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	<title>Comments on: BREAKING: SpySat successfully hit by missile</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Acomplia</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/20/breaking-spysat-successfully-hit-by-missile/comment-page-2/#comment-111887</link>
		<dc:creator>Acomplia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely post. Please add my email address to your list and email me the updates if possible. I always like to read your blog and comment on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely post. Please add my email address to your list and email me the updates if possible. I always like to read your blog and comment on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Karn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/20/breaking-spysat-successfully-hit-by-missile/comment-page-2/#comment-71857</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Karn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A comment about &quot;kinetic kill&quot; satellite weapons. At these velocities relatively little momentum is exchanged. It&#039;s as if each object independently explodes and their debris clouds pass through each other with their centers of mass moving more or less unchanged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A comment about &#8220;kinetic kill&#8221; satellite weapons. At these velocities relatively little momentum is exchanged. It&#8217;s as if each object independently explodes and their debris clouds pass through each other with their centers of mass moving more or less unchanged.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Karn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/20/breaking-spysat-successfully-hit-by-missile/comment-page-2/#comment-71856</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Karn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hydrazine was a red herring. Virtually every spacecraft and rocket ever launched carries some form of it in some amount. A ton seems like a lot, but is it really? The Apollo lunar module had 10+ tonnes of the hypergolic fuels hydrazine (actually Aerozine-50) and nitrogen tetroxide. The Delta II second stage, based on the LM ascent engine, carries about 6 tonnes of the same propellants. The real hypergolic guzzlers were the Titans (a Titan-IVB launched Cassini): 155 tonnes for the first stage and 35 tonnes for the second stage.

These are serious amounts of nasty chemicals for those who work with or near them. Sometimes these rockets do blow up shortly after launch and create a hazard. But the USA-193 tank simply wasn&#039;t a credible threat to anyone on the ground. Spacecraft fuel tanks are thin to save weight, and break apart quickly on re-entry. Hydrazine is flammable (it is a rocket fuel after all) so at most it would have briefly brightened the USA-193 re-entry fireball. BFD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hydrazine was a red herring. Virtually every spacecraft and rocket ever launched carries some form of it in some amount. A ton seems like a lot, but is it really? The Apollo lunar module had 10+ tonnes of the hypergolic fuels hydrazine (actually Aerozine-50) and nitrogen tetroxide. The Delta II second stage, based on the LM ascent engine, carries about 6 tonnes of the same propellants. The real hypergolic guzzlers were the Titans (a Titan-IVB launched Cassini): 155 tonnes for the first stage and 35 tonnes for the second stage.</p>
<p>These are serious amounts of nasty chemicals for those who work with or near them. Sometimes these rockets do blow up shortly after launch and create a hazard. But the USA-193 tank simply wasn&#8217;t a credible threat to anyone on the ground. Spacecraft fuel tanks are thin to save weight, and break apart quickly on re-entry. Hydrazine is flammable (it is a rocket fuel after all) so at most it would have briefly brightened the USA-193 re-entry fireball. BFD.</p>
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		<title>By: Irishman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satellites &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; easier to hit.  You know the path well ahead of time, and there&#039;s plenty of time to prepare.  ICBM&#039;s give little notice and you have to observe them to project where they will be when you want to hit them.

StevoR said:
&gt; Now ok, it was rationalised - not overly convincingly - as a possible threat to people with hydrazine fuel but c’mon, there’s a lot of understandable cynicism about that!

Understandable cynicism.  Maybe multiple reasons for the takedown.  Doesn&#039;t negate the hydrazine risk.

&gt; Wasn’t there a lot of hydrazine or suchlike dangerous chemicals spilt when ‘Columbia’ broke up on re-entry? Seem to recall NASA using that as a warning-off from morbid ghouls picking up pieces of the shuttle debris and seling them on e-bay or whatever ..

Yes, there was some hydrazine on Columbia, and there was concern over contaminated parts.  Not sure, but it sounds like you&#039;re trying to belittle the hydrazine risk by saying Columbia had hydrazine, too.  Couple differences. 1) Columbia had used up most of the hydrazine on board, vs this satellite having full tank. 2) Columbia broke up, dispersing most of the remaining hydrazine, while the satellite was predicted to have tanks survive reentry intact and thus have a large amount concentrated in the strike zone. Also, and this is significant, Columbia was &lt;i&gt;intended&lt;/i&gt; to return intact, so breaking up and spilling hydrazine was not intentional, nor was scattering potentially contaminated parts across Texas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satellites <i>are</i> easier to hit.  You know the path well ahead of time, and there&#8217;s plenty of time to prepare.  ICBM&#8217;s give little notice and you have to observe them to project where they will be when you want to hit them.</p>
<p>StevoR said:<br />
&gt; Now ok, it was rationalised &#8211; not overly convincingly &#8211; as a possible threat to people with hydrazine fuel but c’mon, there’s a lot of understandable cynicism about that!</p>
<p>Understandable cynicism.  Maybe multiple reasons for the takedown.  Doesn&#8217;t negate the hydrazine risk.</p>
<p>&gt; Wasn’t there a lot of hydrazine or suchlike dangerous chemicals spilt when ‘Columbia’ broke up on re-entry? Seem to recall NASA using that as a warning-off from morbid ghouls picking up pieces of the shuttle debris and seling them on e-bay or whatever ..</p>
<p>Yes, there was some hydrazine on Columbia, and there was concern over contaminated parts.  Not sure, but it sounds like you&#8217;re trying to belittle the hydrazine risk by saying Columbia had hydrazine, too.  Couple differences. 1) Columbia had used up most of the hydrazine on board, vs this satellite having full tank. 2) Columbia broke up, dispersing most of the remaining hydrazine, while the satellite was predicted to have tanks survive reentry intact and thus have a large amount concentrated in the strike zone. Also, and this is significant, Columbia was <i>intended</i> to return intact, so breaking up and spilling hydrazine was not intentional, nor was scattering potentially contaminated parts across Texas.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this sort of thing was hard to do and they weren&#039;t having much luck developing antiballistic missiles to intercept ICBMs. Are the computers and tracking better, or are satellites just easy to hit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this sort of thing was hard to do and they weren&#8217;t having much luck developing antiballistic missiles to intercept ICBMs. Are the computers and tracking better, or are satellites just easy to hit?</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D&#039;oh! Frakkin&#039; typos!

&quot;Aren’t there some serious issues here with the international (UN?) law on space -in terms if not militarizing space or using it for aggressive military purposes? &quot;

Should be :

Aren’t there some serious issues here with the international (UN?) law on space - in terms *of*  not militarizing space or using it for aggressive military purposes?

Obviously!
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‘Needless to say’,
 It need not be said
 But so many needlessly say it.
Is this because its not ‘needless to say‘
And that’s why we so often say it?
For if its not needless
Then needs must we say
But if not we needn’t e’er say it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8217;oh! Frakkin&#8217; typos!</p>
<p>&#8220;Aren’t there some serious issues here with the international (UN?) law on space -in terms if not militarizing space or using it for aggressive military purposes? &#8221;</p>
<p>Should be :</p>
<p>Aren’t there some serious issues here with the international (UN?) law on space &#8211; in terms *of*  not militarizing space or using it for aggressive military purposes?</p>
<p>Obviously!<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
‘Needless to say’,<br />
 It need not be said<br />
 But so many needlessly say it.<br />
Is this because its not ‘needless to say‘<br />
And that’s why we so often say it?<br />
For if its not needless<br />
Then needs must we say<br />
But if not we needn’t e’er say it!</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’ve got mixed feelings about this &amp; don’t really know whether to congratulate the folks involved for achieving an impressive technological feat with such good execution and accuracy? Or condemn them for the further militarisation of space and the negative implications this has - diplomatically and for space usage &amp; exploration generally?

Aren&#039;t there some serious issues here  with the international (UN?) law on space -in terms if not militarizing space or using it for aggressive military purposes?

Now ok, it was rationalised  - not overly convincingly - as a possible threat to people with hydrazine fuel but c&#039;mon, there&#039;s a lot of understandable cynicism about that!

Wasn&#039;t there a lot of hydrazine or suchlike dangerous chemicals spilt when &#039;Columbia&#039; broke up on re-entry? Seem to recall NASA using that as a warning-off from morbid ghouls picking up pieces of the shuttle debris and seling them on e-bay or whatever ..

The real reasons being  showing off to China and preventing it falling into non-US military hands strikes me as being much more credible. &amp; just because China does something bad doesn&#039;t mean the USA has to copy them .. &quot;Great Powers&quot; politics is so stupidly &amp; dangerously childish on occassion. :-(

(I blow up a satelite! Hah Hah! Hey! I can blow one up too! Ner,ner! Grow up please &quot;Uncle Sam&quot; and &quot;Chinese Lil&#039; Emperors&quot;!

In fairness, I &#039;spose  all three reasons could be combined to justify destroying Sat. USA-193  but ... hmmn... as I said, mixed feelings &amp; mixed messages there.



I am glad of one thing though - at least unlike in ‘Futurama’ they didn’t miss the real target and blow up Hubble by mistake!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve got mixed feelings about this &amp; don’t really know whether to congratulate the folks involved for achieving an impressive technological feat with such good execution and accuracy? Or condemn them for the further militarisation of space and the negative implications this has &#8211; diplomatically and for space usage &amp; exploration generally?</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t there some serious issues here  with the international (UN?) law on space -in terms if not militarizing space or using it for aggressive military purposes?</p>
<p>Now ok, it was rationalised  &#8211; not overly convincingly &#8211; as a possible threat to people with hydrazine fuel but c&#8217;mon, there&#8217;s a lot of understandable cynicism about that!</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t there a lot of hydrazine or suchlike dangerous chemicals spilt when &#8216;Columbia&#8217; broke up on re-entry? Seem to recall NASA using that as a warning-off from morbid ghouls picking up pieces of the shuttle debris and seling them on e-bay or whatever ..</p>
<p>The real reasons being  showing off to China and preventing it falling into non-US military hands strikes me as being much more credible. &amp; just because China does something bad doesn&#8217;t mean the USA has to copy them .. &#8220;Great Powers&#8221; politics is so stupidly &amp; dangerously childish on occassion. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(I blow up a satelite! Hah Hah! Hey! I can blow one up too! Ner,ner! Grow up please &#8220;Uncle Sam&#8221; and &#8220;Chinese Lil&#8217; Emperors&#8221;!</p>
<p>In fairness, I &#8216;spose  all three reasons could be combined to justify destroying Sat. USA-193  but &#8230; hmmn&#8230; as I said, mixed feelings &amp; mixed messages there.</p>
<p>I am glad of one thing though &#8211; at least unlike in ‘Futurama’ they didn’t miss the real target and blow up Hubble by mistake!</p>
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		<title>By: Tailspin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tailspin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the CNN story says the missile had no warhead.&quot;

Umm, ain&#039;t a kinetic kill vehicle a warhead?

On second thought, maybe not. A bullet is a kinetic kill vehicle, and it isn&#039;t considered a warhead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the CNN story says the missile had no warhead.&#8221;</p>
<p>Umm, ain&#8217;t a kinetic kill vehicle a warhead?</p>
<p>On second thought, maybe not. A bullet is a kinetic kill vehicle, and it isn&#8217;t considered a warhead.</p>
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		<title>By: Yoshi_3up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yoshi_3up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Boom! Headshot&quot;.

I told you so, the odds of missing were nearly nil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Boom! Headshot&#8221;.</p>
<p>I told you so, the odds of missing were nearly nil.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Wood</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/20/breaking-spysat-successfully-hit-by-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-71849</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I noticed CNN put up stock satellite footage rather than a meaningful visual.

Enjoy your blog a lot (I write a vaguely science-themed blog).  Thank you, thank you, thank you for the Heavens Above link!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I noticed CNN put up stock satellite footage rather than a meaningful visual.</p>
<p>Enjoy your blog a lot (I write a vaguely science-themed blog).  Thank you, thank you, thank you for the Heavens Above link!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Wood</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/20/breaking-spysat-successfully-hit-by-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-71848</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I noticed CNN put up stock satellite footage rather than a meaningful visual.

Enjoy your blog a lot (a write a vaguely science-themed blog).  Thank you, thank you, thank you for the Heavens Above link!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I noticed CNN put up stock satellite footage rather than a meaningful visual.</p>
<p>Enjoy your blog a lot (a write a vaguely science-themed blog).  Thank you, thank you, thank you for the Heavens Above link!</p>
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		<title>By: Bynow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bynow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you seen *this* little bit of craziness?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7255657.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen *this* little bit of craziness?</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7255657.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7255657.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/20/breaking-spysat-successfully-hit-by-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-71846</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://gizmodo.com/359031/video-of-spy-satellite-getting-shot-down

Gizmodo has the footage too. :P I prefer them myself, their videos load quicker.</description>
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<p>Gizmodo has the footage too. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  I prefer them myself, their videos load quicker.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Northern BC - saw everything. Right infront of the ecliped moon passed the pieces of exploded satellite. For once living in the frigid pulp-mill city paid its divdends.

It was an awsome show. Awsome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Northern BC &#8211; saw everything. Right infront of the ecliped moon passed the pieces of exploded satellite. For once living in the frigid pulp-mill city paid its divdends.</p>
<p>It was an awsome show. Awsome.</p>
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		<title>By: Joedog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joedog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is some footage from the briefing on CNN
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2008/02/21/pentagon.sat.shoot7a.cnn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is some footage from the briefing on CNN<br />
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2008/02/21/pentagon.sat.shoot7a.cnn" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2008/02/21/pentagon.sat.shoot7a.cnn</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bad Journalists Are Everywhere :) at Gramo`s World</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad Journalists Are Everywhere :) at Gramo`s World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as Bad Astronomy has already noticed, &#8220;this one&#8221; was in fact the Hubble Space Telescope. Not a very bright idea, if you ask [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as Bad Astronomy has already noticed, &#8220;this one&#8221; was in fact the Hubble Space Telescope. Not a very bright idea, if you ask [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fly writes:

[[&lt;i&gt;Of course with a closure of about 30,000mph K=mv2&lt;/i&gt;]]

And Steve H writes:

[[&lt;i&gt;The rest is simple F=MV^2 &lt;/i&gt;]]

Guys, kinetic energy is

Ek = (1/2) m v^2

and force is

f = m a

Here Ek is kinetic energy (in joules in the SI), m is mass (kg), and v velocity (m s^-1).  F is force (newtons), m mass again (kg), and a acceleration (m s^-2).

Check an introductory physics textbook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fly writes:</p>
<p>[[<i>Of course with a closure of about 30,000mph K=mv2</i>]]</p>
<p>And Steve H writes:</p>
<p>[[<i>The rest is simple F=MV^2 </i>]]</p>
<p>Guys, kinetic energy is</p>
<p>Ek = (1/2) m v^2</p>
<p>and force is</p>
<p>f = m a</p>
<p>Here Ek is kinetic energy (in joules in the SI), m is mass (kg), and v velocity (m s^-1).  F is force (newtons), m mass again (kg), and a acceleration (m s^-2).</p>
<p>Check an introductory physics textbook.</p>
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		<title>By: DennyMo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DennyMo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Interestingly, the CNN story says the missile had no warhead. A simple impact is enough to do the deed; at relative velocities of several miles per second a small pebble can do serious damage.&quot;

BA, you sound as if you&#039;re surprised by this fact.  Others have chided you in earlier posts on your use of the phrase &quot;blow up&quot; when referring to this shot.  Yet you used it again in this article?  What&#039;s up with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Interestingly, the CNN story says the missile had no warhead. A simple impact is enough to do the deed; at relative velocities of several miles per second a small pebble can do serious damage.&#8221;</p>
<p>BA, you sound as if you&#8217;re surprised by this fact.  Others have chided you in earlier posts on your use of the phrase &#8220;blow up&#8221; when referring to this shot.  Yet you used it again in this article?  What&#8217;s up with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Fischer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/20/breaking-spysat-successfully-hit-by-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-71840</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Key points from a DoD briefing one hour ago and links to some (unconfirmed) independent reports - and impressive DoD pictures of the operation - are &lt;a href=&quot;http://cosmos4u.blogspot.com/2008/02/details-of-satellite-destruction.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Key points from a DoD briefing one hour ago and links to some (unconfirmed) independent reports &#8211; and impressive DoD pictures of the operation &#8211; are <a href="http://cosmos4u.blogspot.com/2008/02/details-of-satellite-destruction.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: sirjonsnow</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/20/breaking-spysat-successfully-hit-by-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-71839</link>
		<dc:creator>sirjonsnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope whoever got to push the launch button quoted a Bond villain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope whoever got to push the launch button quoted a Bond villain.</p>
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		<title>By: MaDeR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/20/breaking-spysat-successfully-hit-by-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-71838</link>
		<dc:creator>MaDeR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, China should shut up and lay low. Bunch of hipocrites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, China should shut up and lay low. Bunch of hipocrites.</p>
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		<title>By: Podblack</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/20/breaking-spysat-successfully-hit-by-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-71837</link>
		<dc:creator>Podblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://podblack.wordpress.com/2008/02/21/were-on-space-debris-alert/

Breaking news! It&#039;s going to hit Australia!! :D Near my town! Whoo hoo! :)</description>
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<p>Breaking news! It&#8217;s going to hit Australia!! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  Near my town! Whoo hoo! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: We&#8217;re On Space Debris Alert! &#171; PodBlack Blog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/20/breaking-spysat-successfully-hit-by-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-71836</link>
		<dc:creator>We&#8217;re On Space Debris Alert! &#171; PodBlack Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if you want a lovely summary of the spy satellite story - check out Phil Plait&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] if you want a lovely summary of the spy satellite story &#8211; check out Phil Plait&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/20/breaking-spysat-successfully-hit-by-missile/comment-page-1/#comment-71835</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;China expressed concern over &quot;possible harm.&quot;

&quot;China is continuing to closely follow the possible harm caused by the U.S. action to outer space security and relevant countries,&quot; Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said Thursday.&quot;


...Oh you slimy littles... YOU made harm, THEY actually waited for enough decay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;China expressed concern over &#8220;possible harm.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;China is continuing to closely follow the possible harm caused by the U.S. action to outer space security and relevant countries,&#8221; Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said Thursday.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;Oh you slimy littles&#8230; YOU made harm, THEY actually waited for enough decay!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Fane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Fane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesterday on (I think) Reuters&#039; web site that the combined speed was about 22,000 mph.

As for showing an image of the Hubble... wasn&#039;t one of the Keyholes (KH-11) thought to have resembled Hubble? I had heard talk back when Hubble was launched that it was somewhat based on one of these spy sats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday on (I think) Reuters&#8217; web site that the combined speed was about 22,000 mph.</p>
<p>As for showing an image of the Hubble&#8230; wasn&#8217;t one of the Keyholes (KH-11) thought to have resembled Hubble? I had heard talk back when Hubble was launched that it was somewhat based on one of these spy sats.</p>
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