Comments on: Oberg lays the smack on Hoagland http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/ I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog. Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:57:22 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Zak http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/comment-page-1/#comment-223115 Zak Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:08:32 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/#comment-223115 Why do you care, Phil? Heck, my whole freshman astronomy class could care less about science. Especially the nonsense astrophysicists pump out every year. Why do you care, Phil? Heck, my whole freshman astronomy class could care less about science. Especially the nonsense astrophysicists pump out every year.

]]> By: Brian http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/comment-page-1/#comment-201753 Brian Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:33:56 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/#comment-201753 Yea, lets focus on Hoagland and forget about all the CIA, Astronauts, Military intelligences, Physicists, Rocket Scientists, Archeologist's, Governors, Generals, and the Billion other perfectly competent and credible sources that are trying to come forward with the information being kept from the public. I am sure that anyone who has spent 40 years in the military would gladly become the family punch line and a disgrace to the country for a few bucks. Or anyone that went to school to become a Physicist or rocket engineer for most their life would give all that up, just to sell a book. So lets look at Hoagland, because he is the one we entrusted our country in for the last 50 years, right. Real Smart people. Ever heard of the term, Fall Guy? You talk about his credentials, well check the list of peoples credentials in the national press clubs UFO disclosure. Looks to me like there exists no credential sufficient for this topic unless your god. In other words, why bring up credentials when you wouldn't believe even the most qualified? Grabbing Straws if you ask me. Yea, lets focus on Hoagland and forget about all the CIA, Astronauts, Military intelligences, Physicists, Rocket Scientists, Archeologist’s, Governors, Generals, and the Billion other perfectly competent and credible sources that are trying to come forward with the information being kept from the public.

I am sure that anyone who has spent 40 years in the military would gladly become the family punch line and a disgrace to the country for a few bucks. Or anyone that went to school to become a Physicist or rocket engineer for most their life would give all that up, just to sell a book.

So lets look at Hoagland, because he is the one we entrusted our country in for the last 50 years, right.

Real Smart people.

Ever heard of the term, Fall Guy?

You talk about his credentials, well check the list of peoples credentials in the national press clubs UFO disclosure.

Looks to me like there exists no credential sufficient for this topic unless your god.

In other words, why bring up credentials when you wouldn’t believe even the most qualified? Grabbing Straws if you ask me.

]]> By: leroy jenkem http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/comment-page-1/#comment-64921 leroy jenkem Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:14:05 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/#comment-64921 if one inhales enough jenkem, you will believe anything.... excusses meeee, i going to take a hit....got some pepper burger jenkem brewing now.... if one inhales enough jenkem, you will believe anything….

excusses meeee, i going to take a hit….got some pepper burger jenkem brewing now….

]]> By: richard c. hoagland | Info trend it http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/comment-page-1/#comment-64920 richard c. hoagland | Info trend it Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:40:54 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/#comment-64920 [...] Oberg lays the smack on Hoagland [...] [...] Oberg lays the smack on Hoagland [...]

]]> By: Yael Dragwyla http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/comment-page-1/#comment-64919 Yael Dragwyla Thu, 24 Jan 2008 07:16:49 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/#comment-64919 I'm glad to see people ripping into Hoagland the way that idiot deserves. As evidenced by the nonsense in the article referenced and criticized on http://btripp.livejournal.com/824416.html, and exemplified in http://www.enterprisemission.com/sensor.htm (there's plenty more where that last came from, but we all know about Hoagland and his Enterprise Mission site), Hoagland is long overdue for a nice tar-and-feather party ending in the 12:15 rail out of town, or at least the strictly social analog thereof. Good for you, Phil! We're very fortunate to have you to catch the fraudulent and lunatic touting the sort of [expletive deleted] for which Hoagland is famous. Go get 'em! I’m glad to see people ripping into Hoagland the way that idiot deserves. As evidenced by the nonsense in the article referenced and criticized on http://btripp.livejournal.com/824416.html, and exemplified in http://www.enterprisemission.com/sensor.htm (there’s plenty more where that last came from, but we all know about Hoagland and his Enterprise Mission site), Hoagland is long overdue for a nice tar-and-feather party ending in the 12:15 rail out of town, or at least the strictly social analog thereof. Good for you, Phil! We’re very fortunate to have you to catch the fraudulent and lunatic touting the sort of [expletive deleted] for which Hoagland is famous. Go get ‘em!

]]> By: Quiet_Desperation http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/comment-page-1/#comment-64918 Quiet_Desperation Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:08:07 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/#comment-64918 <i>My dad, who owns a great amature telescope and read astronomy books out of interest, was sucked in by that stupid television show that showed the “evidence” of a moon landing hoax.</i> At least that's easy to debunk. My dad is all atwitter about the mythical NAFTA Superhighway, which, depending on the source, can be anything from 2000 feet to 870 miles wide; will extend from Mexico to Canada, or pole to pole and will displace anywhere betwwen several thousand homeowners or some number greater than the entire population of the United States. The problem is that there *is* a controversial project (or collection of projects) called the Trans Texas Corridor which is completely different, but it muddies up the debunking. It doesn;t help that some politicians have applied the "NAFTA Superhighway" label to it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_texas_corridor And a good article overview http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070827/hayes My dad, who owns a great amature telescope and read astronomy books out of interest, was sucked in by that stupid television show that showed the “evidence” of a moon landing hoax.

At least that’s easy to debunk. My dad is all atwitter about the mythical NAFTA Superhighway, which, depending on the source, can be anything from 2000 feet to 870 miles wide; will extend from Mexico to Canada, or pole to pole and will displace anywhere betwwen several thousand homeowners or some number greater than the entire population of the United States.

The problem is that there *is* a controversial project (or collection of projects) called the Trans Texas Corridor which is completely different, but it muddies up the debunking. It doesn;t help that some politicians have applied the “NAFTA Superhighway” label to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_texas_corridor

And a good article overview

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070827/hayes

]]> By: hdhondt http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/comment-page-1/#comment-64917 hdhondt Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:11:57 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/21/oberg-lays-the-smack-on-hoagland/#comment-64917 Anyone interested in moon hoaxes should see the movie "Dark Side of the Moon", made by William Karel (original title "Opération Lune"). It's an absolutely brilliant spoof, and utterly hilarious. When I saw it, for the first 15 minutes it seemed reasonable, what with a paranoid Richard Nixon trying to come up with a plan B in case the moon shot fizzed. After that it just became weirder and weirder. It includes Buzz Aldrin, Henry Kissinger, Alexander Haig, Donald Rumsfeld and others playing themselves in fake inteviews. Interestingly, while I was laughing most of the way through it, some people apparently considered it a real documentary. Anyone interested in moon hoaxes should see the movie “Dark Side of the Moon”, made by William Karel (original title “Opération Lune”). It’s an absolutely brilliant spoof, and utterly hilarious. When I saw it, for the first 15 minutes it seemed reasonable, what with a paranoid Richard Nixon trying to come up with a plan B in case the moon shot fizzed. After that it just became weirder and weirder. It includes Buzz Aldrin, Henry Kissinger, Alexander Haig, Donald Rumsfeld and others playing themselves in fake inteviews.

Interestingly, while I was laughing most of the way through it, some people apparently considered it a real documentary.

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