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	<title>Comments on: Trek news: Wynona Rider will be Amanda</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 99.9% sure the &quot;Vulcan&quot; thing in the Portman stories was a mistake on the part of the reporter. Amanda was all human, and I&#039;m sure that Paramount knows this.

As for my Next Gen comment, I should confess that I don&#039;t think any of the Trek spinoffs have aged well (Next Gen, DS9, the movies), or else were never good to begin with (Voyager, Enterprise). And I honestly don&#039;t hold out a lot of hope for this one, either, but for now I&#039;ll give it the benefit of the doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 99.9% sure the &#8220;Vulcan&#8221; thing in the Portman stories was a mistake on the part of the reporter. Amanda was all human, and I&#8217;m sure that Paramount knows this.</p>
<p>As for my Next Gen comment, I should confess that I don&#8217;t think any of the Trek spinoffs have aged well (Next Gen, DS9, the movies), or else were never good to begin with (Voyager, Enterprise). And I honestly don&#8217;t hold out a lot of hope for this one, either, but for now I&#8217;ll give it the benefit of the doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: billg</title>
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		<dc:creator>billg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The primary interest in the &quot;Spock&#039;s Mom&quot; character is the conflict between her human awareness of the emotions that are present in every Vulcan and the insistence of her Vulcan husband and son that those emotions do not exist. If the script is good enough, this should be a good role.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The primary interest in the &#8220;Spock&#8217;s Mom&#8221; character is the conflict between her human awareness of the emotions that are present in every Vulcan and the insistence of her Vulcan husband and son that those emotions do not exist. If the script is good enough, this should be a good role.</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;like a remake of First Contact (which was the only good Next Gen movie, but still)&quot;

Ugh.   First Contact was all right, but it&#039;s difficult for a Borg movie not to be good.  Insurrection was better, though.   Much closer to being TNG-ensemble (as much as possible when on the big screen they&#039;re paying big $$ to certain actors and must use them more) than the other TNG movies which were &quot;the Picard show.&quot;   The other two movies shall never be spoken of.

As for Ryder playing Amanda -- where I heard the casting, it was giving the part as &quot;Spock&#039;s mother&quot; as specifically calling her a Vulcan.   Which had people annoyed by the retcon.   Has this been corrected to make her  a human again, or are we still stuck with no continuity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;like a remake of First Contact (which was the only good Next Gen movie, but still)&#8221;</p>
<p>Ugh.   First Contact was all right, but it&#8217;s difficult for a Borg movie not to be good.  Insurrection was better, though.   Much closer to being TNG-ensemble (as much as possible when on the big screen they&#8217;re paying big $$ to certain actors and must use them more) than the other TNG movies which were &#8220;the Picard show.&#8221;   The other two movies shall never be spoken of.</p>
<p>As for Ryder playing Amanda &#8212; where I heard the casting, it was giving the part as &#8220;Spock&#8217;s mother&#8221; as specifically calling her a Vulcan.   Which had people annoyed by the retcon.   Has this been corrected to make her  a human again, or are we still stuck with no continuity?</p>
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		<title>By: The Centipede</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Centipede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I&#039;m hoping is that it&#039;ll be better than the Star Wars prequel series.  Which isn&#039;t saying very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I&#8217;m hoping is that it&#8217;ll be better than the Star Wars prequel series.  Which isn&#8217;t saying very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Winona, one of my favorite young dramatic actresses.
I rather thought the shop lifting thing was more about making the news than about actually stealing anything. You know what the entertainment industry says,&quot; There&#039;s no such thing as BAD publicity,,,&quot;
,,,and she was GREAT in Girl Interrupted,,,

She will make a very interesting Vulcan. Of course, in any species that lives two centuries, a 75 year old female would likely still be of reproductive age.

Go, Winona!

GAry 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Winona, one of my favorite young dramatic actresses.<br />
I rather thought the shop lifting thing was more about making the news than about actually stealing anything. You know what the entertainment industry says,&#8221; There&#8217;s no such thing as BAD publicity,,,&#8221;<br />
,,,and she was GREAT in Girl Interrupted,,,</p>
<p>She will make a very interesting Vulcan. Of course, in any species that lives two centuries, a 75 year old female would likely still be of reproductive age.</p>
<p>Go, Winona!</p>
<p>GAry 7</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie Mann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember Yesteryear - it was a great piece of SF period (despite the hideous animation).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember Yesteryear &#8211; it was a great piece of SF period (despite the hideous animation).</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that this movie sounds at first blush like a remake of First Contact (which was the only good Next Gen movie, but still) substituting Eric Bana and his band of scheming Romulans for the Borg and young Kirk for Cochran, but the logic I&#039;ve heard argued is that Harlan Ellison&#039;s &quot;City on the Edge of Forever&quot; was the best episode of the original series, so maybe there&#039;s still some resonance there. Maybe there&#039;s some personal good outcome for Spock from Kirk having been offed at a young age, that he must sacrifice in order to restore the &quot;correct&quot; timeline (that part is just speculation).

On the other hand, there was a standout episode of animated Trek (&quot;Yesteryear&quot;) written by D.C. Fontana, where Spock used the Guardian of Forever to visit himself at a critical point in his own youth, and in the process a lot was revealed about the trials that stoic older Spock had to endure as a half-Vulcan child growing up on his homeworld. Maybe this script means to do the same thing with the Original Series crew visited early in their careers...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this movie sounds at first blush like a remake of First Contact (which was the only good Next Gen movie, but still) substituting Eric Bana and his band of scheming Romulans for the Borg and young Kirk for Cochran, but the logic I&#8217;ve heard argued is that Harlan Ellison&#8217;s &#8220;City on the Edge of Forever&#8221; was the best episode of the original series, so maybe there&#8217;s still some resonance there. Maybe there&#8217;s some personal good outcome for Spock from Kirk having been offed at a young age, that he must sacrifice in order to restore the &#8220;correct&#8221; timeline (that part is just speculation).</p>
<p>On the other hand, there was a standout episode of animated Trek (&#8221;Yesteryear&#8221;) written by D.C. Fontana, where Spock used the Guardian of Forever to visit himself at a critical point in his own youth, and in the process a lot was revealed about the trials that stoic older Spock had to endure as a half-Vulcan child growing up on his homeworld. Maybe this script means to do the same thing with the Original Series crew visited early in their careers&#8230;?</p>
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