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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Clammy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/07/starbucks-mitosis/comment-page-3/#comment-69276</link>
		<dc:creator>Clammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, there may be some homeostasis going on, in addition to the mitosis.  A new Starbucks just opened in my neighborhood a couple weeks ago (this would make 4 in a 5-minute walking radius, in addition to the other (literally!!) two dozen coffee shops in the same area).

And then this happened!

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/02/13/vancouver-blast.html?ref=rss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, there may be some homeostasis going on, in addition to the mitosis.  A new Starbucks just opened in my neighborhood a couple weeks ago (this would make 4 in a 5-minute walking radius, in addition to the other (literally!!) two dozen coffee shops in the same area).</p>
<p>And then this happened!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/02/13/vancouver-blast.html?ref=rss" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/02/13/vancouver-blast.html?ref=rss</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eunomiac</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/07/starbucks-mitosis/comment-page-3/#comment-69275</link>
		<dc:creator>Eunomiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On behalf of all Canadians, may I please invite you into a Tim Horton&#039;s the next time you&#039;re in Canada? They don&#039;t over-roast their beans, and will actually put milk/cream/sugar into your coffee FOR you.

Remember: You&#039;ve always got time for Tim Horton&#039;s.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On behalf of all Canadians, may I please invite you into a Tim Horton&#8217;s the next time you&#8217;re in Canada? They don&#8217;t over-roast their beans, and will actually put milk/cream/sugar into your coffee FOR you.</p>
<p>Remember: You&#8217;ve always got time for Tim Horton&#8217;s.<br />
 <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikel wrote:

&lt;i&gt;Second, businesses can open wherever local governments will allow them to open. Starbucks could not operate in those locations without permission, so you were apologizing for no reason.&lt;/i&gt;

I know nothing of Vancouver or of Starbucks&#039; practice, but one issue is that large corporations can use their muscle to get a favourable deal from local government, which allows them to squeeze competitors on price.  That said, Starbucks don&#039;t strike me as cheap so it doesn&#039;t seem plausible in this case.

I agree with Dunc: we shouldn&#039;t build society and legislate on the basis of theories that assume people take rational decisions as defined by utility theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikel wrote:</p>
<p><i>Second, businesses can open wherever local governments will allow them to open. Starbucks could not operate in those locations without permission, so you were apologizing for no reason.</i></p>
<p>I know nothing of Vancouver or of Starbucks&#8217; practice, but one issue is that large corporations can use their muscle to get a favourable deal from local government, which allows them to squeeze competitors on price.  That said, Starbucks don&#8217;t strike me as cheap so it doesn&#8217;t seem plausible in this case.</p>
<p>I agree with Dunc: we shouldn&#8217;t build society and legislate on the basis of theories that assume people take rational decisions as defined by utility theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly Phil!  Of &lt;i&gt;course&lt;/i&gt; &lt;b&gt;Quiet Desperation&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Evolving Squid&lt;/b&gt; didn&#039;t see the humour.  You should have expected it.  After all, it is impossible for the religious to see the humour in anything that pokes fun of their religion.

And the &quot;The Free Market Solves All Problems&quot; branch of the &quot;Capitalism über Alles!&quot; church is especially humourless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly Phil!  Of <i>course</i> <b>Quiet Desperation</b> and <b>Evolving Squid</b> didn&#8217;t see the humour.  You should have expected it.  After all, it is impossible for the religious to see the humour in anything that pokes fun of their religion.</p>
<p>And the &#8220;The Free Market Solves All Problems&#8221; branch of the &#8220;Capitalism über Alles!&#8221; church is especially humourless.</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/07/starbucks-mitosis/comment-page-3/#comment-69272</link>
		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 07:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, I was MOSTLY kidding about the McDonalds thing way back, in the spirit of the joke this thread originally started with. I thought McD&#039;s was everywhere, but it seems like Starbucks is even moreso, hence the original &quot;Geez, and I thought McDonalds world takeover was bad...&quot; Get it? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha... um... ha. Sigh. OK, this is why I don&#039;t do stand-up comedy.

Anyway, I like JanieBelle&#039;s expansion on why McD&#039;s is bad. (Funny pic!)

Just some random disclaimers and thoughts on a more serious note, though...

I don&#039;t go to places I don&#039;t like, and McD&#039;s happens to be one of them. Hence the &#039;MOSTLY&#039; in my point above.

I do dislike heavy advertising to the point of saturation; the more advertising, the more likely I am to be turned off. You can imagine how effective political campaigns are with me, then. :)

I&#039;d hate to see the free market become monopolistic. Ironic, that... companies outcompete other companies, growing bigger to the point where they can buy out those they don&#039;t outcompete, and eventually, there&#039;s no competition. And thus, no free market. BUT could that really happen in real life? Would that really happen in real life? I mean could it, would it happen that completely? (Side note: I recently heard someone ask why, instead of a free market economy, we don&#039;t have a fair market economy, but I believe it was in reference to health insurance.)

Oh, finally, I don&#039;t drink coffee. Can&#039;t stand it in any form: plain, flavored, whatever. Never have. Yuck.
On behalf of myself, I don&#039;t apologize for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, I was MOSTLY kidding about the McDonalds thing way back, in the spirit of the joke this thread originally started with. I thought McD&#8217;s was everywhere, but it seems like Starbucks is even moreso, hence the original &#8220;Geez, and I thought McDonalds world takeover was bad&#8230;&#8221; Get it? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha&#8230; um&#8230; ha. Sigh. OK, this is why I don&#8217;t do stand-up comedy.</p>
<p>Anyway, I like JanieBelle&#8217;s expansion on why McD&#8217;s is bad. (Funny pic!)</p>
<p>Just some random disclaimers and thoughts on a more serious note, though&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t go to places I don&#8217;t like, and McD&#8217;s happens to be one of them. Hence the &#8216;MOSTLY&#8217; in my point above.</p>
<p>I do dislike heavy advertising to the point of saturation; the more advertising, the more likely I am to be turned off. You can imagine how effective political campaigns are with me, then. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;d hate to see the free market become monopolistic. Ironic, that&#8230; companies outcompete other companies, growing bigger to the point where they can buy out those they don&#8217;t outcompete, and eventually, there&#8217;s no competition. And thus, no free market. BUT could that really happen in real life? Would that really happen in real life? I mean could it, would it happen that completely? (Side note: I recently heard someone ask why, instead of a free market economy, we don&#8217;t have a fair market economy, but I believe it was in reference to health insurance.)</p>
<p>Oh, finally, I don&#8217;t drink coffee. Can&#8217;t stand it in any form: plain, flavored, whatever. Never have. Yuck.<br />
On behalf of myself, I don&#8217;t apologize for that.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J. (the bad biologist)</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/07/starbucks-mitosis/comment-page-3/#comment-69271</link>
		<dc:creator>A.J. (the bad biologist)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Auckland: New Zealand
Near my University there are 6 starbucks. Each one less than 500 feet from another starbucks.
Trust me, it&#039;s not just a canadian thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Auckland: New Zealand<br />
Near my University there are 6 starbucks. Each one less than 500 feet from another starbucks.<br />
Trust me, it&#8217;s not just a canadian thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,

     You found the other end of the universe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9iMgSNrwv4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>     You found the other end of the universe:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9iMgSNrwv4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9iMgSNrwv4</a></p>
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