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		<title>By: Boulder: home of the smarty-pants - The Hoosier Diaspora</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/12/boulder-is-smarter-than-you/comment-page-2/#comment-70069</link>
		<dc:creator>Boulder: home of the smarty-pants - The Hoosier Diaspora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/12/boulder-is-smarter-than-you/comment-page-2/#comment-70068</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barton Paul Levenson said:
&quot;Theft is still theft.&quot;

Well, so it is.  And, if Evolving Squid were advocating breaking into willfuly ignorant people&#039;s homes or mugging them on the street, I would condemn him/her for it.  However, all (s)he is saying is that (s)he has no problem with the wilfully ignorant choosing to spend their money on something that doesn&#039;t work.  And which, by the way, is entirely legal in all of the US states (disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, and I have &lt;i&gt;assumed&lt;/i&gt; that selling this stuff [basically, various forms of woo] is legal).

However, I disagree with E-Squid.  Because it is legal to rip people off in this way (i.e. sell them a service that doesn&#039;t work), it makes it a very easy way to make money.  Because it is an easy buck, it becomes an attractive line of business, which means it will continue to flourish until either (a) practitioners are required to prove efficacy, or (b) the public gets wise.

I think the food and cosmetics industries feed the public enough misinformation without whole industries being founded on nonsense too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barton Paul Levenson said:<br />
&#8220;Theft is still theft.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, so it is.  And, if Evolving Squid were advocating breaking into willfuly ignorant people&#8217;s homes or mugging them on the street, I would condemn him/her for it.  However, all (s)he is saying is that (s)he has no problem with the wilfully ignorant choosing to spend their money on something that doesn&#8217;t work.  And which, by the way, is entirely legal in all of the US states (disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, and I have <i>assumed</i> that selling this stuff [basically, various forms of woo] is legal).</p>
<p>However, I disagree with E-Squid.  Because it is legal to rip people off in this way (i.e. sell them a service that doesn&#8217;t work), it makes it a very easy way to make money.  Because it is an easy buck, it becomes an attractive line of business, which means it will continue to flourish until either (a) practitioners are required to prove efficacy, or (b) the public gets wise.</p>
<p>I think the food and cosmetics industries feed the public enough misinformation without whole industries being founded on nonsense too.</p>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/12/boulder-is-smarter-than-you/comment-page-2/#comment-70067</link>
		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I just didn&#039;t like the assumption that it was okay to rip people off if they were contemptible people.  Theft is still theft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I just didn&#8217;t like the assumption that it was okay to rip people off if they were contemptible people.  Theft is still theft.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Astronomer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/12/boulder-is-smarter-than-you/comment-page-2/#comment-70066</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bad Astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Barton, extrapolating what Squid said to atheists versus the religious is  incredibly intellectually dishonest. It&#039;s all too easy to trot out hundreds (thousands) of examples of dishonest preachers, but that does not make all religion bankrupt. However, since in America it&#039;s a common belief that atheists are immoral, bringing up a few who are decent, honest, good folks disproves that myth.

Imbalanced, but too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Barton, extrapolating what Squid said to atheists versus the religious is  incredibly intellectually dishonest. It&#8217;s all too easy to trot out hundreds (thousands) of examples of dishonest preachers, but that does not make all religion bankrupt. However, since in America it&#8217;s a common belief that atheists are immoral, bringing up a few who are decent, honest, good folks disproves that myth.</p>
<p>Imbalanced, but too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: ccpetersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccpetersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barton,

Please go back and read more carefully what you quoted Squid as saying... and I point out:

&quot;... with people who are WIlLFULLY ignorant....&quot;

What part of that didn&#039;t you understand?  Many of the folks who are being screwed by the mortgage crisis are NOT willfully ignorant of the issues... they are caught in a squeeze not of their own making.

Also,  I see nothing fair or uplifting in YOUR ad hominem against mentally ill or retarded people by equating THEM as &quot;willfully ignorant.&quot;

Wilfully ignorant  means that the person chooses to make an ignorant choice because he or she is simply too lazy to learn. I believe people who make unfounded assumptions about atheists and mentally retarded people and people who are having mortgage problems and then use those assumptions to launch misplaced rejoinders based on a willful misreading of someone&#039;s post would better qualify as &quot;willfully ignorant.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barton,</p>
<p>Please go back and read more carefully what you quoted Squid as saying&#8230; and I point out:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; with people who are WIlLFULLY ignorant&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>What part of that didn&#8217;t you understand?  Many of the folks who are being screwed by the mortgage crisis are NOT willfully ignorant of the issues&#8230; they are caught in a squeeze not of their own making.</p>
<p>Also,  I see nothing fair or uplifting in YOUR ad hominem against mentally ill or retarded people by equating THEM as &#8220;willfully ignorant.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wilfully ignorant  means that the person chooses to make an ignorant choice because he or she is simply too lazy to learn. I believe people who make unfounded assumptions about atheists and mentally retarded people and people who are having mortgage problems and then use those assumptions to launch misplaced rejoinders based on a willful misreading of someone&#8217;s post would better qualify as &#8220;willfully ignorant.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/12/boulder-is-smarter-than-you/comment-page-2/#comment-70064</link>
		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Squid goes on explaining his beliefs about ethics:

[[&lt;i&gt;At the most fundamental level, I have no problem with people who are willfully ignorant being ripped off. I’m not sure that pharmacists should be doing that ripping off, but that willfully ignorant people get ripped off isn’t a problem for me.&lt;/i&gt;]]

Do you by any chance sell balloon mortgages?  What if the person you&#039;re laughing at has a family that depends on his or her income?  Does that matter?

You&#039;re saying &quot;theft is okay if the victim is someone I hold in contempt.&quot;

Is this an example of how atheists are just as moral as Christians?  A point I think you&#039;ve upheld in the past?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Squid goes on explaining his beliefs about ethics:</p>
<p>[[<i>At the most fundamental level, I have no problem with people who are willfully ignorant being ripped off. I’m not sure that pharmacists should be doing that ripping off, but that willfully ignorant people get ripped off isn’t a problem for me.</i>]]</p>
<p>Do you by any chance sell balloon mortgages?  What if the person you&#8217;re laughing at has a family that depends on his or her income?  Does that matter?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re saying &#8220;theft is okay if the victim is someone I hold in contempt.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is this an example of how atheists are just as moral as Christians?  A point I think you&#8217;ve upheld in the past?</p>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/12/boulder-is-smarter-than-you/comment-page-1/#comment-70063</link>
		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evolving Squid writes:

[[&lt;i&gt;Is it really criminal to separate stupid people from their money?&lt;/i&gt;]]

You&#039;re a wonderful human being, Squid.  Why don&#039;t you go down to a local MH/MR facility and con some Down&#039;s Syndrome kids out of their petty cash allowance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evolving Squid writes:</p>
<p>[[<i>Is it really criminal to separate stupid people from their money?</i>]]</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a wonderful human being, Squid.  Why don&#8217;t you go down to a local MH/MR facility and con some Down&#8217;s Syndrome kids out of their petty cash allowance?</p>
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		<title>By: Celtic_Evolution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celtic_Evolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not for nothin... but to answer the question about Little Rock.  It got its name from a small rock formation on the Arkansas river that was used as a navigation marker for early river-goers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not for nothin&#8230; but to answer the question about Little Rock.  It got its name from a small rock formation on the Arkansas river that was used as a navigation marker for early river-goers.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/12/boulder-is-smarter-than-you/comment-page-1/#comment-70061</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shane siad:
&quot;Is there a boulder in Boulder? Same with Little Rock and how could they tell?&quot;

I guess there must be a boulder in Boulder, otherwise it would be a silly name for a place.

Little Rock presents a quandary - either it was named for a little rock (which sounds silly) or it was so named because there is so little rock in the area.  Never having been there, I cannot say which is more likely.

Still, people in glass houses...

The UK has four rivers called &quot;River Avon&quot; - &quot;avon&quot; being a pre-Roman British word for &quot;river&quot;.

I used to drive through the entire length of Pennsylvania on my way to and from work each day - Pennsylvania being a small village on the A46 near the city of Bath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shane siad:<br />
&#8220;Is there a boulder in Boulder? Same with Little Rock and how could they tell?&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess there must be a boulder in Boulder, otherwise it would be a silly name for a place.</p>
<p>Little Rock presents a quandary &#8211; either it was named for a little rock (which sounds silly) or it was so named because there is so little rock in the area.  Never having been there, I cannot say which is more likely.</p>
<p>Still, people in glass houses&#8230;</p>
<p>The UK has four rivers called &#8220;River Avon&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;avon&#8221; being a pre-Roman British word for &#8220;river&#8221;.</p>
<p>I used to drive through the entire length of Pennsylvania on my way to and from work each day &#8211; Pennsylvania being a small village on the A46 near the city of Bath.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/12/boulder-is-smarter-than-you/comment-page-1/#comment-70060</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sergeant Zim said:
&quot;Seeing that list made me wonder, which cities are on the OTHER end of the list?&quot;

I can&#039;t resist this one: Washington, DC.  :wink:

Of course. That&#039;s a no-brainer (terrible pun intended).

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sergeant Zim said:<br />
&#8220;Seeing that list made me wonder, which cities are on the OTHER end of the list?&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t resist this one: Washington, DC.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Of course. That&#8217;s a no-brainer (terrible pun intended).<br />
 <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Inoculated Mind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inoculated Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“When I left Denmark for the U.S., the average I.Q. went up…in BOTH countries!”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You win the thread!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“When I left Denmark for the U.S., the average I.Q. went up…in BOTH countries!”</p></blockquote>
<p>You win the thread!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Fite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Fite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was nice of you to take credit for the intellectual cajones that Boulder is apparently swingin&#039;, BA.

Reminds me of my father-in-law, who is Danish.  His favorite joke (stolen verbatim from Victor Borge) goes thus:

&quot;When I left Denmark for the U.S., the average I.Q. went up...in BOTH countries!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was nice of you to take credit for the intellectual cajones that Boulder is apparently swingin&#8217;, BA.</p>
<p>Reminds me of my father-in-law, who is Danish.  His favorite joke (stolen verbatim from Victor Borge) goes thus:</p>
<p>&#8220;When I left Denmark for the U.S., the average I.Q. went up&#8230;in BOTH countries!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a boulder in Boulder? Same with Little Rock and how could they tell?</description>
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		<title>By: Stan/Tx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan/Tx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear BA,

Boulder is one of many nice places in Colorado. Now that you live there you might consider running for local office. Politics aside, the ones in office right now do not seem to understand the concept of local government.

&quot;Boulder&#039;s elected leaders are expected to decide next week whether to draft and vote on a resolution calling for the impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.&quot; RockyMountainNews.

Regards,
Stan/Tx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear BA,</p>
<p>Boulder is one of many nice places in Colorado. Now that you live there you might consider running for local office. Politics aside, the ones in office right now do not seem to understand the concept of local government.</p>
<p>&#8220;Boulder&#8217;s elected leaders are expected to decide next week whether to draft and vote on a resolution calling for the impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.&#8221; RockyMountainNews.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Stan/Tx</p>
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		<title>By: Evolving Squid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evolving Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:
&lt;i&gt;All “quackery” has been outlawed before.&lt;/i&gt;

This is why I am generally against BANNING things like homeopathy.  If homeopathy is exposed, it will die a natural death.  Banning it will only force it underground.  Better to have it in the open where we can see it, and deal with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:<br />
<i>All “quackery” has been outlawed before.</i></p>
<p>This is why I am generally against BANNING things like homeopathy.  If homeopathy is exposed, it will die a natural death.  Banning it will only force it underground.  Better to have it in the open where we can see it, and deal with it.</p>
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		<title>By: ABR</title>
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		<dc:creator>ABR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the Norlin Library at UC Boulder. Maybe it doesn&#039;t have the biggest and best science section around, but it&#039;s quirky. It was a nice place to spend an afternoon away from the lab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the Norlin Library at UC Boulder. Maybe it doesn&#8217;t have the biggest and best science section around, but it&#8217;s quirky. It was a nice place to spend an afternoon away from the lab.</p>
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		<title>By: cc petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>cc petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nothing pisses off Boulder residents more than mentioning Mork or Jon Benet. You live in Manhattan? How bout I blab about 9-11 for an hour as if nothing else has ever happened there in the last couple centuries?&quot;

Absolutely!  Back when I was still living in Boulder, and I&#039;d travel somewhere else, you could just about win bets as to WHEN (not if) somebody would say, &quot;Boulder?  Wow... you ever see Mork?&quot;

I love that &quot;ultraconservative left&quot; designation... it fits perfectly!

My dad (who was raised in Boulder, too) always describes it as &quot;Hippies with &quot;Baby on Board&quot; signs in their cars.&quot;

It is, however, a great place. Even though I make a great living as a writer, etc., I still find it would be quite expensive to move back into Boulder .. and I say this as a resident of Frost Heaves, MA, where the COL is quite high, too.

Still... I  miss the Colorado winters and the air quality and the quality of light... and the mountains... and the university...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nothing pisses off Boulder residents more than mentioning Mork or Jon Benet. You live in Manhattan? How bout I blab about 9-11 for an hour as if nothing else has ever happened there in the last couple centuries?&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely!  Back when I was still living in Boulder, and I&#8217;d travel somewhere else, you could just about win bets as to WHEN (not if) somebody would say, &#8220;Boulder?  Wow&#8230; you ever see Mork?&#8221;</p>
<p>I love that &#8220;ultraconservative left&#8221; designation&#8230; it fits perfectly!</p>
<p>My dad (who was raised in Boulder, too) always describes it as &#8220;Hippies with &#8220;Baby on Board&#8221; signs in their cars.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is, however, a great place. Even though I make a great living as a writer, etc., I still find it would be quite expensive to move back into Boulder .. and I say this as a resident of Frost Heaves, MA, where the COL is quite high, too.</p>
<p>Still&#8230; I  miss the Colorado winters and the air quality and the quality of light&#8230; and the mountains&#8230; and the university&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boulder&#039;s a great place, no doubt about it.  I wonder if the New Age and anti-science hokum seem to settle on cities with universities -- in the same list is Durham NC (Duke) and Raleigh NC (NC State) and probably should have Chapel Hill NC (UNC) as well -- all very well educated and high-tech cities that are less than 20 miles from one another.  It doesn&#039;t hurt that major tech companies are in between them all in Research Triangle Park, which becomes one of the five largest towns in NC but is something like the 107th at night.  Anyways, the same crystal and herb hucksters along with the alternative biology folks also seem to call the area home.  Far as I am concerned they may as well be dealing tarot cards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boulder&#8217;s a great place, no doubt about it.  I wonder if the New Age and anti-science hokum seem to settle on cities with universities &#8212; in the same list is Durham NC (Duke) and Raleigh NC (NC State) and probably should have Chapel Hill NC (UNC) as well &#8212; all very well educated and high-tech cities that are less than 20 miles from one another.  It doesn&#8217;t hurt that major tech companies are in between them all in Research Triangle Park, which becomes one of the five largest towns in NC but is something like the 107th at night.  Anyways, the same crystal and herb hucksters along with the alternative biology folks also seem to call the area home.  Far as I am concerned they may as well be dealing tarot cards.</p>
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		<title>By: The Inoculated Mind &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Madison is smarter than Boulder!</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Inoculated Mind &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Madison is smarter than Boulder!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Plait over at Bad Astronomy points out that Boulder, CO made Forbes magazine&#8217;s top spot in their America&#8217;s Smartest Cities [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Plait over at Bad Astronomy points out that Boulder, CO made Forbes magazine&#8217;s top spot in their America&#8217;s Smartest Cities [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffersonian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffersonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Heh, ya’ll aren’t smart enough to live where it doesn’t snow&quot;

Snow&#039;s the rarity, not the norm. There have been recent winters where there was none. We&#039;re in the snow-shadow, on the east slope of the Rockies. The snow falls on the west (upslope) side, which is why the big ski areas are on that side, in the other mountain ranges.

I moved to Boulder in &#039;92 for the rock climbing, thinking it was some sort of liberal freedom stronghold. Wrong. Ultra-conservative left. Love it though. Phil, trade one of your books for dinner at the Walnut?

Nothing pisses off Boulder residents more than mentioning Mork or Jon Benet. You live in Manhattan? How bout I blab about 9-11 for an hour as if nothing else has ever happened there in the last couple centuries?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Heh, ya’ll aren’t smart enough to live where it doesn’t snow&#8221;</p>
<p>Snow&#8217;s the rarity, not the norm. There have been recent winters where there was none. We&#8217;re in the snow-shadow, on the east slope of the Rockies. The snow falls on the west (upslope) side, which is why the big ski areas are on that side, in the other mountain ranges.</p>
<p>I moved to Boulder in &#8217;92 for the rock climbing, thinking it was some sort of liberal freedom stronghold. Wrong. Ultra-conservative left. Love it though. Phil, trade one of your books for dinner at the Walnut?</p>
<p>Nothing pisses off Boulder residents more than mentioning Mork or Jon Benet. You live in Manhattan? How bout I blab about 9-11 for an hour as if nothing else has ever happened there in the last couple centuries?</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Quiet_Desperation, the Ramseys got mentioned back in post #5.

As for Mork &amp; Mindy... well, I for one had successfully forgotten about that series after all these years. Now it&#039;s back in my head. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Quiet_Desperation, the Ramseys got mentioned back in post #5.</p>
<p>As for Mork &amp; Mindy&#8230; well, I for one had successfully forgotten about that series after all these years. Now it&#8217;s back in my head. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: ccpetersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccpetersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, homeopathy covers a huge range of products and goods. It&#039;s hard to shove the whole homeopathic baby out with the bathwater.  Certainly there are some really &quot;whack products&quot; that should be sold with a warning that they are quackery... but, also lumped in there are herbal teas and things that have been in use for a long time for a certain number of ailments and upon which some legitimate medicines ARE based.  It&#039;s this vaguery that the quacks take advantage of.  And there are plenty of them in Boulder, California, and (oddly enough) New Mexico.

I remember once getting a flyer under my dorm room door at CU about buying &quot;matched male and female quartz crystals&quot; that, when you put them together in one velvet bag, gave out &quot;vibrations&quot; that would help you study for exams.

Talk about WOO.

Then, one of the Colorado Daily&#039;s cartoonists caught wind of these and came up with a cartoon about &quot;mated male and female quartz suppositories&#039; to be placed you-know-where to help students get the most out of their studying... it was funny as hell, yet darned if some &quot;practitioner&quot; didn&#039;t write in and protest the insult to his &quot;practice.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, homeopathy covers a huge range of products and goods. It&#8217;s hard to shove the whole homeopathic baby out with the bathwater.  Certainly there are some really &#8220;whack products&#8221; that should be sold with a warning that they are quackery&#8230; but, also lumped in there are herbal teas and things that have been in use for a long time for a certain number of ailments and upon which some legitimate medicines ARE based.  It&#8217;s this vaguery that the quacks take advantage of.  And there are plenty of them in Boulder, California, and (oddly enough) New Mexico.</p>
<p>I remember once getting a flyer under my dorm room door at CU about buying &#8220;matched male and female quartz crystals&#8221; that, when you put them together in one velvet bag, gave out &#8220;vibrations&#8221; that would help you study for exams.</p>
<p>Talk about WOO.</p>
<p>Then, one of the Colorado Daily&#8217;s cartoonists caught wind of these and came up with a cartoon about &#8220;mated male and female quartz suppositories&#8217; to be placed you-know-where to help students get the most out of their studying&#8230; it was funny as hell, yet darned if some &#8220;practitioner&#8221; didn&#8217;t write in and protest the insult to his &#8220;practice.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sean hogge</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean hogge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All &quot;quackery&quot; has been outlawed before.  It&#039;s why Galileo was forced to publicly admit his own &quot;flirtation with heresy,&quot; as well as serve a prison sentence (albeit removed to Tuscany).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All &#8220;quackery&#8221; has been outlawed before.  It&#8217;s why Galileo was forced to publicly admit his own &#8220;flirtation with heresy,&#8221; as well as serve a prison sentence (albeit removed to Tuscany).</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t had the pleasure of living in Boulder, but I have friends there, and
it sounds like a nice place.  I&#039;ve lived in Ithaca, though I&#039;d never heard the
&quot;Boulder East&quot; nickname before.

Of course, for small towns I seriously doubt anywhere in the US tops
Los Alamos, NM (which is a city and a county) or perhaps Livermore, CA
for the number of Ph.D.s per capita.  :)   But those are company towns
(LA is, anyway) so they might not count in surveys like this.

And all things considered I&#039;d rather live in a more heterogeneous community
than a company town.  It&#039;s nice to have, you know, book stores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t had the pleasure of living in Boulder, but I have friends there, and<br />
it sounds like a nice place.  I&#8217;ve lived in Ithaca, though I&#8217;d never heard the<br />
&#8220;Boulder East&#8221; nickname before.</p>
<p>Of course, for small towns I seriously doubt anywhere in the US tops<br />
Los Alamos, NM (which is a city and a county) or perhaps Livermore, CA<br />
for the number of Ph.D.s per capita.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />    But those are company towns<br />
(LA is, anyway) so they might not count in surveys like this.</p>
<p>And all things considered I&#8217;d rather live in a more heterogeneous community<br />
than a company town.  It&#8217;s nice to have, you know, book stores.</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet_Desperation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiet_Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>31 responses and no reference to Mork &amp; Mindy or The Stand yet.

I&#039;m disappointed in you all!!!!!

Not even a JonBenét Ramsey quip.

ObSheesh: Sheesh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>31 responses and no reference to Mork &amp; Mindy or The Stand yet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m disappointed in you all!!!!!</p>
<p>Not even a JonBenét Ramsey quip.</p>
<p>ObSheesh: Sheesh!</p>
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