Like for example, from my understanding she went around claiming that she just had to have her a man, and then she went and seduced WWE Wrestling Superstar MVP, and if that wasn’t enough torture, then she came out on nationwide TV and told members of the audience and the VIEW that she was getting a bikini wax for her upcoming disaster live bikini suit on the VIEW in August. I sure as hell would not want to see that. Talk about “Thriller”, that set poor Michael Jackson’s video about 6 years into the making of the ancient and antique artifacts of the unknown. And no offense to Michael, because I love the man and his music, but Sherri is just plain dumb, plain and simple. She cannot even say something to make herself seem smart, less along say something to make her seem intelligent. What Sherri needs to do is wrap herself, MVP, her stupid comments and her dysfunctional lifestyle in the toilet and bid it a farewell, because that is what her life is going right now fast, A hell in a hand basket. You know what Sherri reminds me of, the Movie-Drag me to Hell. I would have said “Transformers”, but I don’t want to get a visit from Optimus Prime and the Decepticons, I’ll take my chances and not watch Sherri at all and hope that you all can do the same and maybe this world would be a better place to live.

Excuse me, you’re quite right. I meant “divine” or “virgin” conception, refering to Christ. Theology STILL isn’t my strong suit.

“Beware! Lest ye incur the wrath of the Conservapedians:”

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Until Stewie throws in some cake or something and then they all have at it.

It’s not that she’s flying in the face of established history. It’s not that she’s refuting science. It’s not even that she’s yet again willfully demonstrating her own ignorance.

It’s that she’s CALLING THE OLD TESTAMENT A LIE. Now, I’m not a particularly religious person, but if I were, I don’t think I would go on national television and insult my own religion.

That, I must say, is absolutely priceless. I really need to start watching the View more. You can’t write comedy gold like this.

But like so many, she probably doesn’t.

That’s not what I’d call a scientific sample. The people who got it right have no comedic value, and so were cut out.

Remember, educating yourself takes time. Sherri Shepherd probably had to spend that time on other things. Also, as has already been pointed out, average Americans all over are that ignorant. Jay Leno used to do street interviews where he asked random people on the street questions like that — most people didn’t know some very basic stuff.

Sherri Shepherd may be ignorant — but she probably earns more than most of us.

Interestingly enough, Historians no longer use the terms “A.D.” (Anno Domini or “Year of Our Lord”) and “B.C.” (Before Christ.) They replace them with “C.E.” (Common Era) and “B.C.E.” (Before Common Era,) Which mean the same thing.

Beware! Lest ye incur the wrath of the Conservapedians:

conservapedia Commandment No. 4:

When referencing dates based on the approximate birth of Jesus, give appropriate credit for the basis of the date (B.C. or A.D.). “BCE” and “CE” are unacceptable substitutes because they deny the historical basis. See CE.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments

Beware! (again) before ye set foot in yonder realm lest thy noggin explodeth from the imbecilius extremis thy will encounter there.

To be fair, everyone here knows the world is round too (as far as I know, the Flat Earth Society is quite literally dead). Unless they’re a talking head on television, at which point it becomes a crapshoot. On the plus side, we also generally know that people on television are idiots, so there’s at least some hope yet.

I mean, here in my country, I think if I went to most rural parts of country and asked farmers about the issue they would know the Earth is round. I mean, every schoolroom in elementary has a freaking globe!

Damn, sometimes i think everybody should have to go under 50 years of communism, it has some rather nice benefits, like obligatory basic education on a purely rational and scientific basis. Silly Marxism and Communist science lectures got removed from school programs in early ’70es here. Nothing but boring silly facts in school. Like “Earth is billions of years old”, “life on Earth became naturally and is subject to “evolution”", and yeah, stuff like “Earth is (approximately) a sphere with a radius of …”.

Immaculate Conception of Christ? The Immaculate Conception is of Mary. There is no Immaculate Conception of Christ. There is no Immaculate Conception for Protestants, it is a Catholic-only invention. If it helps to understand what it is, you can think of it in English as the Conception of the Immaculation of Mary. If you don’t understand Immaculation, read this link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_conception
In short, the Italian phrase “Immaculate Conception” means to cleanse a woman of the stain of Original Sin so she can be sainted. The Concept was approved in 1854 and does not concern Jesus, per se. If a Protestant blabs about Immaculate Conception, kindly as if they have converted to Catholicism.

Except everyone expects Grammar Inquisitors on the Internet…

“Everybody expects the English Inquisition! Our chief weapon is grammar, grammar and pedantry–our TWO chief weapons are grammar, pedantry, and obscure spellings–AMONGST OUR WEAPONRY are such diverse things as grammar, pedantry, obscure spellings, and an almost fanatical devotion to Strunk and White okay I’ll start again.”

That’s why you don’t go for the hard fish to catch, at first. If someone’s so deeply a party-liner to the point that they cannot take comedy attached to their ideology, they’re probably a lost cause. Look at most of the ‘fundamentalist’ Islamic world today. However, one does have to start somewhere, and there are always moderates who can take a joke without taking it personally.

Otherwise, I’d never been able to use (link NSFW if you work for the ADL) Flosse the Nazi Dolphin in a roleplaying game along with a Jewish friend of mine, much less develop his nemesis, The Shark of David (who is, at least, in part, that same friend’s fault). Admittedly, it’s not those moderates who are the problem, but it’s those same moderates you can get to see things your way and provide soft pressure to gradually marginalize (but never extinguish) the crazies on the far end.

You can’t be wrong all the time, I guess.

Evolving Squid said:
” There’s always a spelling and grammar Nazi hiding somewhere.”

No, that’s not right, because the term Nazi derives from the abbreviation of the national socialist party of Germany from the 1920s / 1930s. If anything, you refer to us English-grammar Inquisitors (As in, “I didn’t expect the English Inquisition”). Not to be confused with Spanish ones of course!
[/tongue in cheek]

Have been 10 funny puzling seconds trying to figure what should it mean the claim that there was nothing having Christians for breakfast in the past, lol!”

Hahaha Bill bones:). I’ve had that same issue with Spanish and French. I’ve taken just enough of both of them to be able to puzzle my way through a few paragraphs, but I haven’t spent enough time with either language to know when an apparent cognate is in fact a “false friend”. It can lead to some amusing misunderstandings.

> Successful mockery therefore requires that it does not make you look mean

Difficult, to say the least.

That depends on the audience, but yes. In fact, mockery is a form of comedy, and this requires some real talent. Now if you’re really funny, you can mock the audience, but that’s best left to professionals.

From a psychological standpoint, if you mock someone’s religion under the guise of mocking a concept, you might as well mock the person, because most people who are deeply religious are not able to tell the difference. This is not exclusive to religion either. If you mock science as a concept there will be a lot of people (scientists) who do not see the difference between mocking the science and mocking the scientist.

People to a large degree identify who they are with the convictions they hold. You can’t say “I’m not mocking you, I’m mocking your stupid worldview” and expect them to say “uh, OK. If you put it like that…”

Which is why the work of the Grammar Nazi Hunters will never be done! They must be brought to justice for their crimes against linguistic tolerance and evolution!

Which kind of goes back to making mockery as a mode of ideological struggle, i.e. changing minds, as not entirely useful.

> Successful mockery therefore requires that it does not make you look mean

Difficult, to say the least.

I still hold that it’s reasonable, from a purely psychological standpoint, to mock concepts when they overreach their conceptual basis, be it evolution ‘disproving’ theism (science as a methodology makes no comment on the supernatural except to say the supernatural is not necessary to explain natural phenomena) or creationism/intelligent design being science (as it’s not, by definition). This allows people to hold the idea to see it as silly while seeing themselves as not silly (as they can drop the idea and be fine); also, if the idea is relegated to a niche, as in “yes, you can still believe in intelligent design, so long as you realize it’s not science,” that allows them the ability to save face. Conversion by slow steps isn’t really such a bad thing.

Of course, there are people who have invested so heavily in an idea (say, Dembski when it comes to ID/creationism) that they become a personification of that idea. They’ll never be swayed anyway, so carefully mocking them in a non-schoolyard way can act as a didactic tool. “Don’t be like this loon,” basically.

That was then…this is now.

Who knows, maybe she’s there to make Elizabeth look smart?

Thank goodness for Whoopi and Joy; if they weren’t on the show, I wouldn’t be watching it at all.