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	<title>Comments on: Man Conquers Space</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: G. McPeters</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/12/17/man-conquers-space/comment-page-1/#comment-220932</link>
		<dc:creator>G. McPeters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, my children,&quot;the world would be so much better with rocket ships and flying cars.&quot; The people who would make and use these wonders would not sit and stare into their navels and try to invent new synonyms for &quot;Man&quot; or at  &quot;pornography involving any fetish conceivable.&quot; They would too busy going to new worlds and using information found on their world info net to solve real problems and mtsteries.  Istead, in our perfect &quot;real&quot; world they sit in their little rooms and watch TV drivel, post their semi-literate online journals, look at photographic maps of places they can&#039;t find on a map, and obsess over their cell phones like a missed call will be the cause of their death and the possible destruction of the little world they know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, my children,&#8221;the world would be so much better with rocket ships and flying cars.&#8221; The people who would make and use these wonders would not sit and stare into their navels and try to invent new synonyms for &#8220;Man&#8221; or at  &#8220;pornography involving any fetish conceivable.&#8221; They would too busy going to new worlds and using information found on their world info net to solve real problems and mtsteries.  Istead, in our perfect &#8220;real&#8221; world they sit in their little rooms and watch TV drivel, post their semi-literate online journals, look at photographic maps of places they can&#8217;t find on a map, and obsess over their cell phones like a missed call will be the cause of their death and the possible destruction of the little world they know.</p>
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		<title>By: The Centipede</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/12/17/man-conquers-space/comment-page-1/#comment-59791</link>
		<dc:creator>The Centipede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; That sort of thing takes will; a will this nation of cowards and wimps no longer have.

Especially when they cringe over what synonym of &quot;humanity&quot; to use and find the concept of &quot;conquest&quot; distasteful, even if all that&#039;s getting conquered is dead rock, some more dead rock, a colorful bit of dead rock, some reddish dead rock, a dusty dead rock, and, to change things up, some probably dead ice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; That sort of thing takes will; a will this nation of cowards and wimps no longer have.</p>
<p>Especially when they cringe over what synonym of &#8220;humanity&#8221; to use and find the concept of &#8220;conquest&#8221; distasteful, even if all that&#8217;s getting conquered is dead rock, some more dead rock, a colorful bit of dead rock, some reddish dead rock, a dusty dead rock, and, to change things up, some probably dead ice.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. Siefert</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/12/17/man-conquers-space/comment-page-1/#comment-59790</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. Siefert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, a different time. A time when humans had fortitude of the gonads; we actually trusted science rather than tried to supress it; and we didn&#039;t hide under our beds calling for an 1000 volume report be written each time a chip of paint fell of our space craft while all flights are scrubbed for the next three years.

Pity we&#039;ve become to fat, comfortable, and risk adverse to realize a future in space. That sort of thing takes will; a will this nation of cowards and wimps no longer have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, a different time. A time when humans had fortitude of the gonads; we actually trusted science rather than tried to supress it; and we didn&#8217;t hide under our beds calling for an 1000 volume report be written each time a chip of paint fell of our space craft while all flights are scrubbed for the next three years.</p>
<p>Pity we&#8217;ve become to fat, comfortable, and risk adverse to realize a future in space. That sort of thing takes will; a will this nation of cowards and wimps no longer have.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Hara</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/12/17/man-conquers-space/comment-page-1/#comment-59789</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean O'Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How come the future never came? We got ripped off.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, all we got was this stupid global information infrastructure that allows us to choose from hundreds of TV shows, buy music from our living rooms, publish our own journals so that anyone on Earth can read them, carry pocket phones, index vast amounts of data for quick retrieval, view photographic maps that have enough resolution to see cars on the road, install tracking devices in our cars that can pinpoint our location within feet, and watch pornography involving any fetish conceivable.

What a gyp. The world would be so much better with rocket ships and flying cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How come the future never came? We got ripped off.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, all we got was this stupid global information infrastructure that allows us to choose from hundreds of TV shows, buy music from our living rooms, publish our own journals so that anyone on Earth can read them, carry pocket phones, index vast amounts of data for quick retrieval, view photographic maps that have enough resolution to see cars on the road, install tracking devices in our cars that can pinpoint our location within feet, and watch pornography involving any fetish conceivable.</p>
<p>What a gyp. The world would be so much better with rocket ships and flying cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Man Conquers Space. &#171; Communion Of Dreams</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/12/17/man-conquers-space/comment-page-1/#comment-59788</link>
		<dc:creator>Man Conquers Space. &#171; Communion Of Dreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Phil Plait at Bad Astronomy comes news of the Paleo-Future project, an excellent alternative-history of the middle and end of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary writes:

[[&lt;i&gt;home grown solar power has severe limitations, like interference with local wind patterns(wind power), ocean current mixing of nutrients(wave power), fertilizer overflow into the gulf of Mexico from growing corn for ethanol and the subsequent creation of “dead zones”, excessive land requirements for solar cells electric generation, etc, etc, etc,,,,
&lt;/i&gt;]]

The amount of energy involved in air motion in Earth&#039;s atmosphere is several orders of magnitude greater than anything we can tap with windmills in the foreseeable future.  And ground-based solar thermal power is doing just fine.  They even use molten salts to store extra heat during the day so the plants can run at night.  Some STEC plants run almost 24/7.  I&#039;d much rather have solar and wind power than either fossil fuel or nuclear...  or space solar power, which has severe technical problems of its own.  Do you know how fast materials and instruments degrade in cislunar space?  Do you remember how much it cost to fix the Hubble?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary writes:</p>
<p>[[<i>home grown solar power has severe limitations, like interference with local wind patterns(wind power), ocean current mixing of nutrients(wave power), fertilizer overflow into the gulf of Mexico from growing corn for ethanol and the subsequent creation of “dead zones”, excessive land requirements for solar cells electric generation, etc, etc, etc,,,,<br />
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<p>The amount of energy involved in air motion in Earth&#8217;s atmosphere is several orders of magnitude greater than anything we can tap with windmills in the foreseeable future.  And ground-based solar thermal power is doing just fine.  They even use molten salts to store extra heat during the day so the plants can run at night.  Some STEC plants run almost 24/7.  I&#8217;d much rather have solar and wind power than either fossil fuel or nuclear&#8230;  or space solar power, which has severe technical problems of its own.  Do you know how fast materials and instruments degrade in cislunar space?  Do you remember how much it cost to fix the Hubble?</p>
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		<title>By: MattFunke</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattFunke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary Ansorge: &lt;i&gt;Energy is the gold and not something that would ruin the home bound economy. It will become the single most important reason for settling the High Frontier,&lt;/i&gt;

Perhaps in the near term, yes, but that&#039;s not nearly as important in the long run as learning to live there.  I also submit that there would be some major economic reshuffling if solar power satellites got up and running in a serious way.  They&#039;re much better for the ecology, certainly, and I wish we&#039;d get down to using them much more quickly than we are, but as the rules change for who acquires energy from the source, who distributes it, and how much it costs, don&#039;t think that it will leave the home economy significantly unperturbed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary Ansorge: <i>Energy is the gold and not something that would ruin the home bound economy. It will become the single most important reason for settling the High Frontier,</i></p>
<p>Perhaps in the near term, yes, but that&#8217;s not nearly as important in the long run as learning to live there.  I also submit that there would be some major economic reshuffling if solar power satellites got up and running in a serious way.  They&#8217;re much better for the ecology, certainly, and I wish we&#8217;d get down to using them much more quickly than we are, but as the rules change for who acquires energy from the source, who distributes it, and how much it costs, don&#8217;t think that it will leave the home economy significantly unperturbed.</p>
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