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Want: Part III

Via Astropixie comes this item of win:

But it doesn’t say how I can get one!

And how would 1984 open? “It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking 9 + root(9) + 9/9.” Not quite the same ring to it.

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January 4th, 2008 1:00 PM by Phil Plait in Cool stuff, Humor | 62 comments | RSS feed | Trackback >

62 Responses to “Want: Part III”

  1. 1.   Fritriac Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    Woah! Schweet! Definitely want too!

  2. 2.   Genesius Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    Find it at http://www.cafepress.com/triplenine.2445706

  3. 3.   Rav Winston Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    Oh! This is TOO FRELLING KEWL!

  4. 4.   aiabx Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    Hey! The clock says it’s time for 9 beers!

  5. 5.   JackC Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    Feh. It isn’t a sqrt(9) * 9 – sqrt(9) hour clock. Who needs it?

  6. 6.   alfaniner Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    Do I want one?

    Nein!

  7. 7.   alfaniner Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Actually – maybe I do want one — I love unusual clocks. But the joke didn’t work the other way…

  8. 8.   SonOfSLJ Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    I would have phrased the joke something like…

    “Can I live without one?

    Nein!”
    :)

  9. 9.   Christian X Burnham Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    You need to express 13 using only three ’9′s. Can it be done?

  10. 10.   Michelle Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    that is so GEEK!

    I want it! (what’s the triple nine society?)

  11. 11.   Fergus Gallagher Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    13 = 9 + sqrt(9) + .9 bar

  12. 12.   SonOfSLJ Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    http://www.triplenine.org/

    Mensa +1

  13. 13.   Chip Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    D’oh! Oh course. I gotta get that.

  14. 14.   The Centipede Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    I think I’ve confused my coworkers enough with my binary clocks.

  15. 15.   Cameron Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    I just need to figure out how to replicate the cool design in the center. Then it’s not too hard to print out a clock face and replace an old one.

  16. 16.   MarshallDog Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    There’s a glare… does 1 o’clock say (9/9) to the 9th power?
    And does anyone know how to prove .9 bar is equal to 1?

  17. 17.   Chris R. Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    Why do analog clocks even have numbers? Are they afraid people will forget how to tell time on them? :P

  18. 18.   Phy Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Chris R. – but if you don’t have numbers on an analog clock, how will you know when you’ve hung it upside down? ;)

  19. 19.   Fergus Gallagher Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    @MarshallDog

    (‘ = bar)

    x=.9′
    10x – x = 9.9′ – 0.9′ = 9
    => x=1

    OR

    1/3 = .3′
    3 * .3′ = 3 * 1/3 = 1
    but 3 * .3′ = 0.9′
    => 0.9′ = 1

  20. 20.   Fergus Gallagher Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    @Chris R

    - I guess you don’t have have young children to try to teach to tell the time, then!

  21. 21.   Barton Paul Levenson Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    This clock gets a failing grade. It fails to reduce the expressions to the simplest possible terms.

  22. 22.   Evolving Squid Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    It fails to reduce the expressions to the simplest possible terms.

    Lawyers need clocks too.

  23. 23.   The Centipede Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    > Why do analog clocks even have numbers? Are they afraid people will forget how to tell time on them?

    There are 12-hour analog clocks, 24-hour analog clocks, probably various other X-hour analog clocks for specific purposes, so on and so forth…

  24. 24.   ZZMike Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    OK, OK, I’m entranced by the none-ness of the thing, but ….

    … why 9?

    They could have used any other single-digit integer (though “1″ would have been pretty pointless).

  25. 25.   ZZMike Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    OK, OK, I’m entranced by the none-ness of thing, but ….

    … why 9?

    They could have used any other single-digit integer (though “1″ would have been pretty pointless).

  26. 26.   Mikhail Bragoria Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    pfft… it’s not even a 24 hour clock.

  27. 27.   Murff Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    I like the inner design, it would be better without all the 9 crap…

  28. 28.   Sean Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Doesn’t have to be nine. I just worked out a whole clock using a triple 3.
    8 was pretty trippy. Any other numbers?

  29. 29.   Moose Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    Oh, that’s slick. I want one.

  30. 30.   Lugosi Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    is there any particular significance to the symbol in the center. Reminds of something from the TV series Threshold a couple of years ago.

  31. 31.   Tim G Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    Suggested Remaining Hours for a 24 Hour Clock:

    9+9 – 9!/9
    9 + 9!/9
    9! / sqrt(9) OR 9 + sqrt(9)!
    9! / sqrt(9) + 9/9 OR 9 + sqrt(9)! + 9/9
    9+9 – 9/9
    9+9
    9+9 + 9/9
    ( 9 – sqrt(9) )! – 9/9
    ( 9 – sqrt(9) )!
    ( 9 – sqrt(9) )! + 9/9
    9! / sqrt(9) + 9

  32. 32.   MandyDax Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 7:04 pm

    @Tim G
    It’s a triple-nine clock. You have to use exactly three nines in the expressions.
    13=9+sqrt(9)+.9bar
    14=9+sqrt(9)!-.9bar
    15=9+9-sqrt(9)
    16=9+sqrt(9)!+.9bar
    17=9+9-.9bar
    18=9/sqrt(9)*sqrt(9)!
    19=9+9+.9bar
    20=?
    21=9+9+sqrt(9)
    22=?
    23=?
    0=9(9-9)

    BTW, 9!=9*8*7*6*5*4*3*2*1=362880

    I couldn’t find solutions for 20, 22, and 23 using three 9′s. I’m sure someone here is smart enough with logic to prove if there are no solutions for them. :P

  33. 33.   Anotherplayaguy Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    Has anyone worked out the numbers 1-12 using three sixes?

    If so, I’d like to see it.

    Thanks,

  34. 34.   Jack Hagerty Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    ZZMike says: “OK, OK, I’m entranced by the nine-ness of thing, but ….
    … why 9? They could have used any other single-digit integer (though “1? would have been pretty pointless).”

    It’s a reference to the “triple 9 society”, a sort of super-Mensa group where your IQ has to be at or above 99.9% of the general population (roughly 134).

    - Jack

  35. 35.   Evolving Squid Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    1 = ((6-6)*6)!
    2 = (6+6)/6
    3 =
    4 =
    5 = 6-(6/6)
    6 = 6-(6-6)
    7 = 6+(6/6)
    8 =
    9 =
    10 =
    11 = 66/6
    12 = 6+(sqrt(6) * sqrt(6))

  36. 36.   Keith Thompson Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    alfaniner wrote:
    > Do I want one?
    >
    > Nein!

    Do I want one?

    Nein. I want nine! (But not 9!)

  37. 37.   Tim G Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    Oops! I just realized that I was thinking of triangular numbers when I was using the factorial (!) symbol.

    Substitute Tn for n!.

  38. 38.   Crudely Wrott Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    That’s the miracle of analog devices. You needn’t know the delineations that the hands are passing, you only need to know their relative positions on the dial. That, plus knowing whether it is day or night, tells you the time at a glance.

    That’s why analog (needle) gauges are still predominant in race cars. They are in airplanes too. Even those with glass cockpits display critical indicators such as artificial horizon and rate of climb as digitally simulated analog instruments. They are simply more intuitive and can be understood at a glance even under demanding circumstances.

  39. 39.   Ronan Cunniffe Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    1 = F((6+6)/6)
    2 = sqrt(F(6+6))/6
    3 = F(6+6 – F(6))
    4 = 6+6-F(6)
    5 = F(6-(6/6))
    6 = F(6) – F(6/6)
    7 = F(6) – F(6/6)
    8 = F(6) + (6-6)
    9 = F(6) + (6/6)
    10 = F(6) + F(6) – 6
    11 = F(6) + (F(F(6)) mod 6)
    12 = F(6+6)
    13 = F(6+(6/6))

    I started trying to finish Evolving Squid’s solution, but things rapidly multiplied out of control… 11 gave me serious paws for thought.

    Ronan

  40. 40.   Ronan Cunniffe Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    Oops. Some of those got away…

    6 = sqrt(F(6+6))-6
    12 = F(6*6/6)

    Ronan

  41. 41.   chris H Says:
    January 4th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    even though the answers to the equasions are all ready known, how most of those answers pan out I dont know

    all i can say when i see that language called math is WHAT THE?!?

  42. 42.   Phineas J. Whoopie Says:
    January 5th, 2008 at 1:01 am

    Great fun, but seriously, people who own these should not be walking around unsupervised.

  43. 43.   Fergus Gallagher Says:
    January 5th, 2008 at 5:13 am

    20 = floor(sqrt(sqrt(factorial(9))))-sqrt(9)-.9bar
    23 = floor(sqrt(sqrt(factorial(9)))) – 9/9

  44. 44.   Fergus Gallagher Says:
    January 5th, 2008 at 5:19 am

    22 = floor(sqrt(sqrt(gamma(9)))) + 9 – .9bar

    I don’t think “gamma” and “floor” are cheating if “bar” and “factorial” are allowed :-)

  45. 45.   LUke Says:
    January 5th, 2008 at 10:01 am

    Fergus already pointed this out on how 6.999 repeating does equal 7 but the equation here was a little easier for me to understand, so:

    n=0.9 repeating
    10n=9.9 repeating
    10n-n=9
    9n=9
    n=1

    I’ve heard of this, but never seen the proof for it…interesting

  46. 46.   Ronan Cunniffe Says:
    January 5th, 2008 at 11:28 am

    @Luke:

    Write 1/3 as a decimal.
    Multiply by 3.
    Discuss. :-)

    Ronan

  47. 47.   Links of the Week (2008/01) :: cimddwc Says:
    January 5th, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    [...] A clock with only nines (via Bad Astronomy) [...]

  48. 48.   Luk3 Says:
    January 5th, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    1984 was a very well written book. George Orwell is amazing. Also what is that clock going by it make no sense.

  49. 49.   Lurchgs Says:
    January 5th, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    Co-worker had one. Loved it. Bought one for youngest LurchGS replacement’s birthday, and sent one to LurchGS’ immediate paternal progenitor for the end-of-year celebration.

    Sadly, overlooked ordering one for self. Oh well, I can always stop in Youngest’s room for a time check

  50. 50.   Pages tagged "bad" Says:
    January 6th, 2008 at 1:11 am

    [...] online community. The best part is … it’s all 100% free! Check them out here: Join Hey Nielsen! Want: Part III saved by 1 others     jetsetshow bookmarked on 01/06/08 | [...]

  51. 51.   Mango Says:
    January 6th, 2008 at 9:19 am

    I clicked though to the comments on this just to see if there might be a Holy War on the “0.999…. = 1″ issue. I’m happy to see that there isn’t. Maybe because the readership here understands the implication of mathematical proof better than other places on the Internet.

  52. 52.   Shannon Says:
    January 6th, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    I want this clock so when you get the information you better tell me!

  53. 53.   Robert Carnegie Says:
    January 6th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    My sister has a backwards clock. The hands run in reverse direction and I think all the figures are mirror images. Besides a good gimmick, it would suit in a traditional barber’s shop.

    I didn’t quite catch in a [30 Rock] episode where the girls were discussing these two guys they might date, one of the guys was shown explaining laboriously he has a watch he is real proud of, that shows the time in pie slices, I think he -may- have meant analogue style… don’t do it, lady! :-)

  54. 54.   Anotherplayaguy Says:
    January 8th, 2008 at 12:06 am

    Ronan,

    Thanks for the input, but I am confused by F(6) which seems to equal 8. Why is that?

    Thanks

  55. 55.   Joe Kraus Says:
    January 8th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    What is the meaning of a time of day that is plus or minus 3:00 o’clock, or any of the other times that involve a square root. For example, the 4:00 spot could also be -2:00, since -3+1=-2.

    Joe

  56. 56.   Nadia Says:
    January 13th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    Awesome.

  57. 57.   printzen Says:
    February 5th, 2008 at 12:51 am

    A better representation of the number 7 using three nines is: 9/.9 – sqrt(9) = 7 exactly. This avoids any need for discussion about whether .9 recurring is or is not equivalent to 1 (at least in reference to the “3 nines clock”)

  58. 58.   Me Says:
    April 9th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Here is a gadget that uses this clock:

    http://scripts.tropicalpcsolutions.com/html/gadgets/9clock.html

  59. 59.   Talk Like A Physicist » Blog Archive » Ultimate clock for a physicist. - you gotta have this : Physics, math and Pi clocks Says:
    September 27th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    [...] 9 clock Via Astropixie and Bad Astronomy and Triple Nine [...]

  60. 60.   j m rowland Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    9
    9
    obscured by reflected light glare
    FAIL!
    BAD geek, BAD geek!
    No cheeto for you!

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    May 4th, 2009 at 4:24 am

    [...] (images via 1, 2, 3, 4) [...]

  62. 62.   Extraordinary Clocks and Watches | Gulali Blog Says:
    May 7th, 2009 at 3:58 am

    [...] (images via 1, 2, 3, 4) [...]

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