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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: tussock</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/13/astro-round-up-2/comment-page-1/#comment-70320</link>
		<dc:creator>tussock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And having watched the Spitzer thing, it&#039;s

1: appallingly corny
2: product placement over education
3: a very pretty black hole graphic
4: a shockingly bad &quot;fast travel&quot; graphic

5: Bad Astronomy. If it takes full thrust to maintain a 2M orbit (which it did by the graphics displayed, if not the orientation) you ain&#039;t escaping from a lower orbit. Perhaps they used their warp engines a little, like Kirk did that one time, only without saying.

6: Bad Astronomy. Lacking &quot;shields&quot;, that dust in the galactic core is going to explode them, let along worrying about hitting a star.

7: Warp engines? Really? Ew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And having watched the Spitzer thing, it&#8217;s</p>
<p>1: appallingly corny<br />
2: product placement over education<br />
3: a very pretty black hole graphic<br />
4: a shockingly bad &#8220;fast travel&#8221; graphic</p>
<p>5: Bad Astronomy. If it takes full thrust to maintain a 2M orbit (which it did by the graphics displayed, if not the orientation) you ain&#8217;t escaping from a lower orbit. Perhaps they used their warp engines a little, like Kirk did that one time, only without saying.</p>
<p>6: Bad Astronomy. Lacking &#8220;shields&#8221;, that dust in the galactic core is going to explode them, let along worrying about hitting a star.</p>
<p>7: Warp engines? Really? Ew.</p>
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		<title>By: tussock</title>
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		<dc:creator>tussock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Digitalastro: nice one. However, there are standard handwaves for banking and ship sounds in space battles.

They bank to keep the weapons and sensors oriented toward the target they&#039;re following, and to allow simplified mounting of main thrusters. They&#039;re not really banking like that either, the appearance is partly an illusion created by the artistic acceleration of the camera drone.

Sounds are integrated audio warning signals generated within the camera drone, &quot;ship closing, ship passing, weapon discharged&quot; and so on, programed to enhance the viewer&#039;s understanding of the scene and surrounds.


Why, that&#039;s almost good enough for creation science, if I don&#039;t say so myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digitalastro: nice one. However, there are standard handwaves for banking and ship sounds in space battles.</p>
<p>They bank to keep the weapons and sensors oriented toward the target they&#8217;re following, and to allow simplified mounting of main thrusters. They&#8217;re not really banking like that either, the appearance is partly an illusion created by the artistic acceleration of the camera drone.</p>
<p>Sounds are integrated audio warning signals generated within the camera drone, &#8220;ship closing, ship passing, weapon discharged&#8221; and so on, programed to enhance the viewer&#8217;s understanding of the scene and surrounds.</p>
<p>Why, that&#8217;s almost good enough for creation science, if I don&#8217;t say so myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Digitalastro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digitalastro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>** Spaceship Spitzer***

BAD ASTRONOMY ALERT!
1. Spaceships banking in space.
2. Sounds traveling in space.

*sigh*
Even scientist prefer the imaginary physical universe.

GOOD ASTRONOMY ALERT!
1. Everything else in the video</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>** Spaceship Spitzer***</p>
<p>BAD ASTRONOMY ALERT!<br />
1. Spaceships banking in space.<br />
2. Sounds traveling in space.</p>
<p>*sigh*<br />
Even scientist prefer the imaginary physical universe.</p>
<p>GOOD ASTRONOMY ALERT!<br />
1. Everything else in the video</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Usually the designation would be written without a space, so &quot;Tau Boo Ab&quot; rather than &quot;Tau Boo A b&quot; (c.f. &quot;16 Cyg Bb&quot;, &quot;HD 188753Ab&quot;).

On the other hand it seems that in many cases the A is dropped from the planet designation, and then lower case is used to distinguish the planet from the star... not terribly precise, but it&#039;s ok provided the other star doesn&#039;t have planets as well. At present only one known star system presents this problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usually the designation would be written without a space, so &#8220;Tau Boo Ab&#8221; rather than &#8220;Tau Boo A b&#8221; (c.f. &#8220;16 Cyg Bb&#8221;, &#8220;HD 188753Ab&#8221;).</p>
<p>On the other hand it seems that in many cases the A is dropped from the planet designation, and then lower case is used to distinguish the planet from the star&#8230; not terribly precise, but it&#8217;s ok provided the other star doesn&#8217;t have planets as well. At present only one known star system presents this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Do'h again! StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do'h again! StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other small error - Procyon A is, most likely, an F-type sub-giant star beginning to evolve into a red giant rather than a main-sequence F-class dwarf.

Forgot about that for a moment - &amp; it doesn&#039;t make too much difference but still ... mea culpa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other small error &#8211; Procyon A is, most likely, an F-type sub-giant star beginning to evolve into a red giant rather than a main-sequence F-class dwarf.</p>
<p>Forgot about that for a moment &#8211; &amp; it doesn&#8217;t make too much difference but still &#8230; mea culpa.</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, James Kaler&#039;s wonderful stellar astronomy website comes up with the goods again - its my second fave to this one! ;-)

Check out :

http://www.astro.uiuc.edu/~kaler/sow/tauboo.html

The star, Tau Bootis is right next to Arcturus in the sky (there&#039;s aphoto there too) &amp; andy was right, it does also boast a red dwarf companion star circling it from 100-240 AU away. (Pluto is 30 AU for comparison.)

It sounds like a very interesting exoplanet  - except we can never go there!
Why not?
Its Tauboo ... (Taboo geddit?)
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Sorry, couldn&#039;t resist one more bad joke ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, James Kaler&#8217;s wonderful stellar astronomy website comes up with the goods again &#8211; its my second fave to this one! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Check out :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.astro.uiuc.edu/~kaler/sow/tauboo.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.astro.uiuc.edu/~kaler/sow/tauboo.html</a></p>
<p>The star, Tau Bootis is right next to Arcturus in the sky (there&#8217;s aphoto there too) &amp; andy was right, it does also boast a red dwarf companion star circling it from 100-240 AU away. (Pluto is 30 AU for comparison.)</p>
<p>It sounds like a very interesting exoplanet  &#8211; except we can never go there!<br />
Why not?<br />
Its Tauboo &#8230; (Taboo geddit?)<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Sorry, couldn&#8217;t resist one more bad joke ..</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D&#039;oh! T-yyy-ppp-oooosss!! Aaarrrgghhh !

Corrected version since I can&#039;t edit what&#039;s posted above (Dr Phil Plait, sir, please let us edit these! Please!) :

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To clarify - or perhaps further muddify  - hopefully clarify :

Tau Bootis* A is the primary star - an F7 yellow-white dwarf located 49 light years away making it a smidgin larger, hotter, brighter and short-lived than our Sun - although not as much as Procyon the nearest and brightest F dwarf which is an F5 star 11 ly off. It is _this_ star, Tau Bootis or Tau Boo A that we are talking about which is the object whose magnetic field has reversed! (Could also be written using the single Greek letter for Tau, a sort of wobbly small capital T type character, then Boo in English ...)

Tau Bootis B - as andy correctly (I think) points out is ” …a red dwarf star” orbiting further from that main &quot;near-enough-to-Sun-like&quot; star. I
hadn’t heard of that one myself so can’t give details on its exact spectral type or distance from the primary.

However, by my understanding that would make the Hot Jupiter orbiting the F-type star Tau Bootis A b or perhaps Tau Boo Ab …

Hmm .. Reckon it’d be a lot easier if we just named the planet and perhaps even the star properly! (Hint, hint to any IAU members reading this!)

Tau Boo B would work for the red dwarf star - an exoplanets of that would Tau boo B b then Tau Boo Bc , d, e, etc .. up to Tau Boo B s if there’s enough exoplanets found!

Incidentally, any binary star in Bootis has the same ah, … dodgy humour .. potential. For instance, if Arcturus (Alpha Bootis) has a binary partner (which it may or may not do, unsure) the second star would be Alpha Boo B; the famous double star Izar (Epsilon Bootis) is composed of a yellow or orange giant Epsilon Boo A &amp; a blue-white companion star (co-star?) Epsilon Boo B, ad nauseam ..

Hmm .. reminds me of my fave number 80085 - worked well on those old calculators! (Also try 43110 upside down for one in less  questionable taste!) ;-)

Anyway, bad taste jokes &amp; naming pedantry aside, its cool news from a hot object! Thanks.

———

(My info on Tau Boo A comes from a ‘Sky &amp; Telescope’ magazine table (March 1998, “Extrasolar planets”, Page ??,)

PS. I also recomend you try James Kaler&#039;s stars website - may well have a proper amount of good public-level info. I&#039;ll check that out &amp; post shortly -prob&#039;ly.
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* Tau Bootis should really have a couple of those pronunication dots above it but my computer can’t add those here .. Boo is the short abbreivated form of Bootis - indicating the star is in the constellation Bootes which boasts Arcturus as its brightest member.)

Yegods, I&#039;m flipping verbose eh? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8217;oh! T-yyy-ppp-oooosss!! Aaarrrgghhh !</p>
<p>Corrected version since I can&#8217;t edit what&#8217;s posted above (Dr Phil Plait, sir, please let us edit these! Please!) :</p>
<p>************************************</p>
<p>To clarify &#8211; or perhaps further muddify  &#8211; hopefully clarify :</p>
<p>Tau Bootis* A is the primary star &#8211; an F7 yellow-white dwarf located 49 light years away making it a smidgin larger, hotter, brighter and short-lived than our Sun &#8211; although not as much as Procyon the nearest and brightest F dwarf which is an F5 star 11 ly off. It is _this_ star, Tau Bootis or Tau Boo A that we are talking about which is the object whose magnetic field has reversed! (Could also be written using the single Greek letter for Tau, a sort of wobbly small capital T type character, then Boo in English &#8230;)</p>
<p>Tau Bootis B &#8211; as andy correctly (I think) points out is ” …a red dwarf star” orbiting further from that main &#8220;near-enough-to-Sun-like&#8221; star. I<br />
hadn’t heard of that one myself so can’t give details on its exact spectral type or distance from the primary.</p>
<p>However, by my understanding that would make the Hot Jupiter orbiting the F-type star Tau Bootis A b or perhaps Tau Boo Ab …</p>
<p>Hmm .. Reckon it’d be a lot easier if we just named the planet and perhaps even the star properly! (Hint, hint to any IAU members reading this!)</p>
<p>Tau Boo B would work for the red dwarf star &#8211; an exoplanets of that would Tau boo B b then Tau Boo Bc , d, e, etc .. up to Tau Boo B s if there’s enough exoplanets found!</p>
<p>Incidentally, any binary star in Bootis has the same ah, … dodgy humour .. potential. For instance, if Arcturus (Alpha Bootis) has a binary partner (which it may or may not do, unsure) the second star would be Alpha Boo B; the famous double star Izar (Epsilon Bootis) is composed of a yellow or orange giant Epsilon Boo A &amp; a blue-white companion star (co-star?) Epsilon Boo B, ad nauseam ..</p>
<p>Hmm .. reminds me of my fave number 80085 &#8211; worked well on those old calculators! (Also try 43110 upside down for one in less  questionable taste!) <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, bad taste jokes &amp; naming pedantry aside, its cool news from a hot object! Thanks.</p>
<p>———</p>
<p>(My info on Tau Boo A comes from a ‘Sky &amp; Telescope’ magazine table (March 1998, “Extrasolar planets”, Page ??,)</p>
<p>PS. I also recomend you try James Kaler&#8217;s stars website &#8211; may well have a proper amount of good public-level info. I&#8217;ll check that out &amp; post shortly -prob&#8217;ly.<br />
————</p>
<p>* Tau Bootis should really have a couple of those pronunication dots above it but my computer can’t add those here .. Boo is the short abbreivated form of Bootis &#8211; indicating the star is in the constellation Bootes which boasts Arcturus as its brightest member.)</p>
<p>Yegods, I&#8217;m flipping verbose eh? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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