http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/obamas_plan_for_nasa.html

If Obama gets elected (and that is looking less and less likely as he displays a serious case foot and mouth desease caused by lack of judgement and experience) you Bush haters will get what you deserve. Unfortunately, the rest of us will also get what you deserve.

@Rick James – i’ve read carefully what you’ve said, and here my response – apologies for disagreeing, but i dislike unreasoned and unclear thinking.

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>I think you should actually study the pro’s and cons of evolution before you write an article judging a person’s (in this case, a presidential candidate’s) viewpoint on science.

good advice, can’t argue with that one.

>Almost any chemist or mathematician who has done any research on Darwininan evolution will tell you that it is one of the most pernicious lies of our time.

not true

>Only Biologists and people who refuse to believe in any form of the supernatural (aka GOD) place their faith in evolution.

i doubt theres been any studies done

>Richard Dawkins is a prime example.

uh oh

>He is perhaps the most narcissistic men living today, and he purports that anyone believing in a deity is ignorant and wrong (tell me Mr. Dawkins, how can you honestly disprove GOD?)

You have a right to have an opinion on his character, but its just opinion.

(Dawkins does look for proof – which religion lacks. I’ve read a few of his books, his main beef appears to be with unreasoned beliefs, and blind faith. His attempt to disprove is based on circumstantial evidence, which is good enough for the courts of justice)

>While I realize that evolution is known to be scientific fact, just like the theory of relativity, the fact remains that macroevolution has yet to be PROVEN or observed, and therefore cannot be claimed to be purely factual.

Partial credit.
Evolution is a fact, and has been observed to occur.
Evolution has been proved. Thats why its scientific fact.

(thats pretty much the definition of ‘fact’)

the “Theory of Evolution” is about how that mechanism takes place, and Darwin was a starting point – his work has been built on, honestly – the agrument has evolved since his time.

>So therefore, evolution, like Christianity, is based on faith through scientific study, not unlike Intelligent Design.

No. Faith is not based on scientific study – ask any fundamentalist. Intelligent Design is not based on scientific study – its false science, and has been proven as such.

>Honestly, if one truly studies the chemistry and probability of abiogenesis alone, one cannot honestly believe evolution to be true without the presence of some form of Logos to guide it.

Not true, again – the theory of evoloution is about the mechanism that drives evolution itself – it does not posit about the ultimate origins of life itself.

>Science is merely science.

Religion is merely dogma.

>It cannot explain God, which is why we have philosophy people.

Science does not try to explain god – thats what religion is for, but the scientific method does dismiss god or gods purely because there is no proof, and no way of proving that these deities actually exist.

>Though, modern America fails to teach philosophy, logic, and reason in schools.

which you have proved.. unfortunately

>We’ve abandoned our ability to rationalize, instead placing all of our knowledge in the hands of select individuals (academics, politicians, text books).

you may have – i have not. Why doesn’t your list include the clergy?

>What we should do, is seek out the truth from multiple sources, from all facets.

Yes you should

>Darwinian evolution is highly suspect and very flawed.

No its not, its a reasonable solution to an observed fact.

>Read some books by A.E. Wilder-Smith, Michael Behe, and other chemists and academics who get overshadowed by the cognitive dissonance of popular science.

Thank you, i shall.

>The fact is, evolution simply cannot be disproven or proven, so if someone doesn’t believe in it, then they certainly should not be criticized for that belief.

The fact is… evolution is a fact. You do have the right to hold your beliefs, you also have the right to be criticised – especially if you are speaking in a scientific forum.

>P.S. Clinton will say whatever to get a vote. Since the majority of educated Americans believe in evolution, of course she does…

Democracy, i love it.

Perhaps Hillary beleives in evolution becuse she has studied and accepts the facts, as do the educated majority. Another argument in favour of increased education.

I like Mr. Obama, its because when he discusses politics/issues in interviews, he comes across as serious, intelligent, interested and open to argument. A true statesman.

GWB always looked like he was joking.

P.S. Clinton will say whatever to get a vote. Since the majority of educated Americans believe in evolution, of course she does…

This flexibility is what makes an education more useful than apprenticeship to a trade. Which is really more expensive: a general education, or a shorter specific education, job loss, poverty, retraining?

Although… wait… did you mean that as an insult? In that case, you stink!