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	<title>Comments on: Blowing up a spy satellite</title>
	<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/19/blowing-up-a-spy-satellite/</link>
	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: farstarz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/19/blowing-up-a-spy-satellite/#comment-71672</link>
		<dc:creator>farstarz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hydrazine in the satellite. Prompted a "Wiki-romp"

Hydrazine is toxic and carcinogenic

Simple small molecule, N2H4, hopefully it will rapidly diffuse @ 100 mi. up.

Made from hypochlorite (bleach) and ammonia, - the mixing of which which we all, except for few, know is a big No-No. Those few,less than brilliant, compulsive cleaners usually end up in ER's throughout the country coughing, short of breath, with watery eyes with rashes and very uncomfortable and possible very ill.

Hydrazine itself as well as methylated hydrazine (unsymmetrical dimethyl hydrazine, monomethyl hydrazine) is/has been used externsively as liquid propellant ("biopropellant) on Apollo moon lander, orbital maneuvering systems on the the Voyagers as well as the Space Shuttle. Packs quite a wallop, I guess, when mixed with an oxidizer.

It was even used on the Messerschmitts in the 1940's where the hydrazine was mixed with methanol as one ingredient called,  "C-Stoff".  This was added to the "high test peroxide" called, believe it or not "T-Stoff", with  "Z-Stoff" as a catalyst  to generate the propulsion.  Acording to Wikipedia, the Germans had to "

	"create a complex testing system ... to make sure that each fuel was put into the correct tanks of the Messerschmitt Me 163, as an improper loading would cause the aircraft to explode."


The oxidized hyrdrazine is used as a "blowing agent"  in many processes, including automobile airbags.

Hydrazine derivitives have been used as medicines to control blood pressure (hydralazine) or to treat TB (iproniazid).  When treating TB with that last agent it was noted that the patients became "inappropriately happy"  ?= , and it was marketed briefly for depression in 1958.

A derivitive is produced naturally by the mushroom "Gyromitra esculenta" which has - to me - the very unconfortable common name of the False Morel. I never eat mushrooms because of the rare but potential risk of poisoning. Previous to my "Wiki-romp", I had thought that morels were distinctive enough in appearance to make an exception, but "False Morels", !?!, no more.


As far as hydrazine's uses in space - which sound quite widespread" there may be good news, as the ESA is working on a "greener" propellant. Until then, we face the prospect of additional hydrazine satellites falling to earth with toxic carcinogenic results, although perhaps a little bit cleaner, and the survivors possibly "inappropriately happy".

farstarz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hydrazine in the satellite. Prompted a &#8220;Wiki-romp&#8221;</p>
<p>Hydrazine is toxic and carcinogenic</p>
<p>Simple small molecule, N2H4, hopefully it will rapidly diffuse @ 100 mi. up.</p>
<p>Made from hypochlorite (bleach) and ammonia, - the mixing of which which we all, except for few, know is a big No-No. Those few,less than brilliant, compulsive cleaners usually end up in ER&#8217;s throughout the country coughing, short of breath, with watery eyes with rashes and very uncomfortable and possible very ill.</p>
<p>Hydrazine itself as well as methylated hydrazine (unsymmetrical dimethyl hydrazine, monomethyl hydrazine) is/has been used externsively as liquid propellant (&#8221;biopropellant) on Apollo moon lander, orbital maneuvering systems on the the Voyagers as well as the Space Shuttle. Packs quite a wallop, I guess, when mixed with an oxidizer.</p>
<p>It was even used on the Messerschmitts in the 1940&#8217;s where the hydrazine was mixed with methanol as one ingredient called,  &#8220;C-Stoff&#8221;.  This was added to the &#8220;high test peroxide&#8221; called, believe it or not &#8220;T-Stoff&#8221;, with  &#8220;Z-Stoff&#8221; as a catalyst  to generate the propulsion.  Acording to Wikipedia, the Germans had to &#8221;</p>
<p>	&#8220;create a complex testing system &#8230; to make sure that each fuel was put into the correct tanks of the Messerschmitt Me 163, as an improper loading would cause the aircraft to explode.&#8221;</p>
<p>The oxidized hyrdrazine is used as a &#8220;blowing agent&#8221;  in many processes, including automobile airbags.</p>
<p>Hydrazine derivitives have been used as medicines to control blood pressure (hydralazine) or to treat TB (iproniazid).  When treating TB with that last agent it was noted that the patients became &#8220;inappropriately happy&#8221;  ?= , and it was marketed briefly for depression in 1958.</p>
<p>A derivitive is produced naturally by the mushroom &#8220;Gyromitra esculenta&#8221; which has - to me - the very unconfortable common name of the False Morel. I never eat mushrooms because of the rare but potential risk of poisoning. Previous to my &#8220;Wiki-romp&#8221;, I had thought that morels were distinctive enough in appearance to make an exception, but &#8220;False Morels&#8221;, !?!, no more.</p>
<p>As far as hydrazine&#8217;s uses in space - which sound quite widespread&#8221; there may be good news, as the ESA is working on a &#8220;greener&#8221; propellant. Until then, we face the prospect of additional hydrazine satellites falling to earth with toxic carcinogenic results, although perhaps a little bit cleaner, and the survivors possibly &#8220;inappropriately happy&#8221;.</p>
<p>farstarz</p>
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		<title>By: r2d2</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/19/blowing-up-a-spy-satellite/#comment-71671</link>
		<dc:creator>r2d2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/19/blowing-up-a-spy-satellite/#comment-71671</guid>
		<description>I am speaking with authority.....The Missile Defense Agency (MDA), which developed the SM3, although the US Navy is the shooter, wanted to use this "falling satellite" as a "target of opportunity" for future modifications of the SM3.  (As the SM3 is constantly developed, it will allow it to shoot farther into space and be able to be a much better Missile Defense weapon able to shoot at more points in an inbound ICBMs flight)  MDA is also constantly fighting with the US Congress over its budget, which has been cut in recent years.  The more successful tests, shoot downs, the more money it receives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am speaking with authority&#8230;..The Missile Defense Agency (MDA), which developed the SM3, although the US Navy is the shooter, wanted to use this &#8220;falling satellite&#8221; as a &#8220;target of opportunity&#8221; for future modifications of the SM3.  (As the SM3 is constantly developed, it will allow it to shoot farther into space and be able to be a much better Missile Defense weapon able to shoot at more points in an inbound ICBMs flight)  MDA is also constantly fighting with the US Congress over its budget, which has been cut in recent years.  The more successful tests, shoot downs, the more money it receives.</p>
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		<title>By: quasidog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/19/blowing-up-a-spy-satellite/#comment-71670</link>
		<dc:creator>quasidog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/19/blowing-up-a-spy-satellite/#comment-71670</guid>
		<description>Good guys? Bad Guys?  Please stop using those sorts of terms as it undermines your credibility.

Besides that, a very informative post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good guys? Bad Guys?  Please stop using those sorts of terms as it undermines your credibility.</p>
<p>Besides that, a very informative post.</p>
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		<title>By: mr pork</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/19/blowing-up-a-spy-satellite/#comment-71669</link>
		<dc:creator>mr pork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/19/blowing-up-a-spy-satellite/#comment-71669</guid>
		<description>or more like minime whahahahahha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or more like minime whahahahahha</p>
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		<title>By: mr pork</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/19/blowing-up-a-spy-satellite/#comment-71668</link>
		<dc:creator>mr pork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/19/blowing-up-a-spy-satellite/#comment-71668</guid>
		<description>dr.evil=bad astronomer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dr.evil=bad astronomer</p>
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		<title>By: mr pork</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/19/blowing-up-a-spy-satellite/#comment-71667</link>
		<dc:creator>mr pork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/19/blowing-up-a-spy-satellite/#comment-71667</guid>
		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4W0t_fWJoE&#38;feature=related
spekin of evil</description>
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spekin of evil</p>
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		<title>By: Pocket Brain</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/19/blowing-up-a-spy-satellite/#comment-71665</link>
		<dc:creator>Pocket Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 06:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/19/blowing-up-a-spy-satellite/#comment-71665</guid>
		<description>TRIVIA: The Satellite, shaped like Patrick Star, is actually manufactured by the same company that made Dr. Evil's "Big Boy" escape capsule!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TRIVIA: The Satellite, shaped like Patrick Star, is actually manufactured by the same company that made Dr. Evil&#8217;s &#8220;Big Boy&#8221; escape capsule!</p>
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