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	<title>Comments on: That sense of&#8230; Enterprise</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: newjet</title>
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		<dc:creator>newjet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey .the turbines make sense, you need thrust to get moving like a jet with little fuel that that injects particles threw the blades as particles that will fire up the magnetic warp coils that will generate a quantum magnetic field around the exaust for plasma to be jetted. The impulse engine is very simple,it is a cooling system or rad for the plasma exaust that is a turbine itself ,like a hydro turbine that very slowly turns with steam from the plasma that is again connected to the main warp coil to generate cooling for the engines.I don&#039;t have a place to send you pictures of these types of engines, but you will need a quantum computer before you can get an engine like this to work, they are coming soon.Oh, and by the way if you want to know about the gravity around the ship just take a magnet and set up some needles pushing up in a negative field with a paper connected , there, there is you anti gravity, in a very small example. I know somethings about these engine designs, they are generally simple,you just need that quantum computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey .the turbines make sense, you need thrust to get moving like a jet with little fuel that that injects particles threw the blades as particles that will fire up the magnetic warp coils that will generate a quantum magnetic field around the exaust for plasma to be jetted. The impulse engine is very simple,it is a cooling system or rad for the plasma exaust that is a turbine itself ,like a hydro turbine that very slowly turns with steam from the plasma that is again connected to the main warp coil to generate cooling for the engines.I don&#8217;t have a place to send you pictures of these types of engines, but you will need a quantum computer before you can get an engine like this to work, they are coming soon.Oh, and by the way if you want to know about the gravity around the ship just take a magnet and set up some needles pushing up in a negative field with a paper connected , there, there is you anti gravity, in a very small example. I know somethings about these engine designs, they are generally simple,you just need that quantum computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars Bruchmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars Bruchmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually we use mm/Hg in aviation.  Pressure altitude or field elevation is set that way.  Standard pressure is 29.92&quot; or 1013mm of Hg.  Most small aircraft altimeters have only inches / Hg in their Kohlsman window, but larger commercial ones normally have mm as well.
There was a line in Stargate SG-1 in the episode &quot;the other guys&quot; where one of the scientists, realising how precarious the situation is, states that &quot;we may as well be wearing red shirts.&quot;
And my cell phone is MORE advanced than Kirk&#039;s communicator!  I have a calculator and a camera in mine.  Now if I could just figure out how to use them!  :)  I&#039;ll go ask the 4 y.o. next door....
This is a lively debate now, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually we use mm/Hg in aviation.  Pressure altitude or field elevation is set that way.  Standard pressure is 29.92&#8243; or 1013mm of Hg.  Most small aircraft altimeters have only inches / Hg in their Kohlsman window, but larger commercial ones normally have mm as well.<br />
There was a line in Stargate SG-1 in the episode &#8220;the other guys&#8221; where one of the scientists, realising how precarious the situation is, states that &#8220;we may as well be wearing red shirts.&#8221;<br />
And my cell phone is MORE advanced than Kirk&#8217;s communicator!  I have a calculator and a camera in mine.  Now if I could just figure out how to use them!  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I&#8217;ll go ask the 4 y.o. next door&#8230;.<br />
This is a lively debate now, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JediBear posts:

[[&lt;i&gt; mmHg is a perfectly serviceable unit of measure for atmospheric pressure, and is still used in the 21st Century.&lt;/i&gt;]]

&lt;i&gt;WHERE?&lt;/i&gt;  I haven&#039;t seen it used for years, and it certainly isn&#039;t used in the scientific literature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JediBear posts:</p>
<p>[[<i> mmHg is a perfectly serviceable unit of measure for atmospheric pressure, and is still used in the 21st Century.</i>]]</p>
<p><i>WHERE?</i>  I haven&#8217;t seen it used for years, and it certainly isn&#8217;t used in the scientific literature.</p>
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		<title>By: JB of Brisbane</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB of Brisbane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AIABX writes, &quot;Ummm… I’m afraid I may be overgeeking here, but I seem to recall the the Enterprise was built at the Planitia shipyards on Mars. Or did I hallucinate that after too many cheetos?&quot;

To my ST knowledge, the Enterprise-D (NCC-1701-D) from ST:TNG was constructed at Planetia Utopia on Mars. By contrast, I remember Commodore Robert April in &quot;The Counter-Clock Incident&quot; (Animated Series) saying that he was there &quot;at the San Francisco Navy Yards&quot; when the original Enterprise&#039;s &quot;unit components were built.&quot;

I don&#039;t mean to outgeek you, but there it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AIABX writes, &#8220;Ummm… I’m afraid I may be overgeeking here, but I seem to recall the the Enterprise was built at the Planitia shipyards on Mars. Or did I hallucinate that after too many cheetos?&#8221;</p>
<p>To my ST knowledge, the Enterprise-D (NCC-1701-D) from ST:TNG was constructed at Planetia Utopia on Mars. By contrast, I remember Commodore Robert April in &#8220;The Counter-Clock Incident&#8221; (Animated Series) saying that he was there &#8220;at the San Francisco Navy Yards&#8221; when the original Enterprise&#8217;s &#8220;unit components were built.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to outgeek you, but there it is.</p>
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		<title>By: JediBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>JediBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nobody wore a red uniform in TMP. They all had those awful grey-white things that looked like a cross between a leotard and a leisure suit &quot;

Point. A meaningless point, to be sure, but a technicality which should be acknowledged in case anyone actually cares.

&quot;I can think of an exception — the medical technology. If you remember the episode “Journey to Babel,” they needed a relative of Sarek’s to transfuse blood to the poor guy — apparently the 23rd century hadn’t come up with a blood substitute. &quot;

Or they didn&#039;t have any blood substitute in stock which was appropriate to Sarek&#039;s physilology. Modern medicine doesn&#039;t have a vulcan blood substitute either, so no points there.

&quot;And I remember Doctor McCoy in another episode giving an atmospheric pressure reading from a tricorder in “millimeters of mercury.” Any climatologist or meteorologist in the 23rd century should be using pascals, or at least millibars.&quot;

Units of measure are not a matter of technological advance. mmHg is a perfectly serviceable unit of measure for atmospheric pressure, and is still used in the 21st Century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nobody wore a red uniform in TMP. They all had those awful grey-white things that looked like a cross between a leotard and a leisure suit &#8221;</p>
<p>Point. A meaningless point, to be sure, but a technicality which should be acknowledged in case anyone actually cares.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can think of an exception — the medical technology. If you remember the episode “Journey to Babel,” they needed a relative of Sarek’s to transfuse blood to the poor guy — apparently the 23rd century hadn’t come up with a blood substitute. &#8221;</p>
<p>Or they didn&#8217;t have any blood substitute in stock which was appropriate to Sarek&#8217;s physilology. Modern medicine doesn&#8217;t have a vulcan blood substitute either, so no points there.</p>
<p>&#8220;And I remember Doctor McCoy in another episode giving an atmospheric pressure reading from a tricorder in “millimeters of mercury.” Any climatologist or meteorologist in the 23rd century should be using pascals, or at least millibars.&#8221;</p>
<p>Units of measure are not a matter of technological advance. mmHg is a perfectly serviceable unit of measure for atmospheric pressure, and is still used in the 21st Century.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Carnegie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Carnegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 02:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all know the red shirt thing.  A landing party consists of three bridge crewmembers and one person in a red shirt that we never saw before.  The three guys from the bridge live to the end of the show.

I recall reading a review - I didn&#039;t study the episode in question - where there were -two- folks in red shirt, a woman and a black guy, and the aliens did a thing to them and only the black guy came out alive.  I hope I got that straight.

So if you are the -only- red-shirt person in a scene, is when you ask the captain if you can make a phone call to your loved ones.  Otherwise, you could be lucky, and you don&#039;t want to reduce your chances by admitting you -have- loved ones.  Or plans to quit the service and go into the shoe business.  Or musical ability.  (Unless you are good at funeral tunes, then you can play out at the end of the show.  Picard and Riker, for instance, have those skills.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know the red shirt thing.  A landing party consists of three bridge crewmembers and one person in a red shirt that we never saw before.  The three guys from the bridge live to the end of the show.</p>
<p>I recall reading a review &#8211; I didn&#8217;t study the episode in question &#8211; where there were -two- folks in red shirt, a woman and a black guy, and the aliens did a thing to them and only the black guy came out alive.  I hope I got that straight.</p>
<p>So if you are the -only- red-shirt person in a scene, is when you ask the captain if you can make a phone call to your loved ones.  Otherwise, you could be lucky, and you don&#8217;t want to reduce your chances by admitting you -have- loved ones.  Or plans to quit the service and go into the shoe business.  Or musical ability.  (Unless you are good at funeral tunes, then you can play out at the end of the show.  Picard and Riker, for instance, have those skills.)</p>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JediBear writes:

[[&lt;i&gt;“Modern technology is actually more advanced than is shown on Star Trek”
Based on what?
” except for the gizmos granted: Warp drive, antigravity, transporter and some medical gadgets.”
Some gizmos? /Everything/ aboard a 23rd-century Starship is more advanced than anything we had in the 80s, and only the most recent advances in 21st-century technology are starting to eclipse some of the less important advances of 24th-Century technology.&lt;/i&gt;]]

I can think of an exception -- the medical technology.  If you remember the episode &quot;Journey to Babel,&quot; they needed a relative of Sarek&#039;s to transfuse blood to the poor guy -- apparently the 23rd century hadn&#039;t come up with a blood substitute.  And I remember Doctor McCoy in another episode giving an atmospheric pressure reading from a tricorder in &quot;millimeters of mercury.&quot;  Any climatologist or meteorologist in the 23rd century should be using pascals, or at least millibars.

Then there&#039;s the fact that soldiers shoot at each other with guns -- where are the robot soldiers?  How long will human soldiers survive as an institution once governments can field robots that can seek, aim, fire and take down thirty or so opponents every second?  The idea of Han Solo getting behind the battle droid in &quot;The Empire Strikes Back&quot; and shooting it while it&#039;s distracted makes for nice special effects, but it isn&#039;t terribly realistic.  (Yes, I know we&#039;re discussing Star Trek and not Star Wars.  Just making a point about robot soldiers.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JediBear writes:</p>
<p>[[<i>“Modern technology is actually more advanced than is shown on Star Trek”<br />
Based on what?<br />
” except for the gizmos granted: Warp drive, antigravity, transporter and some medical gadgets.”<br />
Some gizmos? /Everything/ aboard a 23rd-century Starship is more advanced than anything we had in the 80s, and only the most recent advances in 21st-century technology are starting to eclipse some of the less important advances of 24th-Century technology.</i>]]</p>
<p>I can think of an exception &#8212; the medical technology.  If you remember the episode &#8220;Journey to Babel,&#8221; they needed a relative of Sarek&#8217;s to transfuse blood to the poor guy &#8212; apparently the 23rd century hadn&#8217;t come up with a blood substitute.  And I remember Doctor McCoy in another episode giving an atmospheric pressure reading from a tricorder in &#8220;millimeters of mercury.&#8221;  Any climatologist or meteorologist in the 23rd century should be using pascals, or at least millibars.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the fact that soldiers shoot at each other with guns &#8212; where are the robot soldiers?  How long will human soldiers survive as an institution once governments can field robots that can seek, aim, fire and take down thirty or so opponents every second?  The idea of Han Solo getting behind the battle droid in &#8220;The Empire Strikes Back&#8221; and shooting it while it&#8217;s distracted makes for nice special effects, but it isn&#8217;t terribly realistic.  (Yes, I know we&#8217;re discussing Star Trek and not Star Wars.  Just making a point about robot soldiers.)</p>
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