Comments on: Texas creationists: the story that keeps on giving

By: Mike de Fleuriot

Mike de Fleuriot — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:32:02 +0000

As an outsider to the American way of life, I find it strange that the culture there seems to want to tear down all the things that they feel they have a right too.
Could it be because the people there are well off and can offer this lunacy? And another question, why this way of thinking, ie anti-science, does not show up as much in other countries.

By: The Centipede

The Centipede — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:16:13 +0000

StevoR:

Good plan. Now what part of the intellectual elite, again, will milk the cows and till the fields?

By: StevoR

StevoR — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:19:05 +0000

D’oh!

ned = need

& yes, Mike J, the secret has been discovered :

IAU = well see above (& below) rather than Internat’l Astronomical Union!

Instant Athiest Utopia = IAU

Its a code, they’re out to get us ..!Oh no! (Covers eyes eyes, smacks forehead, doe scloseimpressionof Munch’s ‘Scream’ painting.)
Yes, it is very late at night here in Adelaide, yes I am feeling in a particularly silly mood & yes I am going to bed now!

By: StevoR

StevoR — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:11:53 +0000

Centipede a lo-oo-oong way above said :

“let the jihad begin, then. What shall we do with the heathen Believers who refuse the enlightenment of our ideology? Shall we put them to the sword? Shall we re-educate them? Shall we break them down and remold them in the form of the New Scientific Man?”

My vote’s with putting them to the sword - a quick beheading of anyone believing in religion will raise the planet’s average IQ & solve the overpopluation crisis - & reduce the environmental crisies caused by that - all in one (or afew billion) fell swoops.
Followed by a few billion fell thuds [of severed heads]

.. splurt, splurt ..splurt …
[Goes the blood from the necks ..]

Huzzah!

Instant atheist utopia!

_____———–_______———-________———–________

PS. Do I really ned to tell y’all I’m NOT actually serious here ..? Ihope not but just in case yes folks that was a joke.

By: Antiquated Tory

Antiquated Tory — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:50:16 +0000

Phil, I doubt whether MikeJ’s comments were deleted because I strongly doubt he made any previously. Just as I strongly doubt he was an “evolutionist” who “saw the light,” since I don’t see how you go from understanding a subject to arguing from personal incredulity. However, both rhetorical devices–complaining about being ’silenced’ and claiming to have once been an ‘evolutionist’–are parts of the creationtroll toolkit. I needn’t explain what I mean by that, I trust.
By the way folks, The Centipede and Mr Burkhart are quite right–for many people, religion is a vital part of themselves and not one they inflict on other people. You might think religious people are all goofballs, but if they aren’t trying to shove crap down your throat, have the decency to keep your opinion to yourselves. Or at least not shove your contempt down their throats. I’m not at all religious but I am the descendant of Russian Jews and I get a little ancy about arrogant, gratuitous disrespect of another person’s religion.
I’m also married to a Brit, and have adopted just enough of the culture to believe that religion is properly a private matter, and that private matters should be left private.
Frankly, I’m not even sure mocking people like MikeJ is in good taste, since I suspect he is a deeply troubled individual, probably in need of good counseling or meds. However, Phil might consider reformatting his comments in comic sans.

By: mike burkhart

mike burkhart — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:45:31 +0000

as a christan I deplroe what the texas education department is doing i don’t suport it in any way. but to respond to some of the commints you can not ban religon nor take the rights away from people who beleve in god if you do then you are no better then those who in the south had jim crow laws witch took away the rights of blacks and you will only give thes extremists a cause to fight for . what do you propse to do with people who wont give up ther fath put them in death camps? you will create sympthy for people of fath and then public oppoin will be with them and agaist you the way it was in the 1960s with african americans
as for young people being less religious when I was young but became more so as I got older why don’t you show some of that tolerance you talk about and tolerate all people and belefs insted of picking and choseing .I may be christan but I am tolerant of all people and belefs even if you have none

By: The Centipede

The Centipede — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:36:53 +0000

Philip:

Being made fun of by jerks (any particular ideology aside) is sort of part of the human experience and therefore I don’t consider it as qualifying as being a “martyr for the faith” (whatever faith or un-faith that may be). Now, when you’re passed up for promotion, put on notice, or otherwise properly oppressed like fos up there, I’ll be a bit more willing to accept the Stoic Martyr persona.

Some atheists give me flak about being a deist. Some Christians give me flak about being a deist, or a secularist. Some monarchists and Romantic “big men lead” elitists of various stripes give me flak for being an egalitarian/meritocratic/democratic populist. Some Creationists and IDers give me flak for being an evolutionist. Some spiritualists give me flak for being (essentially) a materialist. Some AGW-skeptics give me flak for supporting AGW given my own thoughts on the matter (hockey sticks and whatever aside; empirical knowledge that greenhouse gases exist and we emit them is good enough for me). Some Democrats give me flak for having some traditionally “fascist” and “Republican” views. Some Republicans give me flak for having some traditionally “socialist” and “Democratic” views.

Welcome to what’s called “having an opinion.”

If I’m not going to brook broad-brush tarring from atheists, I’m not going to brook it from theists either. Sauce for the goose.