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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: laffing</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/30/another-psychic-exposed/comment-page-2/#comment-379438</link>
		<dc:creator>laffing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 01:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is an old post, but I just have to add, that during the Miss Cleo days, radio comics Bob and Tom said, &quot;If someone thinks that Miss Cleo is really psychic, it isn&#039;t Miss Cleo&#039;s fault.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is an old post, but I just have to add, that during the Miss Cleo days, radio comics Bob and Tom said, &#8220;If someone thinks that Miss Cleo is really psychic, it isn&#8217;t Miss Cleo&#8217;s fault.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: the dog sniffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>the dog sniffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 01:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was ripped off by the fake psychic Laura Bushnell.  Her con story is that she has the breast milk of the Virgin Mary.  yeah, right,
and Bushnell says that she has a piece of the cross that jesus was crucified on. 
yeah, right.

I thought she had mental problems, as in Laura is insane, to lie purposely to others in order to take thier money.

Someone needs to do something about her lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was ripped off by the fake psychic Laura Bushnell.  Her con story is that she has the breast milk of the Virgin Mary.  yeah, right,<br />
and Bushnell says that she has a piece of the cross that jesus was crucified on.<br />
yeah, right.</p>
<p>I thought she had mental problems, as in Laura is insane, to lie purposely to others in order to take thier money.</p>
<p>Someone needs to do something about her lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Em</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/30/another-psychic-exposed/comment-page-2/#comment-67228</link>
		<dc:creator>Em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing spiritual about it. All it takes are good observational skills, good listening skills, good communication skills, intuition,
  ~ quoted, in part, by Michael Lonergan 30 january 2008 ~


If you stand before a glass window, a chicken wire fence,  and individual panels each of tulle, lace, silk, polyester, cotton , wool and brick, will you not have visibility of the images and scenes going on behind them ranging from 100% to 0% ? Imagine the human body being made of these materials   wrapping around your soul, the core of who and what you are. There is nothing spiritual about being able to view the contents of a person&#039;s soul, or the experiential memories housed therein.  The more transparent the wrap, the more one is able to see.Heightened intuition makes for heightened skills of observation, listening and communication. However, if a person is on the phone, or in front of a computer speaking in real time, what are they observing; the screensaver on the monitor ; the cat sleeping in a basket? The same sense that tells you to drive an alternate route home, only to find out later there was an accident stopping traffic on your regular route, is the same  sense that a person  uses to discern the events surrounding an individual. The more practiced you are at using that sense , the more personally detailed the scenes and images become.Our bodies are surrounded by an electromagnetic field, proven by science. Scenes and images get trapped onto that field like a photograph on film. The person with heightened intuitive acuity can tap into that field and thus &quot;see&quot; the life of that individual , much like looking through a photo album. The better practiced you are, the sharper the photographs. It&#039;s simple and anyone can do this. You don&#039;t need to be special. You can be the stupidest of people and still practice using the circuits in your brain which allow for this sense to work as efficiently as sight, smell, touch or hearing. Some people are better at it than others, just like some doctors are better than others, or some carpenters are better than others. Just because you can do it a little doesn&#039;t make you a master at it, but the sense is just as valid as our other senses. You will find frauds and counterfeiters in every occupation. One corrupt doctor does not make all doctors corrupt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing spiritual about it. All it takes are good observational skills, good listening skills, good communication skills, intuition,<br />
  ~ quoted, in part, by Michael Lonergan 30 january 2008 ~</p>
<p>If you stand before a glass window, a chicken wire fence,  and individual panels each of tulle, lace, silk, polyester, cotton , wool and brick, will you not have visibility of the images and scenes going on behind them ranging from 100% to 0% ? Imagine the human body being made of these materials   wrapping around your soul, the core of who and what you are. There is nothing spiritual about being able to view the contents of a person&#8217;s soul, or the experiential memories housed therein.  The more transparent the wrap, the more one is able to see.Heightened intuition makes for heightened skills of observation, listening and communication. However, if a person is on the phone, or in front of a computer speaking in real time, what are they observing; the screensaver on the monitor ; the cat sleeping in a basket? The same sense that tells you to drive an alternate route home, only to find out later there was an accident stopping traffic on your regular route, is the same  sense that a person  uses to discern the events surrounding an individual. The more practiced you are at using that sense , the more personally detailed the scenes and images become.Our bodies are surrounded by an electromagnetic field, proven by science. Scenes and images get trapped onto that field like a photograph on film. The person with heightened intuitive acuity can tap into that field and thus &#8220;see&#8221; the life of that individual , much like looking through a photo album. The better practiced you are, the sharper the photographs. It&#8217;s simple and anyone can do this. You don&#8217;t need to be special. You can be the stupidest of people and still practice using the circuits in your brain which allow for this sense to work as efficiently as sight, smell, touch or hearing. Some people are better at it than others, just like some doctors are better than others, or some carpenters are better than others. Just because you can do it a little doesn&#8217;t make you a master at it, but the sense is just as valid as our other senses. You will find frauds and counterfeiters in every occupation. One corrupt doctor does not make all doctors corrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete from Australia</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/01/30/another-psychic-exposed/comment-page-2/#comment-67176</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete from Australia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t take much heart from that Today Tonight story.

Both TT (and its timeslot competitor on Australian free-to-air television, A Current Affair) specialise in the &quot;miracle cure&quot;/&quot;fraud exposure&quot; circle of life.

Here&#039;s how it usually works: They&#039;ll produce a &quot;miracle cure&quot; story introducing the scam, milk it for how it&#039;s helped some &quot;battlers&quot; (poor people) for about a week. 6-24 months later, they&#039;ll run a &quot;fraud exposure&quot; story, then milk it for another week with how it&#039;s harmed those &quot;battlers&quot;. In the 6-24 months since, the goldfish memory viewers forget entirely that the tabloid news programs promoted it in the first place.

After exposing this psychic &quot;fraud&quot;, they&#039;ll happily promote the next John Edward style con artist without any sense of shame whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t take much heart from that Today Tonight story.</p>
<p>Both TT (and its timeslot competitor on Australian free-to-air television, A Current Affair) specialise in the &#8220;miracle cure&#8221;/&#8221;fraud exposure&#8221; circle of life.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how it usually works: They&#8217;ll produce a &#8220;miracle cure&#8221; story introducing the scam, milk it for how it&#8217;s helped some &#8220;battlers&#8221; (poor people) for about a week. 6-24 months later, they&#8217;ll run a &#8220;fraud exposure&#8221; story, then milk it for another week with how it&#8217;s harmed those &#8220;battlers&#8221;. In the 6-24 months since, the goldfish memory viewers forget entirely that the tabloid news programs promoted it in the first place.</p>
<p>After exposing this psychic &#8220;fraud&#8221;, they&#8217;ll happily promote the next John Edward style con artist without any sense of shame whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have known self-proclaimed psychics who would not take money for a reading, and who would tell someone consulting them that they weren&#039;t getting anything if that were the case.  Their idea that they had psychic powers might have been delusional, but they weren&#039;t out to cheat anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have known self-proclaimed psychics who would not take money for a reading, and who would tell someone consulting them that they weren&#8217;t getting anything if that were the case.  Their idea that they had psychic powers might have been delusional, but they weren&#8217;t out to cheat anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;She says she&#039;s interested in people&#039;s fortunes.  We think she&#039;s more interested in &lt;i&gt;taking&lt;/i&gt; people&#039;s fortunes.&quot;

HAHAHA!!! I laughed out loud at that.  One of the best one-liners I&#039;ve ever heard for this kind of nonsense.

Yes, it&#039;s kind of sad that they call her a fake psychic, implying that others out there that aren&#039;t pulling illegal scams are real.  But it &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; gratifying to see an important psychic (yes, I use that term loosely) tell the camera that she&#039;s a fraud.  So much the better if we can get these charlatans to expose one another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She says she&#8217;s interested in people&#8217;s fortunes.  We think she&#8217;s more interested in <i>taking</i> people&#8217;s fortunes.&#8221;</p>
<p>HAHAHA!!! I laughed out loud at that.  One of the best one-liners I&#8217;ve ever heard for this kind of nonsense.</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s kind of sad that they call her a fake psychic, implying that others out there that aren&#8217;t pulling illegal scams are real.  But it <i>was</i> gratifying to see an important psychic (yes, I use that term loosely) tell the camera that she&#8217;s a fraud.  So much the better if we can get these charlatans to expose one another.</p>
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		<title>By: Leart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it rather funny how they keep saying that she&#039;s a &quot;phony&quot; psychic, or not a &quot;real&quot; psychic as if such entities really existed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it rather funny how they keep saying that she&#8217;s a &#8220;phony&#8221; psychic, or not a &#8220;real&#8221; psychic as if such entities really existed!</p>
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		<title>By: COX!</title>
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		<dc:creator>COX!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well and good to sit back and cluck our tongues at these gullible fools, but all said and done, they have a weakness, this is seen and exploited by a predator and they are VICTIMS.

Don&#039;t Blame a rape victim.

Common sense is an oxymoron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well and good to sit back and cluck our tongues at these gullible fools, but all said and done, they have a weakness, this is seen and exploited by a predator and they are VICTIMS.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t Blame a rape victim.</p>
<p>Common sense is an oxymoron.</p>
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		<title>By: taiki</title>
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		<dc:creator>taiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>800 quid is roughly 1600 USD, no 2000.

But still, fleecing is fleecing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>800 quid is roughly 1600 USD, no 2000.</p>
<p>But still, fleecing is fleecing.</p>
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		<title>By: Santiago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Santiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just can&#039;t feel sorry for those people who paid up hundreds of dollars to  that woman. Yes they may feel vulnerable, yes these are skilled con artists, but friggin heck, a 2000 dollar candle? 310,000 dollars to remove a curse? I think, as a society, we need to make fun of people who pay any amount of money to psychics. Psychics (and priests, and conspiracy theorists) exist because there is a market for their wares. You&#039;ll never be rid of them until you starve them out of hapless victims to ensnare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t feel sorry for those people who paid up hundreds of dollars to  that woman. Yes they may feel vulnerable, yes these are skilled con artists, but friggin heck, a 2000 dollar candle? 310,000 dollars to remove a curse? I think, as a society, we need to make fun of people who pay any amount of money to psychics. Psychics (and priests, and conspiracy theorists) exist because there is a market for their wares. You&#8217;ll never be rid of them until you starve them out of hapless victims to ensnare.</p>
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		<title>By: Hazzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hazzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha, that made my day. It&#039;s so great on several levels. You think they are doing good reporting here, and in a way they do :) But then they act like psychics really exist! &quot;Just this one is bad. We, the real ones, are CHOCKED by her behavior.&quot; hahaha, as usual....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha, that made my day. It&#8217;s so great on several levels. You think they are doing good reporting here, and in a way they do <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  But then they act like psychics really exist! &#8220;Just this one is bad. We, the real ones, are CHOCKED by her behavior.&#8221; hahaha, as usual&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: madge</title>
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		<dc:creator>madge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just goes to show that there is a sucker born every minute and two to take him. Both sides , the &quot;psychics&quot; and their prey should be given a short sharp lesson in reality, logic and critical thinking. BA should be compulsory viewing in every school on the planet!
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just goes to show that there is a sucker born every minute and two to take him. Both sides , the &#8220;psychics&#8221; and their prey should be given a short sharp lesson in reality, logic and critical thinking. BA should be compulsory viewing in every school on the planet! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffersonian posts:

[[&lt;i&gt;Logically, if we followed the Venditor philosophy we’d have no churches. And not only are we not allowed to sue them, but they get tax-free status!&lt;/i&gt;]]

Anyone can sue a church, Jeff.  People do that all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffersonian posts:</p>
<p>[[<i>Logically, if we followed the Venditor philosophy we’d have no churches. And not only are we not allowed to sue them, but they get tax-free status!</i>]]</p>
<p>Anyone can sue a church, Jeff.  People do that all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gopher65 writes:

[[&lt;i&gt;That last bit is the key. If they claim they speak the truth but can’t prove it, and the get money for it, they should go to jail, plain and simple.&lt;/i&gt;]]

I hope to Christ you&#039;re never elected to public office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gopher65 writes:</p>
<p>[[<i>That last bit is the key. If they claim they speak the truth but can’t prove it, and the get money for it, they should go to jail, plain and simple.</i>]]</p>
<p>I hope to Christ you&#8217;re never elected to public office.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth (bujin)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gareth (bujin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, people who part with $310,000 to someone who feeds you with a load of gibberish are quite stupid.  But regardless of the gullibility of others, psychics are committing fraud, and should be prosecuted.

I thought about adding &quot;some&quot; before the word &quot;psychics&quot; in that last sentence, but sod it.  Psychics have consistently failed to provide any evidence that what they do is genuine, so as far as I&#039;m concerned, they are all either frauds or delusional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, people who part with $310,000 to someone who feeds you with a load of gibberish are quite stupid.  But regardless of the gullibility of others, psychics are committing fraud, and should be prosecuted.</p>
<p>I thought about adding &#8220;some&#8221; before the word &#8220;psychics&#8221; in that last sentence, but sod it.  Psychics have consistently failed to provide any evidence that what they do is genuine, so as far as I&#8217;m concerned, they are all either frauds or delusional.</p>
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		<title>By: rus</title>
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		<dc:creator>rus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i say, way to go loretta! if you can get rich because people are stupid enough to give you thousands of dollars at a time, more power to you! one lady in the clip even admitted it was her fault for trusting her.

i would go so far as to say that she shouldn&#039;t be legally liable at all. if you&#039;re so mentally undeveloped that you need the government to hold your hand to protect you from people like this, what are you doing with that much money to spend in the first place?


oh, and for those of you who disagree with me:
i&#039;ve recently come across $23,938,400 worth of unclaimed money in zaire. unfortunately, i need $15,000 for legal and processing fees before i can touch it, so if you can front me the $15k i&#039;ll give you 10% of the money after it is released to me. i believe $2.4 million is more than a fair return on your initial investment. all i need is for you to send me the $15k. oh, and your bank account number so that i can deposit the $2.4 mil in there for you.

any takers? anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i say, way to go loretta! if you can get rich because people are stupid enough to give you thousands of dollars at a time, more power to you! one lady in the clip even admitted it was her fault for trusting her.</p>
<p>i would go so far as to say that she shouldn&#8217;t be legally liable at all. if you&#8217;re so mentally undeveloped that you need the government to hold your hand to protect you from people like this, what are you doing with that much money to spend in the first place?</p>
<p>oh, and for those of you who disagree with me:<br />
i&#8217;ve recently come across $23,938,400 worth of unclaimed money in zaire. unfortunately, i need $15,000 for legal and processing fees before i can touch it, so if you can front me the $15k i&#8217;ll give you 10% of the money after it is released to me. i believe $2.4 million is more than a fair return on your initial investment. all i need is for you to send me the $15k. oh, and your bank account number so that i can deposit the $2.4 mil in there for you.</p>
<p>any takers? anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffersonian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffersonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like what several people have said.
We live with &lt;i&gt;Caveat Emptor&lt;/i&gt; in all (I think) first-world economies. Would we even &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt; to live under &lt;i&gt;Caveat Venditor&lt;/i&gt;? I mean, that would lead to some awful situations, right? So, if that&#039;s the case, where DO you draw the line between frowning on scamming the gullible and enjoying an Emptor/Free-market system? Logically, if we followed the Venditor philosophy we&#039;d have no churches. And not only are we not allowed to sue &lt;i&gt;them&lt;/i&gt;, but they get tax-free status! (Regardless of the psychic predictions of the Book of Revelation, promise of an afterlife, etc.). Seems like either a contradiction or that the line&#039;s a bit fuzzy. In the US, local laws traditionally govern this, but, still, where do you draw the line?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what several people have said.<br />
We live with <i>Caveat Emptor</i> in all (I think) first-world economies. Would we even <i>want</i> to live under <i>Caveat Venditor</i>? I mean, that would lead to some awful situations, right? So, if that&#8217;s the case, where DO you draw the line between frowning on scamming the gullible and enjoying an Emptor/Free-market system? Logically, if we followed the Venditor philosophy we&#8217;d have no churches. And not only are we not allowed to sue <i>them</i>, but they get tax-free status! (Regardless of the psychic predictions of the Book of Revelation, promise of an afterlife, etc.). Seems like either a contradiction or that the line&#8217;s a bit fuzzy. In the US, local laws traditionally govern this, but, still, where do you draw the line?</p>
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		<title>By: COX!</title>
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		<dc:creator>COX!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 06:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/agree with comments from people from the merry old land of Oz (such as myself) Today tonight will probably run another story the next night about homeopathy or Detox diets or &#039;Shonky&#039; builders ripping off our fat kids, turning them Lebanese. (Inside joke ^^)

 And of course the &#039;competing&#039; current affair program &quot;a current affair&quot;
is not much better, running stories on UFO&#039;s and faith healers, the lady hosting it (Tracy Grimshaw) you may remember interviewed Our beloved James Randi on the today show when he was in Brisbane (Can&#039;t remember when sorry)

The skeptical climate in Australia I&#039;m Afraid is still fairly Ignorantly tempered. Running of shows such as Medium and Psychic Investigators (put in a educational program Catalyst&#039;s time slot no less. Winning the Australian skeptics bend spoon award) Isn&#039;t exactly promoting rational thought.

But with a rising generation of from what I&#039;ve seen (My age bracket 21 ^^) we may just have a chance.

As mentioned b4, check out The chaser&#039;s war on everything, you wont be sorry (I love you Chas Licciardello)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/agree with comments from people from the merry old land of Oz (such as myself) Today tonight will probably run another story the next night about homeopathy or Detox diets or &#8216;Shonky&#8217; builders ripping off our fat kids, turning them Lebanese. (Inside joke ^^)</p>
<p> And of course the &#8216;competing&#8217; current affair program &#8220;a current affair&#8221;<br />
is not much better, running stories on UFO&#8217;s and faith healers, the lady hosting it (Tracy Grimshaw) you may remember interviewed Our beloved James Randi on the today show when he was in Brisbane (Can&#8217;t remember when sorry)</p>
<p>The skeptical climate in Australia I&#8217;m Afraid is still fairly Ignorantly tempered. Running of shows such as Medium and Psychic Investigators (put in a educational program Catalyst&#8217;s time slot no less. Winning the Australian skeptics bend spoon award) Isn&#8217;t exactly promoting rational thought.</p>
<p>But with a rising generation of from what I&#8217;ve seen (My age bracket 21 ^^) we may just have a chance.</p>
<p>As mentioned b4, check out The chaser&#8217;s war on everything, you wont be sorry (I love you Chas Licciardello)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Lonergan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Lonergan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 06:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JT, I was very active in a charismatic church that believed in &quot;prophetic&quot; gifts.  I was very &quot;gifted&quot; with this.  I had the ability to &quot;read people&#039;s mail&quot; during personal ministry times.  Now that I am out of that, i know exactly what I was doing.  It&#039;s really just mental trickery.  It would take me about 10 minutes to teach anyone here how to effectively do this.  There is nothing spiritual about it.  All it takes are good observational skills, good listening skills, good communication skills, intuition, and in my case, a good knowledge of the bible so you can throw out relevant verses to give it an air of authenticity.  It&#039;s really no different than what these psychics do.  The ironic thing about it was that another church of the same denomination would go to psychic fairs, rent a spot, and set up &quot;God Reading&quot; tables, where people could come for a personal prophetic word.  They didn&#039;t have to pay for it, but the object was to convert them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JT, I was very active in a charismatic church that believed in &#8220;prophetic&#8221; gifts.  I was very &#8220;gifted&#8221; with this.  I had the ability to &#8220;read people&#8217;s mail&#8221; during personal ministry times.  Now that I am out of that, i know exactly what I was doing.  It&#8217;s really just mental trickery.  It would take me about 10 minutes to teach anyone here how to effectively do this.  There is nothing spiritual about it.  All it takes are good observational skills, good listening skills, good communication skills, intuition, and in my case, a good knowledge of the bible so you can throw out relevant verses to give it an air of authenticity.  It&#8217;s really no different than what these psychics do.  The ironic thing about it was that another church of the same denomination would go to psychic fairs, rent a spot, and set up &#8220;God Reading&#8221; tables, where people could come for a personal prophetic word.  They didn&#8217;t have to pay for it, but the object was to convert them.</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I love the connection you made.

&quot;For $40,000 I can psychically remove the curse that&#039;s ruining your life.&quot;

&quot;For $40,000 I can pray to God to make you rich and powerful and get you into heaven.&quot;

They certainly sound the same to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I love the connection you made.</p>
<p>&#8220;For $40,000 I can psychically remove the curse that&#8217;s ruining your life.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;For $40,000 I can pray to God to make you rich and powerful and get you into heaven.&#8221;</p>
<p>They certainly sound the same to me.</p>
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		<title>By: billsmithaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>billsmithaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GaryF:

How&#039;d she get $310,000 from one person?

Easily, I&#039;m sure. Only a True Believer would give her that kind of cash. Once the psychic&#039;s &#039;treatment&#039; starts, confirmation bias would certainly allow the Believer to interpret any positive event in their lives as proof that the &#039;treatment&#039; was working. And with proof like that, they&#039;d simply continue the treatments and continue buying $2,000 candles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GaryF:</p>
<p>How&#8217;d she get $310,000 from one person?</p>
<p>Easily, I&#8217;m sure. Only a True Believer would give her that kind of cash. Once the psychic&#8217;s &#8216;treatment&#8217; starts, confirmation bias would certainly allow the Believer to interpret any positive event in their lives as proof that the &#8216;treatment&#8217; was working. And with proof like that, they&#8217;d simply continue the treatments and continue buying $2,000 candles.</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and I double the motion from Ken.

Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chasers_War_On_Everything for an insight into australian current affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and I double the motion from Ken.</p>
<p>Check out <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chasers_War_On_Everything" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chasers_War_On_Everything</a> for an insight into australian current affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damm straight unthinkableMayhem

Don&#039;t post Today Tonight videos. Sure they are exposing ONE fraudster but that is it. They never address the issue as a whole, they just target some individual, hounding them and making them look like fools.

This isn&#039;t real journalism, hell they&#039;d probably do a pro moon hoax story if it got them the ratings they needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damm straight unthinkableMayhem</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t post Today Tonight videos. Sure they are exposing ONE fraudster but that is it. They never address the issue as a whole, they just target some individual, hounding them and making them look like fools.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t real journalism, hell they&#8217;d probably do a pro moon hoax story if it got them the ratings they needed.</p>
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		<title>By: JB of Brisbane</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB of Brisbane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree with the view that people scammed by &quot;psychics&quot; have only themselves to blame. The same could be said for people who paid too much for a piece of real estate, or bought a clapped-out car for full value. There needs to be some sort of legal redress in these instances, preferably by normal lawful action rather than the litigation route, which often is another example of practitioners getting rich off other people&#039;s misfortune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with the view that people scammed by &#8220;psychics&#8221; have only themselves to blame. The same could be said for people who paid too much for a piece of real estate, or bought a clapped-out car for full value. There needs to be some sort of legal redress in these instances, preferably by normal lawful action rather than the litigation route, which often is another example of practitioners getting rich off other people&#8217;s misfortune.</p>
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		<title>By: Autumn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Autumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just heard that the Montel Williams show is through! This means Sylvia Browne has lost her venue!</description>
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