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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: The Centipede</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Centipede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; A taut psychological thriller about the working of the mind in stressful situations, and how people react as individuals and in groups.

I like this concept, thus making it about as likely as this being a Lovecraftian horror from beyond Hell come to consume sanity.

Which is to say, very low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; A taut psychological thriller about the working of the mind in stressful situations, and how people react as individuals and in groups.</p>
<p>I like this concept, thus making it about as likely as this being a Lovecraftian horror from beyond Hell come to consume sanity.</p>
<p>Which is to say, very low.</p>
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		<title>By: MH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Star Wars EpII, in the chase scene between Ewan Macgregor and the Fetts - they had some kind of &quot;sonic&quot; weapon that you saw the explosion before hearing the sound. So they got that part right, only to run face-first into the fact that space doesn&#039;t have a medium through which sound can travel...

2. This movie is CLEARLY going to be about giant Bender and giant Zoidberg duking it out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Star Wars EpII, in the chase scene between Ewan Macgregor and the Fetts &#8211; they had some kind of &#8220;sonic&#8221; weapon that you saw the explosion before hearing the sound. So they got that part right, only to run face-first into the fact that space doesn&#8217;t have a medium through which sound can travel&#8230;</p>
<p>2. This movie is CLEARLY going to be about giant Bender and giant Zoidberg duking it out!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still believe that the shaky camera is overrated :)
It won&#039;t convince me the movie is more real than it looks but it will eventually give me some headache. Same goes for the &quot;realistic&quot; sound. It might attain some artistic effects I&#039;m unaware of but I still prefer a clear old-style image and sound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still believe that the shaky camera is overrated <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
It won&#8217;t convince me the movie is more real than it looks but it will eventually give me some headache. Same goes for the &#8220;realistic&#8221; sound. It might attain some artistic effects I&#8217;m unaware of but I still prefer a clear old-style image and sound.</p>
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		<title>By: Brie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived a few blocks from the World Trade on 9/11.  This is not the first time nor the last time NYC has and will be attacked, bombed, or tidal waved or even invaded by monsters/aliens.  As a New Yorker that has survived 2 World Trade bombings images like the clip above only strengthens my resolve to live here, it is my passive aggressive way to show the the world that we are tough just like our roaches of which we are grotesquely proud of.  One note, the pulchritude factor in this clip is highly exaggerated, NY-kers may not all be pretty but we are definitely INTERESTING!  A shout out to any fellow NY-kers!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived a few blocks from the World Trade on 9/11.  This is not the first time nor the last time NYC has and will be attacked, bombed, or tidal waved or even invaded by monsters/aliens.  As a New Yorker that has survived 2 World Trade bombings images like the clip above only strengthens my resolve to live here, it is my passive aggressive way to show the the world that we are tough just like our roaches of which we are grotesquely proud of.  One note, the pulchritude factor in this clip is highly exaggerated, NY-kers may not all be pretty but we are definitely INTERESTING!  A shout out to any fellow NY-kers!!!</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 05:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yes, I saw the official plot synopsis linked to earlier, so I know what we&#039;re SUPPOSED to think it&#039;s about. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yes, I saw the official plot synopsis linked to earlier, so I know what we&#8217;re SUPPOSED to think it&#8217;s about. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 05:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, by the way, it does look to me like some large living thing attacks that tower, and the tag line &quot;Something has found us&quot; implies a living thing (or things) attacking. Plus, the poster showing the headless statue with what appears to be a wake leading to shore (where several buildings have claw marks) also leads to that conclusion.
But still, we don&#039;t [i]know[/i], based only upon the video footage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, by the way, it does look to me like some large living thing attacks that tower, and the tag line &#8220;Something has found us&#8221; implies a living thing (or things) attacking. Plus, the poster showing the headless statue with what appears to be a wake leading to shore (where several buildings have claw marks) also leads to that conclusion.<br />
But still, we don&#8217;t [i]know[/i], based only upon the video footage.</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it might be fun to react only to the video shown, and apply a semi-scientific analasys to determine what&#039;s going on...

While it seems that indeed a giant monster of some kind is attacking NYC, we don&#039;t acctually have any evidence of this. There is a large jolt, referrred to as an earthquake, and the news mentions that an oil tanker has capsized near the Statue of Liberty. A bit later, a massive explosion occurs, launching debris into the city.
One could argue that the tanker, for whatever reason, exploded, and took out Liberty with it. Now granted, one could argue that a real blast wouldn&#039;t be able to lob part of the real statue that far inland, but we are talking about a fictional movie here, one which has sound travelling at the speed of light. ;)
(By the way, is the sound issue just to get the point across in the trailer? The movie itself may actually have the sound occur more realistically, and thus the crowds may react to it in the manner Tom Servo suggested a few posts ago. One can hope so, anyway...)
Anyhoo, there seem to be multiple explosions, and damage seems spread out. Oh, and Liberty&#039;s head doesn&#039;t fly into view til after the initial big blast; it occurs after the panicked crowd has had time to run down a few flights of stairs to the street, and looks like it&#039;s been lobbed by something which has clawed it off of its body. (Another by the way: Libby&#039;s head seems as wide as the streetlight it knocks over is tall... is that light about three meters tall, or even taller? A disembodied head not sitting upright will look oddly sized in such an out-of-context setting. But I digress. Again.)
Where was I? Oh, yeah...
Based only upon the evidence in the video, we don&#039;t see secondary blasts, but we do see lots of roiling smoke coming from the direction of the intial blast zone, and hear lots of noises suggesting secondary explosions. The smoke even appears to look like a solid object (monster?) moving across the street several blocks away, just before a skyscraper collapses. &quot;Did you see that?&quot; shouts one of the onlookers, implying that he, at least thought he saw a soild thing moving toawrd the building; easy enough to assume that that &#039;thing&#039; then tore the building down moments later.
In the panic that follows, everyone seeks shelter by trying to run away or dash inside the nearest building. Rob &amp; company take shelter in what looks like a convenience store, and hunker down to wait out the debris cloud from the collapsed skyscraper. Loud, rhythmic noises pound away, sounding like giant footsteps, and one of the men tells Rob that he saw &#039;it,&#039; and that it was &#039;alive&#039; just before the windows shatter in and the video ends.
But what do we really know? Smoke that appeared solid, and obscured a view already dimmmed by nighttime. Explosions, or loud bangs, in sequence that sound like footsteps. Buildings collapsing, but from what? Bombs? Libby&#039;s head looking like it had claw marks on it, but remember, it struck a building on the way inland.
Perhaps the whole thing is about a disaster (natural or man-made, and I&#039;m leaning toward man-made) that has people justifiably panicked, and then follows how each person fills in their own blanks about what&#039;s happening around them. A taut psychological thriller about the working of the mind in stressful situations, and how people react as individuals and in groups. Could be really cool, or really boring, if that sort of thing&#039;s not your bag.
Or it is indeed a giant monster flick. Good thing I like kaiju eiga, if that&#039;s the case.
Either way, I&#039;ll be watching this film. (But like others, perhpas only in installments, as &#039;shaky-cam&#039; gets to me after a while. too.)

Yes, I&#039;m a bit of a geek to analyze this trailer in such detail, but that&#039;s the way I am sometimes, and this is, after all, a science site. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it might be fun to react only to the video shown, and apply a semi-scientific analasys to determine what&#8217;s going on&#8230;</p>
<p>While it seems that indeed a giant monster of some kind is attacking NYC, we don&#8217;t acctually have any evidence of this. There is a large jolt, referrred to as an earthquake, and the news mentions that an oil tanker has capsized near the Statue of Liberty. A bit later, a massive explosion occurs, launching debris into the city.<br />
One could argue that the tanker, for whatever reason, exploded, and took out Liberty with it. Now granted, one could argue that a real blast wouldn&#8217;t be able to lob part of the real statue that far inland, but we are talking about a fictional movie here, one which has sound travelling at the speed of light. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
(By the way, is the sound issue just to get the point across in the trailer? The movie itself may actually have the sound occur more realistically, and thus the crowds may react to it in the manner Tom Servo suggested a few posts ago. One can hope so, anyway&#8230;)<br />
Anyhoo, there seem to be multiple explosions, and damage seems spread out. Oh, and Liberty&#8217;s head doesn&#8217;t fly into view til after the initial big blast; it occurs after the panicked crowd has had time to run down a few flights of stairs to the street, and looks like it&#8217;s been lobbed by something which has clawed it off of its body. (Another by the way: Libby&#8217;s head seems as wide as the streetlight it knocks over is tall&#8230; is that light about three meters tall, or even taller? A disembodied head not sitting upright will look oddly sized in such an out-of-context setting. But I digress. Again.)<br />
Where was I? Oh, yeah&#8230;<br />
Based only upon the evidence in the video, we don&#8217;t see secondary blasts, but we do see lots of roiling smoke coming from the direction of the intial blast zone, and hear lots of noises suggesting secondary explosions. The smoke even appears to look like a solid object (monster?) moving across the street several blocks away, just before a skyscraper collapses. &#8220;Did you see that?&#8221; shouts one of the onlookers, implying that he, at least thought he saw a soild thing moving toawrd the building; easy enough to assume that that &#8216;thing&#8217; then tore the building down moments later.<br />
In the panic that follows, everyone seeks shelter by trying to run away or dash inside the nearest building. Rob &amp; company take shelter in what looks like a convenience store, and hunker down to wait out the debris cloud from the collapsed skyscraper. Loud, rhythmic noises pound away, sounding like giant footsteps, and one of the men tells Rob that he saw &#8216;it,&#8217; and that it was &#8216;alive&#8217; just before the windows shatter in and the video ends.<br />
But what do we really know? Smoke that appeared solid, and obscured a view already dimmmed by nighttime. Explosions, or loud bangs, in sequence that sound like footsteps. Buildings collapsing, but from what? Bombs? Libby&#8217;s head looking like it had claw marks on it, but remember, it struck a building on the way inland.<br />
Perhaps the whole thing is about a disaster (natural or man-made, and I&#8217;m leaning toward man-made) that has people justifiably panicked, and then follows how each person fills in their own blanks about what&#8217;s happening around them. A taut psychological thriller about the working of the mind in stressful situations, and how people react as individuals and in groups. Could be really cool, or really boring, if that sort of thing&#8217;s not your bag.<br />
Or it is indeed a giant monster flick. Good thing I like kaiju eiga, if that&#8217;s the case.<br />
Either way, I&#8217;ll be watching this film. (But like others, perhpas only in installments, as &#8217;shaky-cam&#8217; gets to me after a while. too.)</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m a bit of a geek to analyze this trailer in such detail, but that&#8217;s the way I am sometimes, and this is, after all, a science site. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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