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		<title>By: Darth Robo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Robo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, um, what was your name again?

:p</description>
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<p>:p</p>
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		<title>By: Boba Fett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boba Fett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it. Ever. I am not one of you pathetic loser, queer, geek, nerds who gives a rat&#039;s ass about anything related to Star trek, which only has a mediocre cult following and is quickly losing that, too. I have always loved astronomy, but I get laid. Poor you. All of you. Pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it. Ever. I am not one of you pathetic loser, queer, geek, nerds who gives a rat&#8217;s ass about anything related to Star trek, which only has a mediocre cult following and is quickly losing that, too. I have always loved astronomy, but I get laid. Poor you. All of you. Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/18/trek-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-64518</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>720 and 1080p HD trailers are available on the official Paramount website, now.

http://www.paramount.com/startrek/

December is too far away. Will make a nice Birthday/Christmas gift, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>720 and 1080p HD trailers are available on the official Paramount website, now.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.paramount.com/startrek/" rel="nofollow">http://www.paramount.com/startrek/</a></p>
<p>December is too far away. Will make a nice Birthday/Christmas gift, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So funny that fans could possibly be worried about some kind of stable &quot;canon&quot; being maintained across 40 or so years of Star Trek shows, movies and spinoff TV shows.

The original series didn&#039;t even have a &quot;canon&quot; since the people at NBC probably reasoned that the individual episodes of this late night campy scifi TV series would never be seen again comparatively, never mind go into endless syndicated repeats.

For what it&#039;s worth, as a fan I don&#039;t consider anything beyond the fourth Trek movie to be &quot;canon&quot;, especially Next Gen, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise. Sure I watched many episodes of those mostly-awful series, but they haven&#039;t aged well and sure as heck don&#039;t hold a candle to the goofy fun of the original series that inspired them. On the other hand, I don&#039;t get my panties in a bunch that Paramount slapped the name &quot;Star Trek&quot; on those awful series, any more than I&#039;m upset about all the crappy licensed Trek &quot;novels&quot; cramming science fiction bookshelves...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So funny that fans could possibly be worried about some kind of stable &#8220;canon&#8221; being maintained across 40 or so years of Star Trek shows, movies and spinoff TV shows.</p>
<p>The original series didn&#8217;t even have a &#8220;canon&#8221; since the people at NBC probably reasoned that the individual episodes of this late night campy scifi TV series would never be seen again comparatively, never mind go into endless syndicated repeats.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, as a fan I don&#8217;t consider anything beyond the fourth Trek movie to be &#8220;canon&#8221;, especially Next Gen, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise. Sure I watched many episodes of those mostly-awful series, but they haven&#8217;t aged well and sure as heck don&#8217;t hold a candle to the goofy fun of the original series that inspired them. On the other hand, I don&#8217;t get my panties in a bunch that Paramount slapped the name &#8220;Star Trek&#8221; on those awful series, any more than I&#8217;m upset about all the crappy licensed Trek &#8220;novels&#8221; cramming science fiction bookshelves&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz Parsec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzz Parsec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read through all the posts yet, but how about this:  They make any old movie they want to, and then at the end, after the credits, the screen lights up, and the camera pans around to reveal a movie theater with Shatner, Nimoy, and whoever else is still around (and a bunch of red shirts), sitting in the front row.  As they get up and file out, one of them says &quot;Was there *anything* in that movie that was historically accurate?&quot;  Another of the group replies &quot;No, but it was fun.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read through all the posts yet, but how about this:  They make any old movie they want to, and then at the end, after the credits, the screen lights up, and the camera pans around to reveal a movie theater with Shatner, Nimoy, and whoever else is still around (and a bunch of red shirts), sitting in the front row.  As they get up and file out, one of them says &#8220;Was there *anything* in that movie that was historically accurate?&#8221;  Another of the group replies &#8220;No, but it was fun.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, I loved the teaser.</description>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the people complaining absolutely astound me.

YOU. KNOW. NOTHING. You don&#039;t know ANYTHING concrete about what this movie is going to be about. All you know is the cast, the characters, the film crew, and some vague idea of &quot;it&#039;s set in multiple time periods and has Romulans in it&quot;. And judging by Mr &quot;OMGZtheEnterpriseisbeingbuiltintheteaserthatmeanstheyrethrowingoutTEHCANNON!!!11&quot; up the top of the comments, it looks like a lot of you don&#039;t even know THAT. (Captain Pike will be in the movie, played by Bruce Greenwood.)

The way that absolutely ANY new development will invariably set off a couple of dozen people wailing &quot;OH NOES, the sky is falling!!!&quot; absolutely sickens me. No wonder Star Trek has such a bad reputation. With fans like these, who needs antis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the people complaining absolutely astound me.</p>
<p>YOU. KNOW. NOTHING. You don&#8217;t know ANYTHING concrete about what this movie is going to be about. All you know is the cast, the characters, the film crew, and some vague idea of &#8220;it&#8217;s set in multiple time periods and has Romulans in it&#8221;. And judging by Mr &#8220;OMGZtheEnterpriseisbeingbuiltintheteaserthatmeanstheyrethrowingoutTEHCANNON!!!11&#8243; up the top of the comments, it looks like a lot of you don&#8217;t even know THAT. (Captain Pike will be in the movie, played by Bruce Greenwood.)</p>
<p>The way that absolutely ANY new development will invariably set off a couple of dozen people wailing &#8220;OH NOES, the sky is falling!!!&#8221; absolutely sickens me. No wonder Star Trek has such a bad reputation. With fans like these, who needs antis?</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, as long as we&#039;ve mentioned fan-made stuff, check out &quot;Starship Exeter,&quot; set during the TOS-era, but on a different starship. (The USS Exeter, duh.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, as long as we&#8217;ve mentioned fan-made stuff, check out &#8220;Starship Exeter,&#8221; set during the TOS-era, but on a different starship. (The USS Exeter, duh.)</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I&#039;m thinking this is little more than a big-screen version of &quot;New Voyages.&quot;

So, as I said earlier, meh.
I will lighten up a bit and say that I don&#039;t want things to remain the same and never change, but I do have to remain firm on my disdain for retroactive continuity.
Want to re-imagine ST? Fine, then do so, and make it clear that that&#039;s what&#039;s being done. But stop doing spin-offs that don&#039;t fit in to existing continuity... just make something new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;m thinking this is little more than a big-screen version of &#8220;New Voyages.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, as I said earlier, meh.<br />
I will lighten up a bit and say that I don&#8217;t want things to remain the same and never change, but I do have to remain firm on my disdain for retroactive continuity.<br />
Want to re-imagine ST? Fine, then do so, and make it clear that that&#8217;s what&#8217;s being done. But stop doing spin-offs that don&#8217;t fit in to existing continuity&#8230; just make something new.</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Robo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Robo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;do recall that the core members of the Federation were the Terrans, Tellarites, Andorians, and Vulcans. And it stated clearly that the Andorians were the first people that the humans met. I wish now (over thirty years later) I could point you to a specific text.&quot;

I don&#039;t particularly recall that being mentioned in the original series.  If that information was taken from anything written by Franz Joseph Designs (like the Starfleet Technical Manual) then it is considered non-canon.


Star Trek is something I consider to be light entertainment nowadays, since it has been overdone to death by Paramount.  I&#039;m not expecting anything amazing with this film, but as long as it&#039;s entertaining, I&#039;ll probably be happy.  But if anyone don&#039;t like it, might I suggest the fan-made &#039;New Voyages&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;do recall that the core members of the Federation were the Terrans, Tellarites, Andorians, and Vulcans. And it stated clearly that the Andorians were the first people that the humans met. I wish now (over thirty years later) I could point you to a specific text.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t particularly recall that being mentioned in the original series.  If that information was taken from anything written by Franz Joseph Designs (like the Starfleet Technical Manual) then it is considered non-canon.</p>
<p>Star Trek is something I consider to be light entertainment nowadays, since it has been overdone to death by Paramount.  I&#8217;m not expecting anything amazing with this film, but as long as it&#8217;s entertaining, I&#8217;ll probably be happy.  But if anyone don&#8217;t like it, might I suggest the fan-made &#8216;New Voyages&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: alfaniner</title>
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		<dc:creator>alfaniner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people complaining are the same ones who griped about the &quot;new Captain Kirk&quot; being bald, a Klingon on the bridge, Starbuck being a female, and the darker format of the new Battlestar Galactica.

Wendy and Richard Pini (of ElfQuest fame) had a term for these guys -- WETRATS.  These are the ones who Want Everything To Remain Always The Same.

I was thrilled by the opening sequence of Voyager, too.  I just hope that this movie lives up to its trailer more than that series did its opening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people complaining are the same ones who griped about the &#8220;new Captain Kirk&#8221; being bald, a Klingon on the bridge, Starbuck being a female, and the darker format of the new Battlestar Galactica.</p>
<p>Wendy and Richard Pini (of ElfQuest fame) had a term for these guys &#8212; WETRATS.  These are the ones who Want Everything To Remain Always The Same.</p>
<p>I was thrilled by the opening sequence of Voyager, too.  I just hope that this movie lives up to its trailer more than that series did its opening.</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Chapman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avi Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone worried about what&#039;s going through the writers&#039; heads about the movie, there&#039;s an interview with one of the producers here:

http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/19/interview-orci-answers-questions-about-new-trek-trailer/

It includes a Q/A session in the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone worried about what&#8217;s going through the writers&#8217; heads about the movie, there&#8217;s an interview with one of the producers here:</p>
<p><a href="http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/19/interview-orci-answers-questions-about-new-trek-trailer/" rel="nofollow">http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/19/interview-orci-answers-questions-about-new-trek-trailer/</a></p>
<p>It includes a Q/A session in the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: JediBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>JediBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;— Consumers of fiction have a right to expect internal consistency even across a large body of connected fiction.

Really? Which Amendment is that?&quot;

I don&#039;t believe I used the word &quot;constitutional&quot; anywhere. Nope. So clearly your question is nonsense.

I also didn&#039;t use the word &quot;legal&quot; or suggest that purveyors of drek had no right to engage in their craft. However, drek is drek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;— Consumers of fiction have a right to expect internal consistency even across a large body of connected fiction.</p>
<p>Really? Which Amendment is that?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe I used the word &#8220;constitutional&#8221; anywhere. Nope. So clearly your question is nonsense.</p>
<p>I also didn&#8217;t use the word &#8220;legal&#8221; or suggest that purveyors of drek had no right to engage in their craft. However, drek is drek.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone get the sense of dread that this is going to be almost the exact same plot as Star Trek: The Motion Picture?

Seems like an upgrade transition from one caption to another, the ship is in a very unfinished state, and there is certainly going to be some evil alien attacking the Earth directly.

Only hope I can see is that they don&#039;t completely rewrite canon by making the evil invaders the Borg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone get the sense of dread that this is going to be almost the exact same plot as Star Trek: The Motion Picture?</p>
<p>Seems like an upgrade transition from one caption to another, the ship is in a very unfinished state, and there is certainly going to be some evil alien attacking the Earth directly.</p>
<p>Only hope I can see is that they don&#8217;t completely rewrite canon by making the evil invaders the Borg.</p>
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		<title>By: M.J.Barlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.J.Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True enough. Have a look at the original trailer for &#039;Back to the Future&#039;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdajRnisx5U

I don&#039;t think any of that (apart from Huey Lewis) featured in the film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True enough. Have a look at the original trailer for &#8216;Back to the Future&#8217;<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdajRnisx5U" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdajRnisx5U</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think any of that (apart from Huey Lewis) featured in the film.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Scenes in trailers don’t always show up in the final cut. For example, I saw Cloverfield earlier, and people are up on the roof talking when the first hint of trouble surfaces. But in the trailer, they’re all downstairs in the party.&lt;/i&gt;

Completely off topic, but that is not correct. They are downstairs at the party when the first sign of trouble happens. They turn on the TV and see news of a capsized tanker in the harbor which they think may be close enough to see from the roof of the building. So they all head up their just in time for the fun and destruction to begin.

But the overall point remains the same. Trailers aren&#039;t necessarily comprised of film that actually ends up in the movie (for one, trailers are frequently made before all of the editing is done). This is even more true of teasers where what you see is rarely actually in the movie. Sometimes teasers are created before or while principal photography is still ongoing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Scenes in trailers don’t always show up in the final cut. For example, I saw Cloverfield earlier, and people are up on the roof talking when the first hint of trouble surfaces. But in the trailer, they’re all downstairs in the party.</i></p>
<p>Completely off topic, but that is not correct. They are downstairs at the party when the first sign of trouble happens. They turn on the TV and see news of a capsized tanker in the harbor which they think may be close enough to see from the roof of the building. So they all head up their just in time for the fun and destruction to begin.</p>
<p>But the overall point remains the same. Trailers aren&#8217;t necessarily comprised of film that actually ends up in the movie (for one, trailers are frequently made before all of the editing is done). This is even more true of teasers where what you see is rarely actually in the movie. Sometimes teasers are created before or while principal photography is still ongoing.</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet_Desperation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiet_Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>--- &lt;i&gt;Consumers of fiction have a right to expect internal consistency even across a large body of connected fiction. &lt;/i&gt;

Really? Which Amendment is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212; <i>Consumers of fiction have a right to expect internal consistency even across a large body of connected fiction. </i></p>
<p>Really? Which Amendment is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never liked the habitable planets of stars which can&#039;t have them, but think about this for a minute:  The galaxy is eleven billion years old.  If intelligence can arise in a planet four billion years old, there could have been intelligent species in the galaxy for the last seven billion years, and their mean age might be 3.5 billion years.

So can we treat civilizations like that as being just exotic foreign countries, that we can have trade, wars, espionage with?  Doesn&#039;t seem likely to me.

Then there&#039;s the idea of eating alien food (billions of years of separate evolution on separate planets), and worse, interbreeding with aliens.  Spock is half human, half Vulcan.  Apparently Vulcans and humans have the same chromosome number, both use DNA and have the same genetic code, etc., etc.  Guys, we can&#039;t even interbreed with chimpanzees, and we have 95% the same genes.

So, look not for science in Star Trek.  Just turn your mind off and have a good time.  I speak as a former Trekkie who still treasures his George Takei autograph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never liked the habitable planets of stars which can&#8217;t have them, but think about this for a minute:  The galaxy is eleven billion years old.  If intelligence can arise in a planet four billion years old, there could have been intelligent species in the galaxy for the last seven billion years, and their mean age might be 3.5 billion years.</p>
<p>So can we treat civilizations like that as being just exotic foreign countries, that we can have trade, wars, espionage with?  Doesn&#8217;t seem likely to me.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the idea of eating alien food (billions of years of separate evolution on separate planets), and worse, interbreeding with aliens.  Spock is half human, half Vulcan.  Apparently Vulcans and humans have the same chromosome number, both use DNA and have the same genetic code, etc., etc.  Guys, we can&#8217;t even interbreed with chimpanzees, and we have 95% the same genes.</p>
<p>So, look not for science in Star Trek.  Just turn your mind off and have a good time.  I speak as a former Trekkie who still treasures his George Takei autograph.</p>
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		<title>By: Rav Winston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rav Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, it was years ago in the early seventies. When they were coming out with all those (by now) ancient manuals and tech books. I do recall that the core members of the Federation were the Terrans, Tellarites, Andorians, and Vulcans. And it stated clearly that the Andorians were the first people that the humans met. I wish now (over thirty years later) I could point you to a specific text.

I think it may have been in the Starfleet Medical text. But it&#039;s been so long, now.

I really haven&#039;t had so much interest in Trek since the original series and its first three movies. And a couple of seasons (probably three through five) of TNG. So I haven&#039;t really kept up much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, it was years ago in the early seventies. When they were coming out with all those (by now) ancient manuals and tech books. I do recall that the core members of the Federation were the Terrans, Tellarites, Andorians, and Vulcans. And it stated clearly that the Andorians were the first people that the humans met. I wish now (over thirty years later) I could point you to a specific text.</p>
<p>I think it may have been in the Starfleet Medical text. But it&#8217;s been so long, now.</p>
<p>I really haven&#8217;t had so much interest in Trek since the original series and its first three movies. And a couple of seasons (probably three through five) of TNG. So I haven&#8217;t really kept up much.</p>
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		<title>By: M.J. Barlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.J. Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be of interest: it&#039;s the proposed &#039;re-boot&#039; of Trek J.M.Straczynski put forward a few years ago:
http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/files/ST2004Reboot.pdf

Hmmm, a mission to discover ancient races amongst the stars? Where have I heard that before?


BTW, Rav, where was it stated that Andorians were the first aliens humanity met? I&#039;ve never heard that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be of interest: it&#8217;s the proposed &#8216;re-boot&#8217; of Trek J.M.Straczynski put forward a few years ago:<br />
<a href="http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/files/ST2004Reboot.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/files/ST2004Reboot.pdf</a></p>
<p>Hmmm, a mission to discover ancient races amongst the stars? Where have I heard that before?</p>
<p>BTW, Rav, where was it stated that Andorians were the first aliens humanity met? I&#8217;ve never heard that one.</p>
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		<title>By: M.J. Barlow</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/18/trek-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-64502</link>
		<dc:creator>M.J. Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be of interest: it&#039;s the proposed &#039;re-boot&#039; of Trek J.M.Straczynski put forward a few years ago:
http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/files/ST2004Reboot.pdf

Hmmm, a mission to discover ancient races amongst the stars? Where have I heard that before?


BTW, Rav, where was it stated that Andorians were the first aliens humanity met? I&#039;ve never heard that before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be of interest: it&#8217;s the proposed &#8216;re-boot&#8217; of Trek J.M.Straczynski put forward a few years ago:<br />
<a href="http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/files/ST2004Reboot.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/files/ST2004Reboot.pdf</a></p>
<p>Hmmm, a mission to discover ancient races amongst the stars? Where have I heard that before?</p>
<p>BTW, Rav, where was it stated that Andorians were the first aliens humanity met? I&#8217;ve never heard that before.</p>
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		<title>By: JediBear</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/18/trek-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-64501</link>
		<dc:creator>JediBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One word: meh.

The Star Trek franchise is entirely creatively bankrupt at this point. I don&#039;t care to see another single product associated with it. Ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One word: meh.</p>
<p>The Star Trek franchise is entirely creatively bankrupt at this point. I don&#8217;t care to see another single product associated with it. Ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakhen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/18/trek-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-64500</link>
		<dc:creator>Drakhen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A re-envisioning....now that would be fracking sweet.  And isn&#039;t BSG winding up?  They could take it and make it what ST:Enterprise SHOULD have been (minus all the stupid time travel crap).  Ah well not likely, but it doesn&#039;t hurt to dream does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A re-envisioning&#8230;.now that would be fracking sweet.  And isn&#8217;t BSG winding up?  They could take it and make it what ST:Enterprise SHOULD have been (minus all the stupid time travel crap).  Ah well not likely, but it doesn&#8217;t hurt to dream does it?</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/18/trek-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-64499</link>
		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>--- &lt;i&gt;And why is their lettering on the hull before major fabrication has been completed? &lt;/i&gt;

So you got a degree in starship construction, buddy? Who says they can&#039;t paint the panels before assembly? Huh? Huh? Seem to me it would even be easier that way.

[petergriffin]Yeeeeah.[/petergriffin]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212; <i>And why is their lettering on the hull before major fabrication has been completed? </i></p>
<p>So you got a degree in starship construction, buddy? Who says they can&#8217;t paint the panels before assembly? Huh? Huh? Seem to me it would even be easier that way.</p>
<p>[petergriffin]Yeeeeah.[/petergriffin]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Lonergan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/18/trek-teaser/comment-page-1/#comment-64498</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Lonergan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 04:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wut?  This ISN&#039;T a historical document?  Where have I been!

Relax everybody.... it IS just a movie.  I&#039;ll go see it.  It can&#039;t be any worse than the Next Generation crap, can it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wut?  This ISN&#8217;T a historical document?  Where have I been!</p>
<p>Relax everybody&#8230;. it IS just a movie.  I&#8217;ll go see it.  It can&#8217;t be any worse than the Next Generation crap, can it?</p>
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