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	<title>Comments on: Alien signal from Arecibo and SETI???</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/16/alien-signal-from-arecibo-and-seti/comment-page-1/#comment-64057</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Signal or no signal, they are out there and i know it.. ive seen it myself, and one day we will all know it.. just have a little faith and keep living life and something will happen soon..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Signal or no signal, they are out there and i know it.. ive seen it myself, and one day we will all know it.. just have a little faith and keep living life and something will happen soon..</p>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[[&lt;i&gt;I wonder if the Wow! signal of 1977 was a similar case, a planetary radar beam sweeping the sky which just happened to interesect Earth.&lt;/i&gt;]]

I wonder about that thing.  I&#039;ve heard, unofficially, that they&#039;ve detected about 30 similar signals from elsewhere in the sky, but like the first, they were never repeated.

The WOW signal was about four milliseconds long and patterned at the microsecond level.  My first thought when I heard that was, &quot;4,096 bits.&quot;  Are we picking up data packets sent by alien computers or space probes?  If so, it would tend to confirm that the speed of light limit is absolute and that there&#039;s nothing better than radio to be discovered, so I sincerely hope it turns out to be some natural phenomenon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[[<i>I wonder if the Wow! signal of 1977 was a similar case, a planetary radar beam sweeping the sky which just happened to interesect Earth.</i>]]</p>
<p>I wonder about that thing.  I&#8217;ve heard, unofficially, that they&#8217;ve detected about 30 similar signals from elsewhere in the sky, but like the first, they were never repeated.</p>
<p>The WOW signal was about four milliseconds long and patterned at the microsecond level.  My first thought when I heard that was, &#8220;4,096 bits.&#8221;  Are we picking up data packets sent by alien computers or space probes?  If so, it would tend to confirm that the speed of light limit is absolute and that there&#8217;s nothing better than radio to be discovered, so I sincerely hope it turns out to be some natural phenomenon.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/16/alien-signal-from-arecibo-and-seti/comment-page-1/#comment-64055</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ET, phone home!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ET, phone home!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Marking</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/16/alien-signal-from-arecibo-and-seti/comment-page-1/#comment-64054</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Marking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a very interesting article that was written years ago on this subject:

http://www.bigear.org/CSMO/PDF/CS05/cs05p28.pdf

Scroll down to the section labeled:
B. The Solar System Signature.  How Our Solar System Would Appear to an Observer at a Distant Star

There&#039;s a very interesting chart here which shows that humanity&#039;s television broadcasts could be detectible out to 1 light-year.  Unfortunately there are no other star systems that close.  However our early warning radar signals could be detected at a distance of 100 light-years and our planetary radar signals could be detected out to a distance of almost 10,000 light-years.  Of course, these last two signals are very directional so the receiving civilization would have to be by chance in the beam of the signal which is probably not very likely.  I wonder if the Wow! signal of 1977 was a similar case, a planetary radar beam sweeping the sky which just happened to interesect Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a very interesting article that was written years ago on this subject:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bigear.org/CSMO/PDF/CS05/cs05p28.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.bigear.org/CSMO/PDF/CS05/cs05p28.pdf</a></p>
<p>Scroll down to the section labeled:<br />
B. The Solar System Signature.  How Our Solar System Would Appear to an Observer at a Distant Star</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a very interesting chart here which shows that humanity&#8217;s television broadcasts could be detectible out to 1 light-year.  Unfortunately there are no other star systems that close.  However our early warning radar signals could be detected at a distance of 100 light-years and our planetary radar signals could be detected out to a distance of almost 10,000 light-years.  Of course, these last two signals are very directional so the receiving civilization would have to be by chance in the beam of the signal which is probably not very likely.  I wonder if the Wow! signal of 1977 was a similar case, a planetary radar beam sweeping the sky which just happened to interesect Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TomR writes:

[[&lt;i&gt;I once read somewhere (Scientific American, maybe) that if there was a civilization just like us around Alpha Centuri, we wouldn’t know about it. Is that true?&lt;/i&gt;]]

Quite possibly.  Our TV signals get out of the atmosphere and are now quite far away, but they would be extremely faint even by the time they got to Alpha Centauri.  Dr. Plait?  Could aliens on Alpha Centauri A II pick up the signals from the DEW line or something of the sort?  Or would they need an antenna larger than a planet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TomR writes:</p>
<p>[[<i>I once read somewhere (Scientific American, maybe) that if there was a civilization just like us around Alpha Centuri, we wouldn’t know about it. Is that true?</i>]]</p>
<p>Quite possibly.  Our TV signals get out of the atmosphere and are now quite far away, but they would be extremely faint even by the time they got to Alpha Centauri.  Dr. Plait?  Could aliens on Alpha Centauri A II pick up the signals from the DEW line or something of the sort?  Or would they need an antenna larger than a planet?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hello, this is deposed Galactic Prince Jzzzzzphlopsk.  I have lost my kingdom and need your help.  Send 78 quadrillion Space Dollars to the following off-planet account and you will be repayed greatly&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hello, this is deposed Galactic Prince Jzzzzzphlopsk.  I have lost my kingdom and need your help.  Send 78 quadrillion Space Dollars to the following off-planet account and you will be repayed greatly&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lugosi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lugosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s hope their favorite book is NOT something called &quot;To Serve Man.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s hope their favorite book is NOT something called &#8220;To Serve Man.&#8221;</p>
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