[[the Palestineans while imperfect, are the goodies in the Israeli-Palestinean conflict ]]

Let’s see, the Palestinians have hijacked planes, kidnapped and murdered Olympic athletes, taken over a kibbutz and bashed toddlers’ brains out by swinging them by the legs into walls, torn captured soldiers to pieces, and blown up restaurants, cafes, nightclubs, marketplaces, buses, and hotels. They constantly repeat anti-Semitic propaganda in their news broadcasts, books, and popular literature — even their elementary school textbooks talk about the Jews mixing the blood of Christian and Muslim babies in the passover matzoh, Jews poisoning wells, and the Holocaust being made up to generate sympathy for the Jews.

By contrast, the Israelis have occupied Jordanian territory after Jordan repeatedly attacked them, fired rubber bullets into rioting crowds, bulldozed houses of people who have made bombs, and tortured prisoners, though the ones who did the latter are now in jail, something which has never happened to soldiers in Palestine or in an Arab country.

This must be some strange new definition of “goodies” I never heard before.

The Isreali lobby is, in stark truth, behind the Neo-Conservative movement (the two are in many cases identical) and – at least partially – responsible for the illegal and, as we’ve now seen, disasterously counter-productive invasion and occupation of Iraq plus tehcontinued occupation and repression of Palestine. Isreal and through Isreal the USA has salso generally been the aggressor in South-West Asia (or the Muslim World) for decades.

I strongly and vocally oppose that.

Moreover, I think the only reason most intelligent and rational people do not also oppose it is through the Israeli lobbies vastly disproportionate media and political influence and their massive media disinformation and propganda spinning in favour of Israel.

I suggest that you (& everyone else) read some of Noam Chomsky and Edward Said’s works among others yourself for a better understanding of this whole issue.

I hardly think that counts as conspiracy theory, unfortunately its just the reality.

“StevoR, the keys on your keyboard are *labelled*, aren’t they?”

Hang on I’ll check …

…. Yup.

Yeah, I know I just keep hitting the wrong ones … Sigh.

Just the way I work I guess but I usually do a rough first draft .. then check thro’ make some corrections, click submit, then notice all the typos I hadn’t seen and honestly didn’t think were there … I’d really *LOVE* an editing capability here for that reason .. I may have mentioned that on rare occassions too!

Firefox eh? Thanks ‘Centipede’, I may have to look into that.

As for :

[channeling StevoR] Must be the Five Jew Bankers and the worldwide capital concentration conspiracy. [/channeling]

There’s more proof pyschic channeling is ..uh .. BS!

Come on, I’m NOT that bad.

Pointing out the vastly disproportionate influence of the Israeli lobby on your nations affairs when Jews and Muslims are _each_ a mere 5 % of teh USA’s population is a very, *very* different thing to unplugging one’s brains and shrieking “heil Hitler!” I’m all about the former NOT the latter.

In no way do I endorse the ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ or other such ridiculous and offensive tracts. 5 bankers, no, five bansk maybe ..

I’m not anti-Jewish; I fully accept that the ‘Shoah’ or Jewish Holocaust happened and that Hitler murdered about 5 million Jews (plus Blacks, Gypsies, Russians, dissenting Germans, the mentally ill and physically disabled ad nauseam) – although I would point out that it has been politically exploited and over-emphasised relative to other comparable or worse genocides. (Eg. those against the Native Americans whose cultures were largely wiped out or the Maoist genocide whichwasnumerically far worse. Or the on-going attempted genocideof the Palestineans, Tibetans, Chechens, Darfurians etc ..which we shoudlbe acting against now.) Despite how they make things sound the Jews were not the ONLY group in history to suffer persecution, oppression and genocide – in fact in some cases & at some times, the Jewish peoples have actually been the perpretarteurs rather tahn victims of such injustices and atrocities. (Eg. Canaanites, Moabites, Amalekites, Samaritans, Palestineans, Lebanese, … quite arguably Iraqi’s too nowdays.)

In saying this let me state firmly that I do NOT call for Israel’s total destruction (its removal to NewYork sometimes, tongue-in-cheek but not its annhiliation altogether) nor would I ever call for the persecution of any ethnic -religio-cultural group.

I’ve studied the issue at university very closely; looked at both sides and my conclusion basedon years of study and hundreds of different books and evidence is that, distilled down, the Palestineans while imperfect, are the goodies in the Israeli-Palestinean conflict and that the creation of Israel to salve European consciences was a huge mistake for everybody involved not least the Jews. Apart from anything else it gave Hitler what he wanted – Jews out of Europe and into another place. For another, it has increasingly termed the Jews into intolerant, brutalised, thuggish, uber-patriots and exclusivist religious fanatics – an ironic & depressing twist.

The Isreali lobby is, in stark relaity, behind tehNeo-Conservative movemntand atleastpartially repponsible fortheillegal and we’ve now sen disasterous and counter-productive invasionand occupationof Iraq plus Palestine and has been the aggressor in SouthWest Asia (or the Muslim World) for decades.

I strongly and vocally oppose that.

Moreover, I think the only reason most intelligent and rational people do not also oppose it is through the Israeli lobbies vastly disproportionate media and political influence.

I hardly think that counts as conspiracy theory, unfortunately its just the reality.

That may just be the whole idea behind this.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080107195154.zz47kw4z&show_article=1

[channeling StevoR] Must be the Five Jew Bankers and the worldwide capital concentration conspiracy. [/channeling]

I mean, I’m sort of pinko too in some ways, but come on… oh, and get Firefox. I think it has a spellcheck-as-you-type add-in.