other nav systems fail, VOR to the rescue!).  The instrument in the plane determines the direction that the signal is coming from, but the pilot has to turn a little knob, and a little needle jumps up or down depending on what direction the station is in, determined by how strong the signal is, but it doesn&#039;t actually give you a heading.  As a result, if you navigate with just vor, your flight path looks something like this: /\/\/\/\

Now again, like I said, it&#039;s been a while so anyone who wants to elaborate/correct please feel free!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Hyperdimensional Physics!!!</p>
<p>Really, though, VOR station sounds right.  Now, it&#8217;s been a while since ground school, but from what I remember, VOR is pretty well only used to listen to baseball games on AM radio frequencies now&#8230;If I&#8217;m not confusing it with another type of navigation (like I said, it&#8217;s been a while and I haven&#8217;t done any flying in ages&#8230;)</p>
<p>Now for those not up on the lingo, what VOR is (essentially) is an AM radio wave broadcast, and there is a corresponding instrument in most planes (only real use would be as a backup system&#8230;when all other nav systems fail, VOR to the rescue!).  The instrument in the plane determines the direction that the signal is coming from, but the pilot has to turn a little knob, and a little needle jumps up or down depending on what direction the station is in, determined by how strong the signal is, but it doesn&#8217;t actually give you a heading.  As a result, if you navigate with just vor, your flight path looks something like this: /\/\/\/\</p>
<p>Now again, like I said, it&#8217;s been a while so anyone who wants to elaborate/correct please feel free!</p>
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		<title>By: Yossarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yossarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah.  I came here to say it.  I guess I&#039;m not the only pilot/aviation buff around here!</description>
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